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		<title>By: Esra'a (Bahrain)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2006/09/14/isit-really-islam/#comment-843</link>
		<dc:creator>Esra'a (Bahrain)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim Kong you clearly miss the actual point of the article, which focuses more on terrorism than anything else, but like many other disrespectful Islamophobes, this is to be expected. Good luck with your Muslim bashing, but just know that you&#039;re not doing anyone a favor by being this freakishly shallow.

At the very least most Muslims around the world need to be given credit for consistently having to deal with abusive bigotry and sheer ignorance. It&#039;s seriously a fulltime job, and most of us are simply tired of it.

The idea that many Jews respect Islam is far from false. None of the Jews I know are half as hateful as you come off, and have nothing but respect towards Islam as a religion. If you know Jews that hate Islam, then that&#039;s your personal business that I do not care about.

The fact that you imply (unsuccessfuly, I may add) that I&#039;m trying to give off the impression that somehow Islam is the best religion in the world, you do this merely by assuming and not by actually providing any facts (i.e, quote from my post) that may remotely suggest this, and without exploring any of my other articles where I fight for the right of religious minorities in Muslim countries.

Specifically, this article came at a time where most people were associating Muslims with terrorism, constantly and incorrectly, and failing to realize that violence exists in this world regardless of any religion, and without listening to the millions of Muslim voices that are speaking out actively against terrorism in all its forms. All your other accusations are your own and are not reflected in any way by this article.

The idea that I am biased, that is purely common sense, and anyone suggesting that they are objective and never biased when forming their opinions, are frankly bad liars.

Your ignorance is apparent not because you disagree, but because you resort to a choice of words &quot;like a typical Muslim&quot; as opposed to factually refuting the argument without making disturbing blanket statements that only prove your lack of education and respect for anyone you disagree with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim Kong you clearly miss the actual point of the article, which focuses more on terrorism than anything else, but like many other disrespectful Islamophobes, this is to be expected. Good luck with your Muslim bashing, but just know that you&#8217;re not doing anyone a favor by being this freakishly shallow.</p>
<p>At the very least most Muslims around the world need to be given credit for consistently having to deal with abusive bigotry and sheer ignorance. It&#8217;s seriously a fulltime job, and most of us are simply tired of it.</p>
<p>The idea that many Jews respect Islam is far from false. None of the Jews I know are half as hateful as you come off, and have nothing but respect towards Islam as a religion. If you know Jews that hate Islam, then that&#8217;s your personal business that I do not care about.</p>
<p>The fact that you imply (unsuccessfuly, I may add) that I&#8217;m trying to give off the impression that somehow Islam is the best religion in the world, you do this merely by assuming and not by actually providing any facts (i.e, quote from my post) that may remotely suggest this, and without exploring any of my other articles where I fight for the right of religious minorities in Muslim countries.</p>
<p>Specifically, this article came at a time where most people were associating Muslims with terrorism, constantly and incorrectly, and failing to realize that violence exists in this world regardless of any religion, and without listening to the millions of Muslim voices that are speaking out actively against terrorism in all its forms. All your other accusations are your own and are not reflected in any way by this article.</p>
<p>The idea that I am biased, that is purely common sense, and anyone suggesting that they are objective and never biased when forming their opinions, are frankly bad liars.</p>
<p>Your ignorance is apparent not because you disagree, but because you resort to a choice of words &#8220;like a typical Muslim&#8221; as opposed to factually refuting the argument without making disturbing blanket statements that only prove your lack of education and respect for anyone you disagree with.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Kong</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2006/09/14/isit-really-islam/#comment-842</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Kong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is such a bogus article with nothing but a bunch of denials all the way.  Notice the author, like a typical  muslim,  makes such statements as Koran tells us to respect Judaism or Jews admire Islam, etc.  Judaism is much older than Islam, so would it not be prudent and logical for the author to say that we must respect Judiasm because Islam grew out of it?  Second it would have been a naive attempt to be objective had the author said, &quot;Many muslims admire Islam,&quot;  (instead of &quot;many Jews admire islam&quot;) because there aren&#039;t any.  So this article, written by a muslim, is again 1-sided, and has a tone of &quot;Islam is bettter than any religion,&#039; and contains many falsehoods including &quot;it is the fastest growing religion (forgetting that the converts in the US are poor black prisoners and of course the muslims are leaving islam in droves in Africa and the former Soviet countries).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is such a bogus article with nothing but a bunch of denials all the way.  Notice the author, like a typical  muslim,  makes such statements as Koran tells us to respect Judaism or Jews admire Islam, etc.  Judaism is much older than Islam, so would it not be prudent and logical for the author to say that we must respect Judiasm because Islam grew out of it?  Second it would have been a naive attempt to be objective had the author said, &#8220;Many muslims admire Islam,&#8221;  (instead of &#8220;many Jews admire islam&#8221;) because there aren&#8217;t any.  So this article, written by a muslim, is again 1-sided, and has a tone of &#8220;Islam is bettter than any religion,&#8217; and contains many falsehoods including &#8220;it is the fastest growing religion (forgetting that the converts in the US are poor black prisoners and of course the muslims are leaving islam in droves in Africa and the former Soviet countries).</p>
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		<title>By: mohammed</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2006/09/14/isit-really-islam/#comment-841</link>
		<dc:creator>mohammed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great post.</p>
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		<title>By: Muneeb (Saudi Arabia/Pakistan)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2006/09/14/isit-really-islam/#comment-840</link>
		<dc:creator>Muneeb (Saudi Arabia/Pakistan)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gr8 post... :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gr8 post&#8230; <img src='http://www.mideastyouth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Cosmo</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2006/09/14/isit-really-islam/#comment-839</link>
		<dc:creator>Cosmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 12:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Great site, and good discussions! Good to see people can debate without getting insulting. I know my post comes a bit late, but I have only just discovered this site, so my apologies :)

As an Australian I believe that Sheikh Halali does not represent our Muslim population. Halali received much derision from people here, and the situation was laregly blown out of proportion by the media and some politicians. Personally I believe giving him that much attention only gave him more power - most of us had not even heard of him before that. Also, his comments about cats and unocovered meat reminded me of common mysogonistic views of not too long ago - the infamous &quot;She deserved it,&quot; which here had absolutely nothing to do with Islam.

Just FYI, I am not religious but have read the Koran (in English) and the Bible and think they are both lovely books. I hope forums like this help people understand that most religions have more in common with one another, and really should help everyone live in peace together.

Cosmo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Great site, and good discussions! Good to see people can debate without getting insulting. I know my post comes a bit late, but I have only just discovered this site, so my apologies <img src='http://www.mideastyouth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As an Australian I believe that Sheikh Halali does not represent our Muslim population. Halali received much derision from people here, and the situation was laregly blown out of proportion by the media and some politicians. Personally I believe giving him that much attention only gave him more power &#8211; most of us had not even heard of him before that. Also, his comments about cats and unocovered meat reminded me of common mysogonistic views of not too long ago &#8211; the infamous &#8220;She deserved it,&#8221; which here had absolutely nothing to do with Islam.</p>
<p>Just FYI, I am not religious but have read the Koran (in English) and the Bible and think they are both lovely books. I hope forums like this help people understand that most religions have more in common with one another, and really should help everyone live in peace together.</p>
<p>Cosmo</p>
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		<title>By: mike davis</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2006/09/14/isit-really-islam/#comment-838</link>
		<dc:creator>mike davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 22:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On 4/22/07, michael davis  wrote:
 	 	Esther...the problem is primarily with the imperialism that can easily be
distilled from the islamic documents and then acted upon by the islamic
imperialists. i too have lived and worked among ordinary muslims. They are
mostly interested in work and family ... not imperialism.

Nevertheless the imperialism does actually exist and it is THIS which we are
countering. the ordinary muslims are mute spectators in all this because
that muteness is part and parcel of the ideology of islam. By mute, I mean
only one point of view is ever seen ... the anti Western and anti semitic
and anti modern viewpoint of the imams. I know that many ordinary muslims
are NOT anti any of these three things ... but they are not able to
demonstrate against the &#039;imam world view&#039;. They are mute ... by force.

The imams are the problem, especially in the West. Kick THEM out and many
problems would disappear.

Allah ain&#039;t Akbar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 4/22/07, michael davis  wrote:<br />
 	 	Esther&#8230;the problem is primarily with the imperialism that can easily be<br />
distilled from the islamic documents and then acted upon by the islamic<br />
imperialists. i too have lived and worked among ordinary muslims. They are<br />
mostly interested in work and family &#8230; not imperialism.</p>
<p>Nevertheless the imperialism does actually exist and it is THIS which we are<br />
countering. the ordinary muslims are mute spectators in all this because<br />
that muteness is part and parcel of the ideology of islam. By mute, I mean<br />
only one point of view is ever seen &#8230; the anti Western and anti semitic<br />
and anti modern viewpoint of the imams. I know that many ordinary muslims<br />
are NOT anti any of these three things &#8230; but they are not able to<br />
demonstrate against the &#8216;imam world view&#8217;. They are mute &#8230; by force.</p>
<p>The imams are the problem, especially in the West. Kick THEM out and many<br />
problems would disappear.</p>
<p>Allah ain&#8217;t Akbar.</p>
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		<title>By: Esther</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2006/09/14/isit-really-islam/#comment-837</link>
		<dc:creator>Esther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 15:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vruggink, I am an American living in the midst of tens of millions of Muslims. No one has tried to hurt me or terrorize me. And while there are many policies I oppose and many problems I have, what I find myself wondering is why we Westerners have become so smug about ourselves. Jeez Louise, in living memory there have been genocides committed by us. We westerners (with some help from others) subjected Africans and their descendants to hundreds of years of slavery. To this day, no one knows how many were killed! As we learn more, the number keeps growing.

Yet, I would not argue that Western values are decadent or responsible. I value much of what I learned from Western culture. The fact is that our domestic accomplishments were not won fairly and squarely or through justice and goodness.

And, while I am super-duper anti-terrorism, I wonder what we have to say for ourselves and the terror that we let loose on the world? It&#039;s time for a little self-reflection. And this is coming from someone who values her American identity beyond what you could possibly imagine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vruggink, I am an American living in the midst of tens of millions of Muslims. No one has tried to hurt me or terrorize me. And while there are many policies I oppose and many problems I have, what I find myself wondering is why we Westerners have become so smug about ourselves. Jeez Louise, in living memory there have been genocides committed by us. We westerners (with some help from others) subjected Africans and their descendants to hundreds of years of slavery. To this day, no one knows how many were killed! As we learn more, the number keeps growing.</p>
<p>Yet, I would not argue that Western values are decadent or responsible. I value much of what I learned from Western culture. The fact is that our domestic accomplishments were not won fairly and squarely or through justice and goodness.</p>
<p>And, while I am super-duper anti-terrorism, I wonder what we have to say for ourselves and the terror that we let loose on the world? It&#8217;s time for a little self-reflection. And this is coming from someone who values her American identity beyond what you could possibly imagine.</p>
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		<title>By: Vruggink</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2006/09/14/isit-really-islam/#comment-836</link>
		<dc:creator>Vruggink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 04:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will frankly admit that I have a bad attitude toward Islam.  I believe the axiom, &quot;by their fruits ye shall know them.&quot;  The fruits that I see are violence, ignorance, corruption and poverty.  It seems as though Islam has degenerated into a political organization rather than the worship of God.  The conflict between Sunnis and Shias seems to have its origin in a political conflict between Persia and the Ottoman Empire.  Yet these groups seem to be dominating Islam.  I also believe God is Omniscient.  He&#039;s smart, He is a God of order.  Where is the order is Islam?  Who is in charge?  Obviously it is nobody and it is definitely not God.  I know that not all Muslims are not terrorists, but pretty much all terrorists are Muslim.  I just don&#039;t hear the outcry from the Muslim world against this violence amongst their own people let alone against Israel and the West.  I realize my exposure to Islam is very limited.  I would really like to understand your world, but I don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will frankly admit that I have a bad attitude toward Islam.  I believe the axiom, &#8220;by their fruits ye shall know them.&#8221;  The fruits that I see are violence, ignorance, corruption and poverty.  It seems as though Islam has degenerated into a political organization rather than the worship of God.  The conflict between Sunnis and Shias seems to have its origin in a political conflict between Persia and the Ottoman Empire.  Yet these groups seem to be dominating Islam.  I also believe God is Omniscient.  He&#8217;s smart, He is a God of order.  Where is the order is Islam?  Who is in charge?  Obviously it is nobody and it is definitely not God.  I know that not all Muslims are not terrorists, but pretty much all terrorists are Muslim.  I just don&#8217;t hear the outcry from the Muslim world against this violence amongst their own people let alone against Israel and the West.  I realize my exposure to Islam is very limited.  I would really like to understand your world, but I don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Jina (Web Surgeon)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2006/09/14/isit-really-islam/#comment-835</link>
		<dc:creator>Jina (Web Surgeon)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 03:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;i never called all muslims or arabs any one thing!&lt;/blockquote&gt;You agreed with the person who did yet you say you didn&#039;t. Your whole point is marred with contradiction, yet you say you didn&#039;t do these things. Make up your mind.

&lt;blockquote&gt;i believe the terrorists who say the book tells them to do the things they do.&lt;/blockquote&gt;You are so silly, I will now base American society and the Christian world based on what the KKK say and do. Does it make any sense?

Just because a &quot;terrorist&quot; say he is doing what a book says doesn&#039;t mean that&#039;s what the book says. This goes for every religious group out there.

According to Islam, killing an innocent person is a sin, you are going to hell, suicide is a sin, you are going to hell not heaven to get your x number of virgins like many in the West think. These actions actually contradict what the Koran says.

Koran is not the source of extremism, it&#039;s other factors such as social injustice, repressive governments and their sponsors and the hopelessness that come from it. Koran is just an excuse to validate their views to the majority, a majority who really don&#039;t give a damn like the majority living anywhere till it hits them personally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>i never called all muslims or arabs any one thing!</p></blockquote>
<p>You agreed with the person who did yet you say you didn&#8217;t. Your whole point is marred with contradiction, yet you say you didn&#8217;t do these things. Make up your mind.</p>
<blockquote><p>i believe the terrorists who say the book tells them to do the things they do.</p></blockquote>
<p>You are so silly, I will now base American society and the Christian world based on what the KKK say and do. Does it make any sense?</p>
<p>Just because a &#8220;terrorist&#8221; say he is doing what a book says doesn&#8217;t mean that&#8217;s what the book says. This goes for every religious group out there.</p>
<p>According to Islam, killing an innocent person is a sin, you are going to hell, suicide is a sin, you are going to hell not heaven to get your x number of virgins like many in the West think. These actions actually contradict what the Koran says.</p>
<p>Koran is not the source of extremism, it&#8217;s other factors such as social injustice, repressive governments and their sponsors and the hopelessness that come from it. Koran is just an excuse to validate their views to the majority, a majority who really don&#8217;t give a damn like the majority living anywhere till it hits them personally.</p>
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		<title>By: limpia</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2006/09/14/isit-really-islam/#comment-834</link>
		<dc:creator>limpia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 02:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i believe the terrorists who say the book tells them to do the things they do. Most people look at other parts of the koran, apparently.i was speculating as to why the koran seems to be such a source for the extremists.i would like to see those people who do not see the book as a literal step by step book to tell thiose others to chill and behave like them. instead many who are moderate seem to acknowledge that were they more religious they might act as the terrorists have done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i believe the terrorists who say the book tells them to do the things they do. Most people look at other parts of the koran, apparently.i was speculating as to why the koran seems to be such a source for the extremists.i would like to see those people who do not see the book as a literal step by step book to tell thiose others to chill and behave like them. instead many who are moderate seem to acknowledge that were they more religious they might act as the terrorists have done.</p>
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