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	<title>Comments on: FUNDAMENTAL ISTS</title>
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		<title>By: Esther</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/01/07/fundamental-ists/#comment-3855</link>
		<dc:creator>Esther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 10:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A note of seriousness: &quot;Islamism&quot; is supposed to mean something other than &quot;fundamentalist&quot; or &quot;Islamic&quot;: it is used to describe people who use Islam politically. Bassam Tibi argues that Islamists have almost no use for the actual religion and have done very little, if any, theological readings.

Many people use the term Christianist to describe the same political proclivity when it has a Christian bias. Jina gives us an example of this when he sites Christians who support executions. This is not Christian, it is Christianist.

I find the term useful since a fundamentalist is different from a political religionist.

(I wonder what you would say about Jews and Muslims who oppose the death penalty despite their holy books?)

And what am I? Am I secularish or a secularist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A note of seriousness: &#8220;Islamism&#8221; is supposed to mean something other than &#8220;fundamentalist&#8221; or &#8220;Islamic&#8221;: it is used to describe people who use Islam politically. Bassam Tibi argues that Islamists have almost no use for the actual religion and have done very little, if any, theological readings.</p>
<p>Many people use the term Christianist to describe the same political proclivity when it has a Christian bias. Jina gives us an example of this when he sites Christians who support executions. This is not Christian, it is Christianist.</p>
<p>I find the term useful since a fundamentalist is different from a political religionist.</p>
<p>(I wonder what you would say about Jews and Muslims who oppose the death penalty despite their holy books?)</p>
<p>And what am I? Am I secularish or a secularist?</p>
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		<title>By: Jina</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/01/07/fundamental-ists/#comment-3854</link>
		<dc:creator>Jina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 01:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fundamentalists exist in all societies, simple as that. People just need to realize that and stop demonizing just one fundamentalist groups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fundamentalists exist in all societies, simple as that. People just need to realize that and stop demonizing just one fundamentalist groups.</p>
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		<title>By: Ezra</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/01/07/fundamental-ists/#comment-3853</link>
		<dc:creator>Ezra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 23:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think one of the most intrigueing parts of this, is that the Qur&#039;an he was sworn in on once belonged to President Thomas Jefferson.  Take that you fundamentalist Christianists!  Biatch! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one of the most intrigueing parts of this, is that the Qur&#8217;an he was sworn in on once belonged to President Thomas Jefferson.  Take that you fundamentalist Christianists!  Biatch! <img src='http://www.mideastyouth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: DR X</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/01/07/fundamental-ists/#comment-3852</link>
		<dc:creator>DR X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 22:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many in the U.S. who use the term &#039;fundamentalist&#039; to describe Christians who subscribe to literalist and absolutist interpretations of Christian scripture.  These fundamentalists are increasingly being compared with Islamic fundamentalists, although the similarities are still lost on far too many Americans.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://drx.typepad.com/psychotherapyblog/2007/01/iranian_preside.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Iranian President and U.S. Christian Fundamentalists: More in Common than Meets the Eye&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many in the U.S. who use the term &#8216;fundamentalist&#8217; to describe Christians who subscribe to literalist and absolutist interpretations of Christian scripture.  These fundamentalists are increasingly being compared with Islamic fundamentalists, although the similarities are still lost on far too many Americans.</p>
<p><a href="http://drx.typepad.com/psychotherapyblog/2007/01/iranian_preside.html" rel="nofollow">Iranian President and U.S. Christian Fundamentalists: More in Common than Meets the Eye</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jina</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/01/07/fundamental-ists/#comment-3851</link>
		<dc:creator>Jina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 20:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From that article I&#039;ll quote some stuff
&lt;blockquote&gt;Mr. Ellison has been criticized by some Christian organizations and conservative radio host Dennis Prager, who say that even if the law allows him to take an oath on the Koran, he should adhere to what they call the historical tradition of taking the oath of office on the Bible.
    &quot;In your personal life, we will fight for your right to prefer any other book. We will even fight for your right to publish cartoons mocking our Bible. But, Mr. Ellison, America, not you, decides on what book its public servants take their oath,&quot; Mr. Prager, who is Jewish, wrote in an online column. &lt;/blockquote&gt;What ever happened to secularism and freedum?

&lt;blockquote&gt;The American Family Association (AFA) posted an &quot;Action Alert&quot; on its Web site requesting that supporters urge lawmakers to pass a law requiring that the Bible be used in congressional swearing-in ceremonies. &quot;What book will America base its values on, the Bible or the Koran?&quot; the AFA posting said. &lt;/blockquote&gt;Since when did American values were based on any holy book? Last time I checked Jesus said don&#039;t kill but the government execute criminals. So killing is a Christian value?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Several Jewish members of Congress have taken their oath on the Torah. Article &lt;/blockquote&gt;Why the double standards?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From that article I&#8217;ll quote some stuff</p>
<blockquote><p>Mr. Ellison has been criticized by some Christian organizations and conservative radio host Dennis Prager, who say that even if the law allows him to take an oath on the Koran, he should adhere to what they call the historical tradition of taking the oath of office on the Bible.<br />
    &#8220;In your personal life, we will fight for your right to prefer any other book. We will even fight for your right to publish cartoons mocking our Bible. But, Mr. Ellison, America, not you, decides on what book its public servants take their oath,&#8221; Mr. Prager, who is Jewish, wrote in an online column. </p></blockquote>
<p>What ever happened to secularism and freedum?</p>
<blockquote><p>The American Family Association (AFA) posted an &#8220;Action Alert&#8221; on its Web site requesting that supporters urge lawmakers to pass a law requiring that the Bible be used in congressional swearing-in ceremonies. &#8220;What book will America base its values on, the Bible or the Koran?&#8221; the AFA posting said. </p></blockquote>
<p>Since when did American values were based on any holy book? Last time I checked Jesus said don&#8217;t kill but the government execute criminals. So killing is a Christian value?</p>
<blockquote><p>Several Jewish members of Congress have taken their oath on the Torah. Article </p></blockquote>
<p>Why the double standards?</p>
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		<title>By: Esra'a</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/01/07/fundamental-ists/#comment-3850</link>
		<dc:creator>Esra'a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 20:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting article,

&lt;blockquote&gt;â€œWatch out for those Christian Fundamentalists on the flight!â€,&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I can&#039;t really remember the last time I heard the term Christian Fundamentalists. The word &#039;fundamentalist&#039; has always been very closely associated with Islam to the point where others can easily deny that other religious extremists aren&#039;t half as bad as &#039;Islamists.&#039;

I wonder what will happen if news sources adopt the word Christianists, and start blaming such people for some of the world&#039;s ills the way the word &lt;em&gt;Islamists&lt;/em&gt; has been employed for the past couple of years.
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Another change was noticed in my absence, for the first time a Quoâ€™ran was used to swear-in a Democratist â€“ a successfully imbedded Islamists maybe?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I wonder how many people in the States are frowning upon this. Considering the hateful fear-mongering that many of their sources thrive on, many Americans are probably paranoid beyond belief that &#039;Muslims are taking over.&#039; &lt;a href=&quot;http://washingtontimes.com/national/20061130-105645-4387r.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s a relevant example&lt;/a&gt; of apparent hypocracy in the States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting article,</p>
<blockquote><p>â€œWatch out for those Christian Fundamentalists on the flight!â€,</p></blockquote>
<p>I can&#8217;t really remember the last time I heard the term Christian Fundamentalists. The word &#8216;fundamentalist&#8217; has always been very closely associated with Islam to the point where others can easily deny that other religious extremists aren&#8217;t half as bad as &#8216;Islamists.&#8217;</p>
<p>I wonder what will happen if news sources adopt the word Christianists, and start blaming such people for some of the world&#8217;s ills the way the word <em>Islamists</em> has been employed for the past couple of years.</p>
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Another change was noticed in my absence, for the first time a Quoâ€™ran was used to swear-in a Democratist â€“ a successfully imbedded Islamists maybe?</p></blockquote>
<p>I wonder how many people in the States are frowning upon this. Considering the hateful fear-mongering that many of their sources thrive on, many Americans are probably paranoid beyond belief that &#8216;Muslims are taking over.&#8217; <a href="http://washingtontimes.com/national/20061130-105645-4387r.htm" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s a relevant example</a> of apparent hypocracy in the States.</p>
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