I am against homosexuality and Im not a ‘homophobe’ as they wish me to be labelled…I do not have a phobia of buggers and queers, or men who wish to dress up as women and vice versa or transexuals. I am disgusted by them.

If you accept their way, then why not accept the man who wants to have anal sex with a boy? It may be ‘in his genes or chromosomes’ just as they, homosexuals claim for their deviancy using mere (disproven) theories such as Darwinism and perverted thinkers such as Freud.

Anyone who believes in God and accepts His Word knows that God chose a male for a female…and destroyed those who wished to transgress that as what happened in Sodom and Ghomorra. Thats is a literal and clear lesson that we cannot try and twist to suit somes hideous desires.

Nice to hear from you.
You said
“You have full right to ask & talk with your beloved God. Every one in this world has right to love God as his/her own way. I tell you one incident may be you like. Once Prophet Moses/Mosa (AS) was passing by a shepherd/farmer man and he was sitting alone and talking with God. Oh…God if I find you, I will give you a bath, I will wear you beautiful dresses and make your hairs, etc….As Prophet Moses/Mosa (AS) heard this, he angry & shouted on this shepherd/farmer and said what bullshit you are saying about God. Immediately make apologize (tauba) other wise God will punish you. That person immediately apologize and ask forgiveness from God”.

It seems you are so fortunate. You listened the conversation between GOD(Allah) and prophet Moses. How they looked, how old you were at that time. Did you recorded the dialogue. Please
let us know in details. The way Moses speaks it exposes he was a stupid. How you consider him prophet?

Yes I talk to my beloved god every now and then. Read the following.

Halim. Good morning Allah. How are you?
Allah. I am fine. How are you my son?
Halim. With your blessing I am fine. I like to ask you a question. Will you permit me?
Allah. Yes, Yes, I feel so happy that you speaking to me.
Halim. Do you think it is my duty to read Al-Kuran to know about
your teaching to mankind?
Allah. My son, you make me so frustrated. Why you need to read
this book that book when I am ready to talk to you in
person. Ask me any question, answer will be given
immediately.

More will follow.

Similarly, while Turkish society has lots flaws and failings, and admittedly is getting worse, it is still a society with an elected parliament, legal opposition parties, a relatively free press, and an independent judicial system.

Going back to my earlier point, I think it is not a coincidence that Turkish political life is getting more repressive at the same time as the economy is faltering. I think people who feel prosperous and secure are likely to be more tolerant than those who feel marginalized and threatened.

I agree that it is not about religion, but it IS about religious leaders gaining more power that in other countries would be in the hands of state officials or politicians.

Thank you for the explanation about imams. Khomeini was often referred to as “the Imam” so I thought it meant something like “religious leader”.

Turkey doesn’t deserve to be in the EU especially if they don’t respect freedom of speech or the right for women to choose what they wear (hijab.) I don’t see the country as one that is more progressed than other Muslim countries. Minorities are oppressed; Christians get killed by extrimists, as do Armenian authors, as do anyone who dares to speak about human rights. None of this support your point at all, there is no tolerance whatsoever for anyone who thinks or believes in different things.

It’s nothing like you say it is Jack. This isn’t progress.

This is politics. Not religion. You are blaming imams when it’s politicians committing these crimes, many of whom aren’t even religious.

Finally you are wrong in calling them imams. An imam is someone who leads any prayer in Islam – what you mean to say is just “religious leaders.” Imam means and implies entirely different things.

Aside from the lives that will be lost and made miserable during the fight, Turkish democracy may perish as well. It is not a happy prospect.

I for one was hopeful that the admission of Turkey to at least associate status in the European Union would arrest or even reverse her current slide backward. But the Europeans apparently decided that it is up to Turkey to achieve that on her own.

Still, even Turkey’s current misfortunes support my point. As the imams have gained more power there lately, public freedoms have been curtailed.

You suggest that a gay teacher is the worst of all possible evils. I disagree. If the person explaining geometry at the blackboard explains it well, what do I care what he does when he or she goes home? As to the risk to the young people, I am no more willing to have a man fondle my daughter than my son. That is strictly forbidden to all, gay and straight alike.

Don’t forget:

1) What Turkey does to its Kurds.

2) Its state-owned ISPs blocks videos or sites critical of Ataturk or the ruling party.

3) Freedom of speech is not respected; anyone from student activists to professors get arrested and harrassed.

4) Turkey is not modern with such poor human rights records and such poor standards of education that doesn’t even allow you to criticize neither Islam as a religion nor any leaders.

Like I said the other place you posted this, many human rights activists were abused in this country. Did you also not read the controversy about harassing women and headscarves in Universities? You call the hijab ban “modernization”? It’s hideous.

Turkey is NOTHING like how you describe it.

I think this sort of discussion ignores the 600 pound gorilla in the room, and that gorilla is Turkey.

Turkey is the most populous country in the Middle East and the largest. By every measure it is the most successful Muslim society – it has high levels of income, education, health and life expectancy, and so on, and it is a parliamentary democracy.

Turkey is the model Muslim countries should be trying to emulate yet no one here mentions it. Modern Turkey is not just the creation of Mustafa Kemal but also of the consensus of the Turkish people who wanted to adopt his modernizations and secularizations.

In Turkey public authority is in the hands of the state, not of the imams. And Turkey does not use the “the dog ate my homework” excuse of blaming Israel and the US for whatever goes wrong there.

Taking power out of the hands of the imam and taking responsibility for its own circumstances have made Turkey what it is today. Doing the opposite has made many other countries what they are today as well.