Comments on: Are There Still Redlines? http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/06/15/are-there-still-redlines/ Promoting a fierce but respectful dialogue among the highly diverse youth of the Middle East Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:40:02 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: senfkugel http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/06/15/are-there-still-redlines/#comment-49144 senfkugel Sun, 17 Jun 2007 21:46:03 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/06/15/are-there-still-redlines/#comment-49144 At least the Falestini have a state now - a state of emergency. At least the Falestini have a state now – a state of emergency.

]]> By: Finnpundit http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/06/15/are-there-still-redlines/#comment-48856 Finnpundit Sat, 16 Jun 2007 11:20:53 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/06/15/are-there-still-redlines/#comment-48856 There's been nothing but good news coming from the region these past few days. This is a huge setback for Islamofascism. The PA is effectively split, making further confrontation and war an inevitability. Islamofascism, by its very nature, will spawn war, and it's only befitting that the brunt of the conflict is felt by other Muslims. There’s been nothing but good news coming from the region these past few days. This is a huge setback for Islamofascism. The PA is effectively split, making further confrontation and war an inevitability.

Islamofascism, by its very nature, will spawn war, and it’s only befitting that the brunt of the conflict is felt by other Muslims.

]]> By: Miriam (Egypt/Israel/USA) http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/06/15/are-there-still-redlines/#comment-48757 Miriam (Egypt/Israel/USA) Fri, 15 Jun 2007 20:22:42 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/06/15/are-there-still-redlines/#comment-48757 You know, I started the day very pessimistic and was startled to read this from conflictblotter.com: <blockquote>Despite alarmed phone calls from editors and loved ones, we feel quite safe and secure now. Compared to the past week things now feel blissfully peaceful. It seems many who write me think we should fear Hamas now that it is in control, but the reality is that the big threat to foreigners and journalists down here is not and never was Hamas. It’s criminal gangs, and far more sinister Islamic radicals who are exploited by the criminal gangs. The consensus is that now, with Hamas newly installed as the kings of Gaza, those criminal elements are going to lie low for the time being, adopting a wait and see attitude to Hamas.</blockquote> I think the distinction between Hamas, criminal gangs, and Islamic radicals is long overdue and perhaps the only hopeful thing I've read all day. You know, I started the day very pessimistic and was startled to read this from conflictblotter.com:

Despite alarmed phone calls from editors and loved ones, we feel quite safe and secure now. Compared to the past week things now feel blissfully peaceful. It seems many who write me think we should fear Hamas now that it is in control, but the reality is that the big threat to foreigners and journalists down here is not and never was Hamas. It’s criminal gangs, and far more sinister Islamic radicals who are exploited by the criminal gangs. The consensus is that now, with Hamas newly installed as the kings of Gaza, those criminal elements are going to lie low for the time being, adopting a wait and see attitude to Hamas.

I think the distinction between Hamas, criminal gangs, and Islamic radicals is long overdue and perhaps the only hopeful thing I’ve read all day.

]]> By: lamer http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/06/15/are-there-still-redlines/#comment-48750 lamer Fri, 15 Jun 2007 19:58:52 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/06/15/are-there-still-redlines/#comment-48750 LOL! LOL!

]]> By: katz_killer http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/06/15/are-there-still-redlines/#comment-48747 katz_killer Fri, 15 Jun 2007 19:35:20 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/06/15/are-there-still-redlines/#comment-48747 Did you hear that Fatah and Hamas are burying the hatchet and going to merge? They'll now be known as Fatass.(hat tip to the elder) Did you hear that Fatah and Hamas are burying the hatchet and going to merge?

They’ll now be known as Fatass.(hat tip to the elder)

]]> By: unknown http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/06/15/are-there-still-redlines/#comment-48735 unknown Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:18:08 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/06/15/are-there-still-redlines/#comment-48735 G_d better be up there for all of us, and the first part of the following comment better be true, quote: "But it will not be a Muslim army that destroys Israel, (it will be The Almighty GOD)." The Sun itserlf will 'die' one day, Earth itself will disapear, and so will the US, Palestine and Israel, but that hopefully wouldn't be the direct concern of our children. G_d better be up there for all of us, and the first part of the following comment better be true, quote: “But it will not be a Muslim army that destroys Israel, (it will be The Almighty GOD).”

The Sun itserlf will ‘die’ one day, Earth itself will disapear, and so will the US, Palestine and Israel, but that hopefully wouldn’t be the direct concern of our children.

]]> By: Esra'a http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/06/15/are-there-still-redlines/#comment-48718 Esra'a Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:06:03 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/06/15/are-there-still-redlines/#comment-48718 Abu Rafi, What Islamic revolution are you talking about? Muslims all over the world are killing each other and you call this a revolution?! We are an embarrassment. And we have no business taking over the world with our swords. Let's first learn how to respect each other as fellow Muslims and then come and tell me about "defeating the Zionist threat." We are divided as hell. Just look at Iraq, Palestine, the relationship between Iran and the Arab world... this is anything but unity... we are at war with ourselves. We are our own worst enemies. Abu Rafi,

What Islamic revolution are you talking about?

Muslims all over the world are killing each other and you call this a revolution?! We are an embarrassment. And we have no business taking over the world with our swords.

Let’s first learn how to respect each other as fellow Muslims and then come and tell me about “defeating the Zionist threat.” We are divided as hell. Just look at Iraq, Palestine, the relationship between Iran and the Arab world… this is anything but unity… we are at war with ourselves. We are our own worst enemies.

]]> By: Abu Rafi http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/06/15/are-there-still-redlines/#comment-48715 Abu Rafi Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:59:03 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/06/15/are-there-still-redlines/#comment-48715 "The era of justice and Islamic rule have arrived!" A HAMAS spokesman in the Gaza Strip declared referring to the Islamists’ victory over the Zionist collaborators of Fatah. It is a victory of the people of The Almighty GOD over the forces of Socialism, Communism, atheistic secularism and corruption. It is another victory of good over evil, of truth over lies, of Islam over Christendom, her bastard child Israel and their lackeys. The Fatah troops and police were routed because, like the soldiers of Satan (U.S./U.K. Coalition in Afghanistan and Iraq), the Fatah fighters are materialists who love this temporal world and fear death, whereas the warriors of The Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) are true believing Muslims who are fearless and whose goal is victory or martyrdom; the latter being preferable to the former because death unites the person with their Beloved GOD (ALLAH) and those who die fighting in defense of Islam get many blessings in the hereafter. Despite their military might and technical superiority, the Occidentals and Israelis will never defeat the Muslims. Today the Gaza Strip, tomorrow the West Bank, then…Jerusalem! Without the U.S., and to a lesser degree the U.K., there could be no Racist Zionist State of Israel. No wonder there is a Star of David (made up of 13 stars above eagle's head) on the Great Seal of the United States: the U.S. allowed the Zionist state of Israel to be illegally established on Palestinian lands. The U.S. watches as Israelis ethnically cleanse Arab lands. The U.S. supported Israel's illegal land confiscation after the 6-Day War. The U.S. gives Israel billions of U.S. dollars in economic and military aid. The U.S. is silent as the Zionists build illegal settlements on land that Palestinians were forced off of. The U.S. stands with Israel as the Zionists continue to violate the human rights of Palestinian men, women and children. The U.S. continues its unconditional support of the Zionists despite the fact that the Palestinians are being treated worse than the Blacks in South Africa were under Apartheid. There will never be peace in the Middle East until there is justice for the Palestinians, and there will be no justice for the Palestinians until Israel is destroyed, which will happen. But it will not be a Muslim army that destroys Israel, it will be The Almighty GOD. GOD will destroy Israel because the Israelis disobey The Law. Most Israelis are secular-minded and irreligious, many violate The Sabbath, fornicate and condone homosexuality. Some Israelis even eat pork. These, and other sinful actions by the Israelis incur the wrath of GOD. Also, the mistreatment of the Palestinians angers GOD. One would think that Ashkenazi (European) Jews would be particularly sensitive to violating peoples human rights, but evidently they (Ashkenazi Jews) do not speak out about the inhumanly brutal way that the Arabs are treated by the Israeli government. After all, it is the suffering of the Jews of Europe at the hands of the Nazis that is the cause of Palestinian troubles. It is hard to understand why the Palestinians have to suffer because of the crimes of the Nazis. A part of Germany should have been given to the Jews as a homeland instead of Arab Palestine. In the Middle East there must be justice for the people of Palestine. If there is no justice there will be no peace. GOD will not allow the Israelis to live in peace with their Arab neighbors unless they repent to GOD and obey The Law. All over the world an Islamic revolution is taking place. The hearts and minds of the Muslims are breaking the shackles of colonialism. Brave Islamic warriors are standing up to the Occidental forces of racialism and economic oppression. Last year (The Party of GOD/Hezbullah) and today (Fatah ul-Islam) in Lebanon; right now in Afghanistan and Iraq, the neo-Crusaders, the Zionists and their proxies have been defeated, or are now suffering military losses to the brave Muslim fighters. The Afghanis and the Iraqis are proud peoples who refuse to be subjugated by any infidel invaders. Soon the Crucifixers will be forced into an humiliating and shameful retreat. The Occidental minions of Satan will be expelled from all Islamic lands and seas. U.S. President George W. Bush’s neo-Crusader War on Islam is proving to be a terrible waste of human lives and money. Islam is the only obstacle preventing the Occidentals and their bastard child Israel from economic and social domination of the world. Hence Islam must be destroyed! But The Light of Islam will never be extinguished. Islam is the fastest growing religion on earth. Muslims around the world are turning away from the devilish ideologies, philosophies and schisms of the West and seeking answers and guidance in the teachings of The Holy Qur’an and the example of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him and mercy to his family). Muslim populations are growing much faster than any other faith. The heroic Egyptian martyr, Lieutenant Colonel Khalid al Islambuli said it best, “ISLAM FOR THE WORLD!” “The era of justice and Islamic rule have arrived!” A HAMAS spokesman in the Gaza Strip declared referring to the Islamists’ victory over the Zionist collaborators of Fatah. It is a victory of the people of The Almighty GOD over the forces of Socialism, Communism, atheistic secularism and corruption. It is another victory of good over evil, of truth over lies, of Islam over Christendom, her bastard child Israel and their lackeys. The Fatah troops and police were routed because, like the soldiers of Satan (U.S./U.K. Coalition in Afghanistan and Iraq), the Fatah fighters are materialists who love this temporal world and fear death, whereas the warriors of The Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) are true believing Muslims who are fearless and whose goal is victory or martyrdom; the latter being preferable to the former because death unites the person with their Beloved GOD (ALLAH) and those who die fighting in defense of Islam get many blessings in the hereafter. Despite their military might and technical superiority, the Occidentals and Israelis will never defeat the Muslims. Today the Gaza Strip, tomorrow the West Bank, then…Jerusalem! Without the U.S., and to a lesser degree the U.K., there could be no Racist Zionist State of Israel. No wonder there is a Star of David (made up of 13 stars above eagle’s head) on the Great Seal of the United States: the U.S. allowed the Zionist state of Israel to be illegally established on Palestinian lands. The U.S. watches as Israelis ethnically cleanse Arab lands. The U.S. supported Israel’s illegal land confiscation after the 6-Day War. The U.S. gives Israel billions of U.S. dollars in economic and military aid. The U.S. is silent as the Zionists build illegal settlements on land that Palestinians were forced off of. The U.S. stands with Israel as the Zionists continue to violate the human rights of Palestinian men, women and children. The U.S. continues its unconditional support of the Zionists despite the fact that the Palestinians are being treated worse than the Blacks in South Africa were under Apartheid. There will never be peace in the Middle East until there is justice for the Palestinians, and there will be no justice for the Palestinians until Israel is destroyed, which will happen. But it will not be a Muslim army that destroys Israel, it will be The Almighty GOD. GOD will destroy Israel because the Israelis disobey The Law. Most Israelis are secular-minded and irreligious, many violate The Sabbath, fornicate and condone homosexuality. Some Israelis even eat pork. These, and other sinful actions by the Israelis incur the wrath of GOD. Also, the mistreatment of the Palestinians angers GOD. One would think that Ashkenazi (European) Jews would be particularly sensitive to violating peoples human rights, but evidently they (Ashkenazi Jews) do not speak out about the inhumanly brutal way that the Arabs are treated by the Israeli government. After all, it is the suffering of the Jews of Europe at the hands of the Nazis that is the cause of Palestinian troubles. It is hard to understand why the Palestinians have to suffer because of the crimes of the Nazis. A part of Germany should have been given to the Jews as a homeland instead of Arab Palestine. In the Middle East there must be justice for the people of Palestine. If there is no justice there will be no peace. GOD will not allow the Israelis to live in peace with their Arab neighbors unless they repent to GOD and obey The Law. All over the world an Islamic revolution is taking place. The hearts and minds of the Muslims are breaking the shackles of colonialism. Brave Islamic warriors are standing up to the Occidental forces of racialism and economic oppression. Last year (The Party of GOD/Hezbullah) and today (Fatah ul-Islam) in Lebanon; right now in Afghanistan and Iraq, the neo-Crusaders, the Zionists and their proxies have been defeated, or are now suffering military losses to the brave Muslim fighters. The Afghanis and the Iraqis are proud peoples who refuse to be subjugated by any infidel invaders. Soon the Crucifixers will be forced into an humiliating and shameful retreat. The Occidental minions of Satan will be expelled from all Islamic lands and seas. U.S. President George W. Bush’s neo-Crusader War on Islam is proving to be a terrible waste of human lives and money. Islam is the only obstacle preventing the Occidentals and their bastard child Israel from economic and social domination of the world. Hence Islam must be destroyed! But The Light of Islam will never be extinguished. Islam is the fastest growing religion on earth. Muslims around the world are turning away from the devilish ideologies, philosophies and schisms of the West and seeking answers and guidance in the teachings of The Holy Qur’an and the example of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him and mercy to his family). Muslim populations are growing much faster than any other faith. The heroic Egyptian martyr, Lieutenant Colonel Khalid al Islambuli said it best, “ISLAM FOR THE WORLD!”

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