Comments on: The Muslim Network for Baha’i Rights http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/ Promoting a fierce but respectful dialogue among the highly diverse youth of the Middle East Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:12:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: y.achmad al hajhttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-219266 y.achmad al haj Sun, 28 Sep 2008 07:23:23 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-219266 how to claim Human right I propose an Idea, to built new World organization UPO like UNO=United Nation Organization, which UPO mean United People Organization, the whole people inthe world not base on the politic interrest such as West or East, how to fight for implementing Human right: 1)Right to have Better life, like in Iraq war after American Invassion the life in Iraq was very bad, the whole people of the world support Iraq people to get the facility condition like previously, enough electrical,water, Oil/energy for their daily life, all infra structure that broken by align troop/American troop should be rebuilt by agressor and agressor cost, because the Iraq people and Saddam Goverment have no wrong, the UN did not find Mass destructive weapons,Not involve to Alqaeda Group which attack US on Sept.11.2001, if Saddam was wrong but not with the Iraqi people, saddam has finalty and Hang by US, he has pay his sin and InsyaAllah he was in Jannah, but now what's wrong with the people should to face hard and difficulties, what's the moral of US,Europe, and others countries who support US ianvasion into Iraq, if they left or out from Iraq with all the broken, they always say for Human right but now what's about Iraq people, they must responsible for reconditioning Iraq countries, return all their asset that has been stolen as in the name of war. how many artefak or others Iraq culture moseum has loose, US should responsible if untill the last Bush government with out statement to resposible to Iraq UPO will declare that Bush was a war crime with all criminal along his presidential periode. I invite all the organization to declare an UPO, an organization possible to be pressure group in peace to claim the Human right for war victims, Government Corruption, Racialist, and colonialism like Israel to Palestine people, Saddam, Arafat, Gammal Abdul Nasser,Anwar Saddat who has done everything until his end of life to fight how the people has human wright. I am waiting the man with his great personality to built and declare UPO as new organization for the people to have the life normal, the government or the people who responsible to spoilt their life with out any compensation and recondition is Criminal, should declare to UNO formally and UNO shoult accepted this due pressureized by UPO with all real fact of what was happen. I hope and I am sure the whole people with the bad life as a vistims of ambision of wrong accuse should protect and to be fight until all the bad condition is rebuilt as compensation, this Idea to avoid any power is used to do a crazy Idea into unsin people by super power. Salamulaikum y.achmad thing how to claim Human right
I propose an Idea, to built new World organization UPO like UNO=United Nation Organization, which UPO mean United People Organization, the whole people inthe world not base on the politic interrest such as West or East, how to fight for implementing Human right:
1)Right to have Better life, like in Iraq war after American Invassion the life in Iraq was very bad, the whole people of the world support Iraq people to get the facility condition like previously, enough electrical,water, Oil/energy for their daily life, all infra structure that broken by align troop/American troop should be rebuilt by agressor and agressor cost, because the Iraq people and Saddam Goverment have no wrong, the UN did not find Mass destructive weapons,Not involve to Alqaeda Group which attack US on Sept.11.2001, if Saddam was wrong but not with the Iraqi people, saddam has finalty and Hang by US, he has pay his sin and InsyaAllah he was in Jannah, but now what’s wrong with the people should to face hard and difficulties, what’s the moral of US,Europe, and others countries who support US ianvasion into Iraq, if they left or out from Iraq with all the broken, they always say for Human right but now what’s about Iraq people, they must responsible for reconditioning Iraq countries, return all their asset that has been stolen as in the name of war. how many artefak or others Iraq culture moseum has loose, US should responsible if untill the last Bush government with out statement to resposible to Iraq UPO will declare that Bush was a war crime with all criminal along his presidential periode.
I invite all the organization to declare an UPO, an organization possible to be pressure group in peace to claim the Human right for war victims, Government Corruption, Racialist, and colonialism like Israel to Palestine people, Saddam, Arafat, Gammal Abdul Nasser,Anwar Saddat who has done everything until his end of life to fight how the people has human wright.
I am waiting the man with his great personality to built and declare UPO as new organization for the people to have the life normal, the government or the people who responsible to spoilt their life with out any compensation and recondition is Criminal, should declare to UNO formally and UNO shoult accepted this due pressureized by UPO with all real fact of what was happen.
I hope and I am sure the whole people with the bad life as a vistims of ambision of wrong accuse should protect and to be fight until all the bad condition is rebuilt as compensation, this Idea to avoid any power is used to do a crazy Idea into unsin people by super power.
Salamulaikum
y.achmad
thing

]]> By: mercyhttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-187347 mercy Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:49:57 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-187347 Hearing your statement of reason for this action made me want to cry, you are truly beautiful souls. My God bless every step you take.YA BAHA'U'L ABHA Hearing your statement of reason for this action made me want to cry, you are truly beautiful souls. My God bless every step you take.

YA BAHA’U'L ABHA

]]> By: Gabrielhttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-186949 Gabriel Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:00:36 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-186949 Dear Sirs:As a Citizen of the world, for first time I can see that the Islamic Republic es the contry that should be, the tolerance is a stage that countries must promove not only because there is Human Rights but improve the concept about that contry, Congratulations!!! Dear Sirs:

As a Citizen of the world, for first time I can see that the Islamic Republic es the contry that should be, the tolerance is a stage that countries must promove not only because there is Human Rights but improve the concept about that contry, Congratulations!!!

]]> By: Mr. D. L. Dronghttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-186759 Mr. D. L. Drong Mon, 18 Aug 2008 03:42:22 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-186759 How can I say thank you? From around and amidst our persecutors arise noble souls who recognize injustice and are willing to put themselves at risk to stand up for the Baha'is. How can I say thank you?How can I say thank you that brethren who are Moslem give voice to compassion and understanding toward Baha'is in the face of the determination of many who would crush us down? How can I say thank you?How can I say thank you when disciples of Muhammed (Peace Be Upon Him) inspired by the Koran speak up in the principles of justice that holy book expounds directly in the face of injustice incarnate? How can I say thank you?How can I say thank you for a candle lit by Moslem hands placed beside a long burning candle of Baha'i to push against the darkness and illumine our age? How can I say thank you?How can I say thank you that regardless of our independent paths unto God, you rise to stand beside your Baha'i brethren in spirit, God's most holy spirit, that draws each of us ever closer to God Almighty and to each other. How can I thank you?I only can submit my petition unto God, for such thanks are beyond me, and only He can convey gratitude so profoundly, so perfectly. Please, God, convey to these noble faithful the thanks I am too impotent to say.Ll. How can I say thank you? From around and amidst our persecutors arise noble souls who recognize injustice and are willing to put themselves at risk to stand up for the Baha’is. How can I say thank you?

How can I say thank you that brethren who are Moslem give voice to compassion and understanding toward Baha’is in the face of the determination of many who would crush us down? How can I say thank you?

How can I say thank you when disciples of Muhammed (Peace Be Upon Him) inspired by the Koran speak up in the principles of justice that holy book expounds directly in the face of injustice incarnate? How can I say thank you?

How can I say thank you for a candle lit by Moslem hands placed beside a long burning candle of Baha’i to push against the darkness and illumine our age? How can I say thank you?

How can I say thank you that regardless of our independent paths unto God, you rise to stand beside your Baha’i brethren in spirit, God’s most holy spirit, that draws each of us ever closer to God Almighty and to each other. How can I thank you?

I only can submit my petition unto God, for such thanks are beyond me, and only He can convey gratitude so profoundly, so perfectly. Please, God, convey to these noble faithful the thanks I am too impotent to say.

Ll.

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I didn’t agree with you first, but last paragraph makes sense for me…

]]> By: Farhad F.http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-79658 Farhad F. Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:11:11 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-79658 Dear sir,thank you for your effort in bringing plight of Baha'is to world attention. I am a Baha'i living in UK, and have been in UK since leaving Iran in 1979. I am also a member of UNA (United Nations Association), which is an agency of the UN.As you are aware the Islamic revolution in Iran made significant changes in Iranian laws, which adversely affected many minority religious groups. The Baha'is were particularly targeted as they formed the largest minority religion after Islam. The subsequent years of Iranian revolution proved fatal to many in Baha'i community, who lost their homes, family and the hundreds who lost their lives at the hand of the clergy. List of victims and crimes perpetrated against this community are available from any of the many human right organisations.However, as Baha'u'llah taught forbearance and patience, the best solution against such crimes of ignorance, is education.It is clear to any observer that the ideals, which are most lacking in Iran (and for this matter in most oppressive regimes) are values, which are held in highest regards in the free world. Values such as democracy, freedom/independance of media, freedom of belief and religious practices, equality of men and women, education for all, freedom of thought, promotion of free discussion and consultation.Organisations such as UN and associated agencies promote such values and are there to provide guidelines for development of such values in any country. In most cases if a country is prepared to develop these values, there are hundreds of studies, which can provide templates for development, and implementation of laws and practices leading to development of the country.Alas some regimes fail to recognise the benefits of these values and hold onto relics of the past. Such regimes inevitably impose economic and social deprivation on their own people. One who ignores history is doomed to repeat its mistakes. History has proved that inevitably such ideologies fail.As a Baha’i and member of UNA, I endeavour to promote cooperation, collaboration, oneness and unity of all human kind. So we all recognise that we are members of one human race, with one God, who created us all equal. We are all responsible for the world we live in and we all have a responsibility towards it, towards each other, and towards future generations. In the words of Baha’u’llah, we are all fruits of one tree and drops in one sea.Thank you for your efforts in promoting understanding and your stance for human rights.Farhad. Dear sir,

thank you for your effort in bringing plight of Baha’is to world attention. I am a Baha’i living in UK, and have been in UK since leaving Iran in 1979. I am also a member of UNA (United Nations Association), which is an agency of the UN.

As you are aware the Islamic revolution in Iran made significant changes in Iranian laws, which adversely affected many minority religious groups. The Baha’is were particularly targeted as they formed the largest minority religion after Islam. The subsequent years of Iranian revolution proved fatal to many in Baha’i community, who lost their homes, family and the hundreds who lost their lives at the hand of the clergy. List of victims and crimes perpetrated against this community are available from any of the many human right organisations.

However, as Baha’u'llah taught forbearance and patience, the best solution against such crimes of ignorance, is education.

It is clear to any observer that the ideals, which are most lacking in Iran (and for this matter in most oppressive regimes) are values, which are held in highest regards in the free world. Values such as democracy, freedom/independance of media, freedom of belief and religious practices, equality of men and women, education for all, freedom of thought, promotion of free discussion and consultation.

Organisations such as UN and associated agencies promote such values and are there to provide guidelines for development of such values in any country. In most cases if a country is prepared to develop these values, there are hundreds of studies, which can provide templates for development, and implementation of laws and practices leading to development of the country.

Alas some regimes fail to recognise the benefits of these values and hold onto relics of the past. Such regimes inevitably impose economic and social deprivation on their own people. One who ignores history is doomed to repeat its mistakes. History has proved that inevitably such ideologies fail.

As a Baha’i and member of UNA, I endeavour to promote cooperation, collaboration, oneness and unity of all human kind. So we all recognise that we are members of one human race, with one God, who created us all equal. We are all responsible for the world we live in and we all have a responsibility towards it, towards each other, and towards future generations. In the words of Baha’u’llah, we are all fruits of one tree and drops in one sea.

Thank you for your efforts in promoting understanding and your stance for human rights.

Farhad.

]]> By: Carolyn Nhttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-79645 Carolyn N Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:09:13 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-79645 What a pity that this wonderful, pure-hearted initiative is being sullied by some people who turn up in various forums with deliberately distorted and misleading information.This in turn is prompting the Baha'is to 'fight pollution with dilution' so that we are in danger of dominating a forum on which we are mere guests.I hope you can view this beautiful 'YouTube' prepared for World Religion Day? http://youtube.com/watch?v=fpFvuGZteKo What a pity that this wonderful, pure-hearted initiative is being sullied by some people who turn up in various forums with deliberately distorted and misleading information.

This in turn is prompting the Baha’is to ‘fight pollution with dilution’ so that we are in danger of dominating a forum on which we are mere guests.

I hope you can view this beautiful ‘YouTube’ prepared for World Religion Day?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fpFvuGZteKo

]]> By: Susan Maneckhttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-79595 Susan Maneck Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:24:47 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-79595 Dear Raj,Does it bother you that the Bab only gradually revealed His true station. If you read the Gospels you will see that the same thing was true about Jesus. When His disciples came to recognize who He was, at first He told them not to spread it around. Likewise, according to the Qur'an Abraham first represented Himself as a star-worshipper, then a moon-worshipper, then a sun-worshipper. Thus He gradually let people to understand the Oneness of God.warmest, Susan Dear Raj,

Does it bother you that the Bab only gradually revealed His true station. If you read the Gospels you will see that the same thing was true about Jesus. When His disciples came to recognize who He was, at first He told them not to spread it around. Likewise, according to the Qur’an Abraham first represented Himself as a star-worshipper, then a moon-worshipper, then a sun-worshipper. Thus He gradually let people to understand the Oneness of God.

warmest, Susan

]]> By: Omid D.http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-79589 Omid D. Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:28:30 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-79589 You guys are awesome. You guys are awesome.

]]> By: Dianne Andreahttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-66890 Dianne Andrea Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:08:14 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-66890 Yes, and he has explained the reason for this in his books. He writes that he gradually revealed his claims so that he could gradually prepare people for them.I expect he anticipated the prejudice, close-mindedness and violence that assailed him and continues to assail the Baha'is Faith down to the present time.Raj said- > Baha proclaimed first to >be Imam Mahdi than Prophet and than God.Baha'u'llah did not claim to be any of these.His claim was to be a Manifestation of God.>Read Dawn Breaker, God Passes by, >Qayyoom al Asma etc for your references. and fear the Almighty.Clearly the writer has not read these books otherwise he would not be writing this. Raj said >Besides the work of Mahdi is to fill the Earth with equity and Justice. >This was done neither by Bab or Baha or any other Pseudo Mahdi. In fact >this proves that they are Pseudoes.On the contrary, the administrative system established by Baha'u'llah provides for Houses of Justice to be set up in every locality and there are currently over 12,000 of these around the world. So the world has quite literally been filled with justice.For the present, they are for legal reasons and to avoid misunderstanding called spiritual assemblies but their true name which will be used in the future is House of Justice. They are a place to which everyone - Baha'i or not - can go to seek guidance and justice. Yes, and he has explained the reason for this in his books. He writes that he gradually revealed his claims so that he could gradually prepare people for them.

I expect he anticipated the prejudice, close-mindedness and violence that assailed him and continues to assail the Baha’is Faith down to the present time.

Raj said-
> Baha proclaimed first to
>be Imam Mahdi than Prophet and than God.

Baha’u'llah did not claim to be any of these.

His claim was to be a Manifestation of God.

>Read Dawn Breaker, God Passes by,
>Qayyoom al Asma etc for your references. and fear the Almighty.

Clearly the writer has not read these books otherwise he would not be writing this.
Raj said
>Besides the work of Mahdi is to fill the Earth with equity and Justice.
>This was done neither by Bab or Baha or any other Pseudo Mahdi. In fact
>this proves that they are Pseudoes.

On the contrary, the administrative system established by Baha’u'llah provides for Houses of Justice to be set up in every locality and there are currently over 12,000 of these around the world. So the world has quite literally been filled with justice.

For the present, they are for legal reasons and to avoid misunderstanding called spiritual assemblies but their true name which will be used in the future is House of Justice. They are a place to which everyone – Baha’i or not – can go to seek guidance and justice.

]]> By: Susan Maneckhttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-66888 Susan Maneck Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:05:26 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-66888 What we have here is truth mixed with falsehood. It is true that the Bab only gradually revealed His station. The same was true with Jesus if you read the Gospels. He ordered His disciples to keep secret the fact He was the Messiah. Likewise, according to the Qur'an Abraham only gradually revealed His true message, at first making it appear He was an idol worshipper, a star worshipper, a moon worshipper and a sun worshipper. But to my knowledge Baha'u'llah never claimed to be the Imam Mahdi, that was the Bab's station. As for filling the world with equity and justice, be patient. Baha'u'llah has given us the blueprint but we still need to build it. Remember, the Jews rejected Jesus as the Messiah because they thought He was supposed to be a five-star general too. What we have here is truth mixed with falsehood. It is true that the Bab only gradually revealed His station. The same was true with Jesus if you read the Gospels. He ordered His disciples to keep secret the fact He was the Messiah. Likewise, according to the Qur’an Abraham only gradually revealed His true message, at first making it appear He was an idol worshipper, a star worshipper, a moon worshipper and a sun worshipper. But to my knowledge Baha’u'llah never claimed to be the Imam Mahdi, that was the Bab’s station. As for filling the world with equity and justice, be patient. Baha’u'llah has given us the blueprint but we still need to build it. Remember, the Jews rejected Jesus as the Messiah because they thought He was supposed to be a five-star general too.

]]> By: Omid T (Iran/USA)http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-66871 Omid T (Iran/USA) Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:18:06 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-66871 Raj his references are incorrect. The pages he references do not exist and he has been shown that. Would you like me to provide you the emails I have from him?You are clearly impassioned by trying to defend Islam. But, you are doing it the wrong way. Please go read those books that you mentioned and then come and talk to me. You might want to get the books from a Baha'i Bookstore--not Imran Sheikh who is seems not to be able to find actual pages in real books. Raj his references are incorrect. The pages he references do not exist and he has been shown that. Would you like me to provide you the emails I have from him?

You are clearly impassioned by trying to defend Islam. But, you are doing it the wrong way. Please go read those books that you mentioned and then come and talk to me. You might want to get the books from a Baha’i Bookstore–not Imran Sheikh who is seems not to be able to find actual pages in real books.

]]> By: Stevenhttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-66869 Steven Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:13:44 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-66869 Please *do* deviate from still bringing up Mr. Sheikh. I've known him for years and participated in several public discussions with him. He has convinced no one I have ever been in a discussion with and sometimes he has been bumped from participating on discussions moderated by non-Baha'is (even moderators unfriendly to Baha'is!) Please *do* deviate from still bringing up Mr. Sheikh. I’ve known him for years and participated in several public discussions with him. He has convinced no one I have ever been in a discussion with and sometimes he has been bumped from participating on discussions moderated by non-Baha’is (even moderators unfriendly to Baha’is!)

]]> By: Rajhttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-66862 Raj Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:32:10 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-66862 Please donot deviate by blaming Imran Sheikh, for he has brought from the Bahai Books such references which youll cannot disapprove.Bab claimed to be the door of Imam Mahdi first and then Imam Mahdi. Baha proclaimed first to be Imam Mahdi than Prophet and than God. Read Dawn Breaker, God Passes by, Qayyoom al Asma etc for your references. and fear the Almighty. Besides the work of Mahdi is to fill the Earth with equity and Justice. This was done neither by Bab or Baha or any other Pseudo Mahdi. In fact this proves that they are Pseudoes. Please donot deviate by blaming Imran Sheikh, for he has brought from the Bahai Books such references which youll cannot disapprove.Bab claimed to be the door of Imam Mahdi first and then Imam Mahdi. Baha proclaimed first to be Imam Mahdi than Prophet and than God. Read Dawn Breaker, God Passes by, Qayyoom al Asma etc for your references. and fear the Almighty.
Besides the work of Mahdi is to fill the Earth with equity and Justice. This was done neither by Bab or Baha or any other Pseudo Mahdi. In fact this proves that they are Pseudoes.

]]> By: Dianne Andreahttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-65615 Dianne Andrea Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:20:16 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-65615 SHOW FORTH LOVE TO ALL In every dispensation, there hath been the commandment of fellowship and love, but it was a commandment limited to the community of those in mutual agreement, not to the dissident foe. In this wondrous age, however, praised be God, the commandments of God are not delimited, not restricted to any one group of people, rather have all the friends been commanded to show forth fellowship and love, consideration and generosity and loving-kindness to every community on earth. Now must the lovers of God arise to carry out these instructions of His: let them be kindly fathers to the children of the human race, and compassionate brothers to the youth, and self-denying offspring to those bent with years. The meaning of this is that ye must show forth tenderness and love to every human being, even to your enemies, and welcome them all with unalloyed friendship, good cheer, and loving-kindness. ~ Abdu'l-Baha, Selections from the Writings of Abdu'l-Baha, p. 20 SHOW FORTH LOVE TO ALL
In every dispensation, there hath been the
commandment of fellowship and love, but it was
a commandment limited to the community of
those in mutual agreement, not to the dissident
foe. In this wondrous age, however, praised be
God, the commandments of God are not delimited,
not restricted to any one group of people, rather
have all the friends been commanded to show
forth fellowship and love, consideration and
generosity and loving-kindness to every community
on earth. Now must the lovers of God arise to
carry out these instructions of His: let them be
kindly fathers to the children of the human race,
and compassionate brothers to the youth, and
self-denying offspring to those bent with years.
The meaning of this is that ye must show forth
tenderness and love to every human being, even to
your enemies, and welcome them all with unalloyed
friendship, good cheer, and loving-kindness.

~ Abdu’l-Baha,
Selections from the Writings
of Abdu’l-Baha, p. 20

]]> By: Stevenhttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-65564 Steven Mon, 03 Sep 2007 04:20:44 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-65564 Here's some other kinds of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=baha%27i&search=Search" rel="nofollow">presentations</a> than arguments to consider both the diversity and tone of... Here’s some other kinds of presentations than arguments to consider both the diversity and tone of…

]]> By: Susan Maneckhttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-63954 Susan Maneck Mon, 27 Aug 2007 04:38:15 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-63954 Dear Raj,I'm afraid some of your information is confused. The Bab did attend a few of Siyyid Kazim Rashti's lectures but he was never in Karbila long enough to be considered his student. But it is true that Baha'is think very highly of Shaykh Ahmad Ahsa'i and Siyyid Kazim. The reason Baha'is do not celebrate the 15th of Shabaan is for the same reason we do not take Christian commumion. We don't take communion because the Apostle Paul said this should only be done until Christ returns. We believe that in the Bab and Baha'u'llah both the Imam Mahdi and Jesus Christ have appeared. (We see the Bab as the Imam Mahdi, not Baha'u'llah.) That may seem strange to you but it in no way indicates any antipathy towards Islam. A few years ago a gave a talk to the World Federation of Methodist Women. Here's the text of that talk. Decide for yourself whether or not have treated Islam justly:http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/msg/fdb514f2bbce3d99?dmode=source&hl=enAs for Baha'u'llah's treatment of his brother I'm not sure what you are referring to. After his half-brother tried to poison him, Baha'u'llah had nothing more to do with him. Does that strike you as strange? Dear Raj,

I’m afraid some of your information is confused. The Bab did attend a few of Siyyid Kazim Rashti’s lectures but he was never in Karbila long enough to be considered his student. But it is true that Baha’is think very highly of Shaykh Ahmad Ahsa’i and Siyyid Kazim. The reason Baha’is do not celebrate the 15th of Shabaan is for the same reason we do not take Christian commumion. We don’t take communion because the Apostle Paul said this should only be done until Christ returns. We believe that in the Bab and Baha’u'llah both the Imam Mahdi and Jesus Christ have appeared. (We see the Bab as the Imam Mahdi, not Baha’u'llah.) That may seem strange to you but it in no way indicates any antipathy towards Islam. A few years ago a gave a talk to the World Federation of Methodist Women. Here’s the text of that talk. Decide for yourself whether or not have treated Islam justly:

http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/msg/fdb514f2bbce3d99?dmode=source&hl=en

As for Baha’u'llah’s treatment of his brother I’m not sure what you are referring to. After his half-brother tried to poison him, Baha’u'llah had nothing more to do with him. Does that strike you as strange?

]]> By: Esra'ahttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-63860 Esra'a Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:33:28 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-63860 Imran isn't respectful at all. In our e-mail exchange, he consistently accused me of being a Baha'i, and that the <strong>Muslim</strong> Network for Baha'i Rights was a manipulative effort by Baha'is which he referred to as very "typical." I'm embarrassed to share a religion with such an abusive liar. What he portrays as Islam isn't Islam at all, like Omid said it's a religion of peace and it's out of love for our faith that we fight for the followers of other faiths, especially if they make every effort to stand up for Muslims and Islam. The Muslim network for Baha'i rights is the very least Muslims can do to support a peaceful minority who did nothing but stand up for us.I kindly asked Mr. Imran why he linked the Baha'i faith with Zionism and have yet to see a response from him. His "supportive letters" also claim that Muslims and Baha'is are enemies, which I don't understand. Baha'is speak very highly of Muslims and Islam, and are the first to clear up any misconceptions regarding our faith. Mr. Imran's site suggests nothing but hatred and attempts to create enemies between two peaceful religions, which is very cowardly and shameful. Imran isn’t respectful at all. In our e-mail exchange, he consistently accused me of being a Baha’i, and that the Muslim Network for Baha’i Rights was a manipulative effort by Baha’is which he referred to as very “typical.” I’m embarrassed to share a religion with such an abusive liar. What he portrays as Islam isn’t Islam at all, like Omid said it’s a religion of peace and it’s out of love for our faith that we fight for the followers of other faiths, especially if they make every effort to stand up for Muslims and Islam. The Muslim network for Baha’i rights is the very least Muslims can do to support a peaceful minority who did nothing but stand up for us.

I kindly asked Mr. Imran why he linked the Baha’i faith with Zionism and have yet to see a response from him. His “supportive letters” also claim that Muslims and Baha’is are enemies, which I don’t understand. Baha’is speak very highly of Muslims and Islam, and are the first to clear up any misconceptions regarding our faith. Mr. Imran’s site suggests nothing but hatred and attempts to create enemies between two peaceful religions, which is very cowardly and shameful.

]]> By: Omid T (Iran/USA)http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-63857 Omid T (Iran/USA) Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:08:16 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-63857 Raj,Im afraid you and Imran Shiekh are birds of the same feather. You are using deception and frankly lying. I had a debate with Imran Shiekh a few months back that showed indeed his web site was FULL of errors and inaccuracies. Did he admit he was wrong? No. I have the whole thing archived if you want to read it.Instead of bashing the Baha'i Faith, why don't you talk about the divinity of Islam. There is a lot of people out their who still have a wrong idea about it. Baha'is dont. We Believe in Muhammad (PBUH). We know the Quran is from God and we consider Islam a religion of peace.It is the slander you and people like you spew that brings a bad image to Islam. Do you have peace in your heart or hate?Regarding the relationship of Baha'u'llah and his half brother. Anyone can read about that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%A1%27%C3%AD/B%C3%A1b%C3%AD_split" rel="nofollow">here</a>.Baha'u'llah never claimed to be Imam Mehdi. Raj,

Im afraid you and Imran Shiekh are birds of the same feather. You are using deception and frankly lying. I had a debate with Imran Shiekh a few months back that showed indeed his web site was FULL of errors and inaccuracies. Did he admit he was wrong? No. I have the whole thing archived if you want to read it.

Instead of bashing the Baha’i Faith, why don’t you talk about the divinity of Islam. There is a lot of people out their who still have a wrong idea about it. Baha’is dont. We Believe in Muhammad (PBUH). We know the Quran is from God and we consider Islam a religion of peace.

It is the slander you and people like you spew that brings a bad image to Islam. Do you have peace in your heart or hate?

Regarding the relationship of Baha’u'llah and his half brother. Anyone can read about that here.

Baha’u'llah never claimed to be Imam Mehdi.

]]> By: Dianne Andreahttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-63834 Dianne Andrea Sun, 26 Aug 2007 13:01:01 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-63834 Take a look at this abiut the Bab http://ahang.rabbani.googlepages.com/ Take a look at this abiut the Bab http://ahang.rabbani.googlepages.com/

]]> By: Dianne Andreahttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-63833 Dianne Andrea Sun, 26 Aug 2007 13:00:19 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-63833 http://ahang.rabbani.googlepages.com/ http://ahang.rabbani.googlepages.com/

]]> By: Rajhttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-63632 Raj Sat, 25 Aug 2007 03:50:00 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-63632 Mr.Steven, If what you say about Imam Mahdi is true than why do you forsake him. How come he was there and baha also claimed to be Imam Mahdi.Or Which Mahdi do you believe in Mahdi e Jaunpuri or Mahdi e Sudani. Mr.Steven, If what you say about Imam Mahdi is true than why do you forsake him. How come he was there and baha also claimed to be Imam Mahdi.Or Which Mahdi do you believe in Mahdi e Jaunpuri or Mahdi e Sudani.

]]> By: Rajhttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-63631 Raj Sat, 25 Aug 2007 03:47:04 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-63631 If the Bahais claim to be truthful I implore them to tell the fact. What was the Behaviour of Baha towards his brother?.I have the facts so please do not lie as I will reveal them only after I hear from you`ll. If the Bahais claim to be truthful I implore them to tell the fact. What was the Behaviour of Baha towards his brother?.I have the facts so please do not lie as I will reveal them only after I hear from you`ll.

]]> By: Stevenhttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-63343 Steven Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:00:35 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-63343 Not true at all - our religion has clear teachings about who Imam Mahdi is and when His birthday is, as is our affirmation of Allah, His Word, and His Prophets, peace be upon them. Not true at all – our religion has clear teachings about who Imam Mahdi is and when His birthday is, as is our affirmation of Allah, His Word, and His Prophets, peace be upon them.

]]> By: Rajhttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-63311 Raj Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:33:52 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/01/the-muslim-network-for-bahai-rights/#comment-63311 It is very interesting to know that the Bahai faith originated from Sheikhism. Bab was the student of Sayed Kazim, and he was the student of Sheikh Ahsai. They all believed to be the door of Hazrat Mahdi whose birthday falls on the 15th of Shabaan. Yet the Bahais dont celeberate it at all. Is it because they hate muslims or are scared to mention Imam Mahdi. It is very interesting to know that the Bahai faith originated from Sheikhism. Bab was the student of Sayed Kazim, and he was the student of Sheikh Ahsai.
They all believed to be the door of Hazrat Mahdi whose birthday falls on the 15th of Shabaan. Yet the Bahais dont celeberate it at all. Is it because they hate muslims or are scared to mention Imam Mahdi.

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