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		<title>By: jack Hampton</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/02/21/thanks-palestine/#comment-5013</link>
		<dc:creator>jack Hampton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 16:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kawthar
I hope you can count. The numbers will tell the story and when the nukes do finally hit that is all she wrote. Bye Bye murdering Palis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kawthar<br />
I hope you can count. The numbers will tell the story and when the nukes do finally hit that is all she wrote. Bye Bye murdering Palis.</p>
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		<title>By: Kawthar (Sudan)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/02/21/thanks-palestine/#comment-5012</link>
		<dc:creator>Kawthar (Sudan)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 16:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of you people are off your rocker that try to defend the indefensible. If the Israeli is not bombing then they [sic] are supporting radicalism by starving the people. Sooner or later the Palestinians are going to be forced to use stronger artillery to stop this insane madness. But all the Israelis have to do is stop the bombing and killing and there will be peace. End of story all the other stuff is just so much bullshit. The murdering Israelis will bring about there [sic]own destruction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of you people are off your rocker that try to defend the indefensible. If the Israeli is not bombing then they [sic] are supporting radicalism by starving the people. Sooner or later the Palestinians are going to be forced to use stronger artillery to stop this insane madness. But all the Israelis have to do is stop the bombing and killing and there will be peace. End of story all the other stuff is just so much bullshit. The murdering Israelis will bring about there [sic]own destruction.</p>
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		<title>By: jack Hampton</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/02/21/thanks-palestine/#comment-5011</link>
		<dc:creator>jack Hampton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 16:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of you people are off your rocker that try to defend the indefensible. If the Palitianian is not bombing then they are supporting the bombers by allowing them to hid in there neighborhoods. Sooner or later the Jews are going to be forced to use low yeild nukes to stop this insane madness. But all the Palis have to do is stop the bombing and killing and there will be peace. End of story all the other stuff is just so much bullshit. The murdering palis will bring about there own destruction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of you people are off your rocker that try to defend the indefensible. If the Palitianian is not bombing then they are supporting the bombers by allowing them to hid in there neighborhoods. Sooner or later the Jews are going to be forced to use low yeild nukes to stop this insane madness. But all the Palis have to do is stop the bombing and killing and there will be peace. End of story all the other stuff is just so much bullshit. The murdering palis will bring about there own destruction.</p>
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		<title>By: hashfanatic</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/02/21/thanks-palestine/#comment-5010</link>
		<dc:creator>hashfanatic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 04:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That why true pacificists are functionally evil.&quot;

&#039;Nuff said, on such &quot;morally fixed&quot; dialogue....and &quot;antisemitism&quot; is always the default playing card to be whipped out....in my opinion, Egypt should adopt a far more isolationist stance, and not let their desire for peace interfere with rational measures for internal security and Israeli/American pity-partying....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That why true pacificists are functionally evil.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8216;Nuff said, on such &#8220;morally fixed&#8221; dialogue&#8230;.and &#8220;antisemitism&#8221; is always the default playing card to be whipped out&#8230;.in my opinion, Egypt should adopt a far more isolationist stance, and not let their desire for peace interfere with rational measures for internal security and Israeli/American pity-partying&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Howie</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/02/21/thanks-palestine/#comment-5009</link>
		<dc:creator>Howie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we did not have passionate and difficult issues to discuss, would this not be

Middle East Youth for Receipe Sharing

or

Middle East Youth the Salavation of the California Desert Kangaroo Rat?

We get excited...and then go back and think...we both have problems with people who get excited and don&#039;t think very much.

Friends until the oil runs out and Baharinis go back to pearl diving and until the money runs back and Americans go back to buffalo hunting...

Shit...no more buffalo!!!

Any job openings for pearl divers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we did not have passionate and difficult issues to discuss, would this not be</p>
<p>Middle East Youth for Receipe Sharing</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>Middle East Youth the Salavation of the California Desert Kangaroo Rat?</p>
<p>We get excited&#8230;and then go back and think&#8230;we both have problems with people who get excited and don&#8217;t think very much.</p>
<p>Friends until the oil runs out and Baharinis go back to pearl diving and until the money runs back and Americans go back to buffalo hunting&#8230;</p>
<p>Shit&#8230;no more buffalo!!!</p>
<p>Any job openings for pearl divers?</p>
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		<title>By: Esra'a</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/02/21/thanks-palestine/#comment-5008</link>
		<dc:creator>Esra'a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 23:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You never cease to amuse me Howie, this is yet another one of those long discussions where we disagree with everything the other says but maintain our friendship through our weird tastes in humor. I respect you despite our political differences and take pride in calling you a friend.

By the way, that picture of the girl vomiting into an airplane bag wasn&#039;t me. That was my Omani friend Iman. I haven&#039;t posted a picture of me yet, I don&#039;t wanna make the other girls here jealous. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You never cease to amuse me Howie, this is yet another one of those long discussions where we disagree with everything the other says but maintain our friendship through our weird tastes in humor. I respect you despite our political differences and take pride in calling you a friend.</p>
<p>By the way, that picture of the girl vomiting into an airplane bag wasn&#8217;t me. That was my Omani friend Iman. I haven&#8217;t posted a picture of me yet, I don&#8217;t wanna make the other girls here jealous. <img src='http://www.mideastyouth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Howie</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/02/21/thanks-palestine/#comment-5007</link>
		<dc:creator>Howie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 23:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Esra&#039;a-

&quot;Can we all just forget this ever happened and go out for shwaramas or something?&quot;

To all who come to this blog...this is why I love this woman. Passion, caring and ultimately a deep desire for reconciliation and truth.

And after I saw her picture recently...I feel even more deeply in love with this beauty...vomiting into an airplane bag...

I have sold that picture to Playboy...she is on next month&#039;s cover...next to George Bush Sr. vomiting and fainting at that Japanese event so many years ago.

It don&#039;t get sexier than that.

Mrs. Esra&#039; Fatima Goldberg...has a very nice ring

(Sound of two hands clapping sharply twice)

&quot;Woman...my shawarma!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Esra&#8217;a-</p>
<p>&#8220;Can we all just forget this ever happened and go out for shwaramas or something?&#8221;</p>
<p>To all who come to this blog&#8230;this is why I love this woman. Passion, caring and ultimately a deep desire for reconciliation and truth.</p>
<p>And after I saw her picture recently&#8230;I feel even more deeply in love with this beauty&#8230;vomiting into an airplane bag&#8230;</p>
<p>I have sold that picture to Playboy&#8230;she is on next month&#8217;s cover&#8230;next to George Bush Sr. vomiting and fainting at that Japanese event so many years ago.</p>
<p>It don&#8217;t get sexier than that.</p>
<p>Mrs. Esra&#8217; Fatima Goldberg&#8230;has a very nice ring</p>
<p>(Sound of two hands clapping sharply twice)</p>
<p>&#8220;Woman&#8230;my shawarma!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Esra'a</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/02/21/thanks-palestine/#comment-5006</link>
		<dc:creator>Esra'a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And Esraâ€™aâ€¦I do resent the comment about â€œa few rocketsâ€.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Fine, I exaggerated. But only for the sake of irritating Darleen.

Can we all just forget this ever happened and go out for shwaramas or something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And Esraâ€™aâ€¦I do resent the comment about â€œa few rocketsâ€.</p></blockquote>
<p>Fine, I exaggerated. But only for the sake of irritating Darleen.</p>
<p>Can we all just forget this ever happened and go out for shwaramas or something?</p>
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		<title>By: Howie</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/02/21/thanks-palestine/#comment-5005</link>
		<dc:creator>Howie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 21:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly...I am confused...but once again...it is very clear how folks can look at the same data (always distorted by the various propogandists from all sides of course)...and see things SO differently.

I follow Esra&#039;a&#039;s thinking and pretty often disagree with it...at least on the Palestinian/Israeli issue. But she is not a Jew hater or an Israel hater...that I am completely convinced of...in fact, like her Prohpet, I believe Esra believe the Jews have a right to Israel (man that might set off some fireworks...but I have read it in the Koran myself).

I believe the Palestinians have rights and am sympathetic to some of their claims.  Many got a bad deal...as have we Jews (far more often through history and far worse) and so have many other people.

Still...I see the Palestinians as being the main cause for lack of progress...They keep restorting to terrorism and cannot come up with an intelligent consensus approach...moderation is crushed, liberalism can be death and if they are not busy fighting us...they are threatening and killing each other. I cannot see how Israel can make peace with them under such circumstances.

And Esra&#039;a...I do resent the comment about &quot;a few rockets&quot;. The count was 5,000 or more and would have been more given the opportunity. All of Lebanon was not bombed..and fewer civilians would have been injured it Hiz. did not set up camp in civilian areas. By-the-way...most of those 5,000 rockets were aimed at big cities...not army bases...Hiz. and Syrian and Iran are destroying Lebanon..along with the Lebanese themselves with their bloody civil wars...but that is another story.

Anyhow...I just don&#039;t feel so sorry for the Palestinians anymore...not when I consistently see polls taken where huge majorities support terror attacks. And they are not few...they are regular and few people here understand that far more are prevented than successful or it would really be a disaster. This thing could have been settled long ago...but the Palestinians and their handlers always hedged...just like Hamas is doing today...killing yet another opportunity for peace...same tragic story.

People tah-tah and brush off that Israel gave back Sinai, Gaza and left Lebanon. Sinai has worked out...the other two have not. There is a peace agreement with Jordan. The Muslims kill each other at a far far greater rate than any Israeli action. What have the Palestinians given? 6 months without terror, 3 months, 2 months...??? Nope...even in quiet periods there have always been attempts...and during relatively quiet periods...there has always typically been progress in bettering people&#039;s lives.

So me...I don&#039;t see it at all the same, at all relative or at all equal...I think the Palestinians need to start with their own leadership, their schools, and their behavior. If terror truly stops, positive change with happen and a fair settlement shoudl be arrived at. If it doesn&#039;t stop...I personally would give in to nothing...not under those conditions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly&#8230;I am confused&#8230;but once again&#8230;it is very clear how folks can look at the same data (always distorted by the various propogandists from all sides of course)&#8230;and see things SO differently.</p>
<p>I follow Esra&#8217;a's thinking and pretty often disagree with it&#8230;at least on the Palestinian/Israeli issue. But she is not a Jew hater or an Israel hater&#8230;that I am completely convinced of&#8230;in fact, like her Prohpet, I believe Esra believe the Jews have a right to Israel (man that might set off some fireworks&#8230;but I have read it in the Koran myself).</p>
<p>I believe the Palestinians have rights and am sympathetic to some of their claims.  Many got a bad deal&#8230;as have we Jews (far more often through history and far worse) and so have many other people.</p>
<p>Still&#8230;I see the Palestinians as being the main cause for lack of progress&#8230;They keep restorting to terrorism and cannot come up with an intelligent consensus approach&#8230;moderation is crushed, liberalism can be death and if they are not busy fighting us&#8230;they are threatening and killing each other. I cannot see how Israel can make peace with them under such circumstances.</p>
<p>And Esra&#8217;a&#8230;I do resent the comment about &#8220;a few rockets&#8221;. The count was 5,000 or more and would have been more given the opportunity. All of Lebanon was not bombed..and fewer civilians would have been injured it Hiz. did not set up camp in civilian areas. By-the-way&#8230;most of those 5,000 rockets were aimed at big cities&#8230;not army bases&#8230;Hiz. and Syrian and Iran are destroying Lebanon..along with the Lebanese themselves with their bloody civil wars&#8230;but that is another story.</p>
<p>Anyhow&#8230;I just don&#8217;t feel so sorry for the Palestinians anymore&#8230;not when I consistently see polls taken where huge majorities support terror attacks. And they are not few&#8230;they are regular and few people here understand that far more are prevented than successful or it would really be a disaster. This thing could have been settled long ago&#8230;but the Palestinians and their handlers always hedged&#8230;just like Hamas is doing today&#8230;killing yet another opportunity for peace&#8230;same tragic story.</p>
<p>People tah-tah and brush off that Israel gave back Sinai, Gaza and left Lebanon. Sinai has worked out&#8230;the other two have not. There is a peace agreement with Jordan. The Muslims kill each other at a far far greater rate than any Israeli action. What have the Palestinians given? 6 months without terror, 3 months, 2 months&#8230;??? Nope&#8230;even in quiet periods there have always been attempts&#8230;and during relatively quiet periods&#8230;there has always typically been progress in bettering people&#8217;s lives.</p>
<p>So me&#8230;I don&#8217;t see it at all the same, at all relative or at all equal&#8230;I think the Palestinians need to start with their own leadership, their schools, and their behavior. If terror truly stops, positive change with happen and a fair settlement shoudl be arrived at. If it doesn&#8217;t stop&#8230;I personally would give in to nothing&#8230;not under those conditions</p>
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		<title>By: Esra'a</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/02/21/thanks-palestine/#comment-5004</link>
		<dc:creator>Esra'a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And let me clarify one thing -

&lt;blockquote&gt;If you donâ€™t like it, there are plenty of other websites you can go to that justify terrorism on either side and where people can fight back and fourth on whoâ€™s right and whoâ€™s wrong. I wonâ€™t do that, not here anyways. And I wonâ€™t let this discussion turn into that.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I meant it.

I won&#039;t let these types of discussions take place here and have this website be a mirror of all the other websites that you frequent, where emphasizing &quot;us&quot; and &quot;them&quot; takes place. We here are attempting to do exactly the opposite which is why there are Israelis here who post alongside Arabs and Muslims. If you don&#039;t like that, there is a great spot at LGF waiting for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And let me clarify one thing -</p>
<blockquote><p>If you donâ€™t like it, there are plenty of other websites you can go to that justify terrorism on either side and where people can fight back and fourth on whoâ€™s right and whoâ€™s wrong. I wonâ€™t do that, not here anyways. And I wonâ€™t let this discussion turn into that.</p></blockquote>
<p>I meant it.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t let these types of discussions take place here and have this website be a mirror of all the other websites that you frequent, where emphasizing &#8220;us&#8221; and &#8220;them&#8221; takes place. We here are attempting to do exactly the opposite which is why there are Israelis here who post alongside Arabs and Muslims. If you don&#8217;t like that, there is a great spot at LGF waiting for you.</p>
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