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The World Bank has told Israel their work on Palestinians’ right to work and move in the Territories is bad for the Palestinian Economy. Really? No kidding? Huh. So making it really hard for people to get from home to work, stores and medical supplies will hurt an economy. You don’t say! No wonder the World Bank is in such trouble.
So the World Bank, clearly run by Jews cause it is a bank, is criticizing Israel. So when will we hear that the World Bank is anti-Semitic? But wait, are the Palestinians not at all to blame for these economic failures?
Groups like Hamas, both their political and terrorist wings, are not helping the situation at all. We see people being taught by a Mickey Mouse likeness to kill the Jews and destroy Israel. The PA has not stopped using terror as a tactic to beat a much stronger and clearly superior military force. This lack of mobility, and requisite economic depression, is a two way street.
Israel is a much to blame as the leadership of the Palestinian people.
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All what you said is true. It’s very easy to blame both sides and anyone who doesn’t is an idiot.
However, Hamas only recently came to power. When Palestinians were given economic freedom and mobility in the 1990s, all was well in the Unholy Land.
After Israel’s heavyhanded incursions into Palestinian territories, the occupation, and checkpoints that restrict freedom of movement even WITHIN the West Bank (and have on more than one occasion refused pregant women and emergency patients IN AMBULANCES access to hospitals), that’s when Palestinian desperation sets in and sets off a wave of violence and hateful indoctrination. Obviously such actions don’t serve the cause of peace or justice or the Palestinian cause in general. And they just serve to propagate a cycle and make matters worse. It’s going to take decades to reverse anti-Semitic indoctrination. But it can be reversed much faster if Palestinians are given access to “good Jews” who aren’t clad in uniform and pointing at them with the barrel of a gun or nutty settlers who despise the Palestinians.
It’s going to take one side to turn the other cheek for a little bit to set the area on a path to peace. Neither side wants to. Israel has the resources to offer free movement of goods and people and open international borders to the Palestinians while still preserving its security. It’s a matter of choice.
Patrick-
No question. You can’t blame just Hamas either. You can blame the PLO in the 1970s and 80s. The PA in the late 1990s. Israel is guilty of half (if not more) of the problems in this occupation but it would be wrong not to expose all sides of the problems here. Thanks for being understanding Partick.
People with an income and that interact with Israelis on a daily basis are less likely to want to kill them? I’m not sure how these issues are related.
Well Peter I’m more inclined to blame Hamas than the PLO. Came in mind that the PLO was not even in the Palestinian territories in the 70s and 80s, and the only reason it turned into a “terrorist” organization is because it was denied the ability to form a legitimate government with a legitimate army. As for the PA in the 1990s, I think their faults, and there were faults, had more to do with their greed and corruption than any intentional evil.
Nadia, the answer to your question is an emphatic YES. People with an income and that intereact with Israelis on a daily basis are certainly less likely to want to kill them. It’s pretty obvious actually.
Right…
Kinda goes well with the idea of Usama being a millionaire and how all most all the 9/11 hijackers all had university education… I don’t know what planet you are from but, university education is not an option for a poor person in the ME for most part.
How is that obvious? Some come from a middle class status. And I’m sure some have some kind of interaction with Israelis, as in many instances you can’t avoid it… it’s not like the two nations are entirely isolated, they deal with each other often.
Forgot my source.
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Okay, if you need more source I got like a list. Now show your fucking source for your “it’s pretty obvious actually” crap.
Facts, if you want to consider facts rather then the words of a high schooler, says that only 15% are from poor families while rest are… ohhh ohh that means it’s the rich ones again doing the fucking up and the poor getting the blame.. w00t to that. Get over your fucking superiority complex, it’s not very healthy.
I have nothing to add on this argument.
I’m just not really clear at all on why the two issues are being paired in this post. I don’t really see how they’re related. I don’t really see how a ridiculous children’s propaganda show is directly responsible for a breakdown of the Palestinian economy.
To be fair he actually didn’t say a word about poverty, class or level of education, though.
They are not related, that’s why I posted those things.
What’s breaking the Palestinian economy is the air blockade, sea blockade, land blockade and the daily incursions and curfews and not to mention the destruction of property, this includes vehicles (taxi drivers) and farmed crops. One can’t do business when your customers are trapped in their house 24/7. How about doing something about this?
Terror is the only way to fight a superior military. Only a moron would go head on against such odds. Terrorism is just a military tactics, end the occupation and terrorism will stop. Keep in mind that occupation is what causing the terrorism, terrorism didn’t cause the occupation. Ohh, the wars don’t bring that up, it was not fought by the Palestinians. It was caused by Israel’s other neighbors, go bomb them and leave the Palestinians alone.
And the Palestinian leadership is the result of Israeli actions.
They are not related, that’s why I posted those things.
I was asking the guy that made the thread why he thinks they are, durr.
Define what that means? In English, those with money are less likely want to kill Israelis. My sources point out that that’s not the case, it shows that it’s the “people with an income” actually wants to kill the Israelis more and most terrorists are from higher income families. Very contradicting note to what Patrick said.
One more thing, I agree with Peter’s general point, but I put more blame on the Israelis than the Palestinians themselves. Palestinians are reacting in a negative way and that’s their problem. They are already in a hole and keep digging instead of climbing out of it.
When you make a post after mine without quoting or being specific, I have to say something. I am not telepathic.
I think “I have no interest in this argument, I just wanted to address the original post” is pretty specific, I think, Jina.
Fair enough…I will address the point. I have to say, when you blame one group only you are not looking for an answer you are looking for a scape goat.
Israel does some awful things in the Palestinian Territories and should be held accountable. But the failure of the Palestinian Economy is a two way street. In the 1990s when terrorist attacks were not as common and after the first intifada, Palestinian economy was much stronger. Working hand in hand with their Israeli neighbors, things were looking up. As the negations took place in Camp David, Egypt, etc, the economy looked great.
The out break of the second intifada, which was started for Gods knows why and by whom, was the downfall of the Palestinian economy. The road blocks and check points and curfews really hurt the Palestinian economy. But the explosions of buses with children on them didn’t help either.
Likewise if you really believe this:
You are living in a dream world. Terrorism is not a military tactic. It is a means to destroy a civilian population with no military intent. Terror isn’t flanking or cutting phone lines or attacking military personnel, it is killing men, women and children at a movie theater or at a dance club. Without a rejection of terrorism, Palestinians will continue to live in exile and Israel will continue to fight back.
And what about the other Arab countries who continue to screw the Palestinians? Why is it only the Jews fault?