Britain’s Terrorist Plot
July 2nd, 2007It needs no introduction. It’s all over the news. And guess who did it? The Irish! Oh yes, it was them, believe me, “we” had absolutely nothing to do with it. Bleh.
It’s sickening what those filthy butchers are trying to inflect upon innocent people. But what sickens me even more is how too many Muslims are in denial that we have a major major problem. “Oh it must be the Jooooz!” they proclaim. Don’t let me forget the other retards like far-leftist Alex Jones who simply help reinforce the denial syndrome too many Muslims suffer from. We need more of the Sabir types.
Of course, the overwhelming majority of Muslims are not terrorists, nor are all terrorists Muslim. But we’d be kidding ourselves if we claimed that a disproportionate number of terrorists aren’t Muslim or that the most destructive and deadly terrorist attacks aren’t perpetrated by Muslims fighting under the banner of Islam. Furthermore, terrorism is but an extreme manifestation of a rejectionist mentality that is all too common amongst Muslims. Though few Muslims attempt to justify terrorist attacks, many steadfastly deny that Muslims were ultimately responsible, attributing them to elaborate conspiracy theories in which the Muslim hijackers/bombers were unwitting pawns in a grand plot directed by America/Israel/India/Freemasons. Even if such views are to be taken at face value, their advocates seem disturbingly unconcerned about the propensity of Muslims to be brainwashed and unwittingly recruited into shadowy non-Muslim conspiracies.
Read it all here.
Too often I come across those 2 types of Muslims, the terrorist supporters and the ones in denial. The ones in denial are drowned in victimhood. As for the ones who support the Bin Laden types, they’re just blinded by anger and pure hatred. I know a few people who fit that category and I remember debating with them recently. They were still persistent in their support of Bin Laden. I then asked them a few simple questions. “What kind of life do you think you and your sisters will have once those people are in power and ruling over us? What kind of harsh Sharia do you think they’ll be shoving down our throats? If I rewind back time, would you like to live under the Taliban in Afghanistan?” … and suddenly… silence.
(hat tip for picture: Umar Lee)
Anger and hatred are powerful intoxicants. I fear we won’t wake up until it’s too late. This cancer is spreading too fast within our Muslim communities.
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Fascinating blog. I had a recent run-in with an Alex Jones follower recently… While I’m no big fan of fellow Americans who dismiss all Muslims as terrorists, Alex Jones’s propaganda gets under my skin just as much. Glad to see people doing what you’re doing. Keep it up.
Stewart as a Muslim, let me tell you that the far-right bugs me coz of their “all Muslims are terrorists, Islam is evil” crap and the far-left is just as annoying with their loony conspiracy theories that reinforce ours.
It seems that conspiracy theories tend to reinforce each other until everyone’s in SOME form of conspiracy, doesn’t it? My school is a far-right college which tends to speak categorically about Muslims, decrying them as the bane of the earth. When they bring up jihad, I bring the crusades. But again, I really respect what you’re doing.
Thanks
“My school is a far-right college which tends to speak categorically about Muslims, decrying them as the bane of the earth.”
Just remind them that the majority of victims of Muslims extremist acts of violence are Muslims themselves!
Btw, you can tell some of them about me or MEY you know. LOL. It should be fun!
Heh… I think I will.
Something is seriously wrong with British Muslims, obviously.
It is easier to live in denial than to accept reality.
Jones is not a far leftist, I challenge you to point to one example of a position held by Alex Jones which could be characterized as leftist. He is anti-immigration and abortion, very religious and gun-oriented, you really are talking out of your backside.
Not a good start on your part, but then the best part is that you *all* are calling conspiracy “theories” crazy without saying why. Why?
They are true. JFK was killed by the shadow gov’t, his brother was killed by the same, so was MLK. Get ready. The same shadow gov’t carried out the September 11th attacks! Get over it! It’s not even that controversial anymore. People, please don’t seriously believe that you can fly airplanes all over the USA without military intercept. I lived in NYC 10 years and I don’t mind flagging myself again for the NSA ghouls who are watching you blog just because you are arabs, or muslims, or whatever bogus construction you want to self-categorize with! The “official” (CBS NBC ABC FOX NY TIMES WSJ) story of September 11th STINKS LIKE A DIRTY DIAPER. If you cannot let go of the left-right paradigm and the “blowback” narrative of Sept 11 attacks you are IN BIG TROUBLE because you are arguing a bunch of BS by sweeping aside “loonies” with a careless hand. why don’t you go to http://www.911weknow.com and watch the movie found there, take two and call me in the morning. Time to wake up little self-satisfied ones.
I don’t know about other people, but I’ve read and watched tons of Alex Jones’s material. It feels like Loch Ness monster footage. Everyone once in a while he has something worth listening to, but generally he tries to make everything into an elaborate conspiracy theory without any proof.
A conspiracy theorist is the one who owes an explanation, not the people who say he’s crazy. The burden of proof is on his side, and will probably remain there.
Conspiracy theorists are usually great narcissists. And narcissism is, psychologically speaking, the one single neurosis that can never be cured, since that kind of neurosis cannot entertain the possibility of other independent viewpoints. It would invalidate the narcissist’s conviction that they are always valid.
So how to deal with conspiracy theorists? The same – and only – way narcissists can be dealt with: you leave them alone. Naturally they’ll continue their lives immersed with their theories, but we should never think that there could have ever been a chance to try to dissuade them otherwise.
Ben, alright fine, Alex Jones might not be a typical far-leftist, but he’s still someone farting loony conspiracy theories out of his ass.
Ad hominem attacks and ignorance is all you can expect from the upstanding brainwashed. You see, once I have poked holes in the official narrative – WTC 7, the lack of any photographic evidence of a plane from the state of the art cameras at the pentagon, the confiscation of cameras from all around the pentagon (hotels and gas stations) the assumption by Cheney of air command over the generals in the first months of 2001 – you must see how the ‘burden of proof’ wouldn’t quite be on ‘my side’ ( a ridiculous dichotomous expression) totally and completely? That over a dozen countries knew it was going to happen? Now, I don’t know everything, but at least I know that and admit it. You believe Seymour Hersh and Noam Chomsky and Amy Goodman. You like TV and American Idol and detergent commercials leave you feeling cozy. You spend a couple years lurking around some campus and think you’re a mental all-star. And as far as narcissists are concerned, let me ask you which of the following murders were really and truly planned and committed by “lone loser nuts” with sexual hangups and lots of juicy baggage? JFK? MLK? RFK? Fred Hampton? John Lennon? Do you know anything about the history of this country? Do you know what MK-Ultra is? How about Mena Arkansas and Jackson Stevens? Hmm, getting a little out of your depth I’m sure. The point is I don’t mention this to be right, or to win, or to even convince you. But there are people, not many of us, who are going to call bullshit on you if you say that saudi hijackers, paying in cash for one way tickets, attracted no attention and then pulled off a military operation of such huge scope with nary a hitch. I happen to think if you’re so self-satisfied, Finn, that you can disregard “alternative hypotheses” let’s call them, and then please, by all means leave me alone. I don’t trust Alex Jones, in the same way that I am leery of Michael Moore, after all what chance do we really have of breaking the stranglehold of for profit healthcare? C’mon. I do like Alex Constantine and Mae Brussell. And truthdig is pretty good. Counterpunch is totally controlled. Cockburn is full of it, many good articles over the years and full of it nonetheless.
You are determined to be adversarial so have it your way- but be careful not to argue just for the exercise, because if you don’t know the items I just mentioned your time would be better spent knowing what Mena is and why it matters. Or else all the new yorker articles in the world are not going to help. You realize that the New York Times has huge ads for diamonds and shoes and plastic and gasoline companies because those companies want to move their products, right?
Do you realize that 2 point 3 Trillion dollars was announced missing from the Pentagon the tenth of September, 2001? I don’t really expect you to back down now, with your egos inflamed like this- but consider easing up on bashing “conspiracy loons”- we’re not really the problem, now are we? Michael Savage has far more influence that all the loons COMBINED with the “lefty” fossils mentioned above! Laying the woes of this country, this world, or of your percieved community at our (ok I admit it, there is nothing you could say to change my mind – happy? That’s called knowing something to be true) feet is mean spirited and short sighted. Again, look up ad hominem, avoid it if you have any pretenses to productive discourse, and I’ll check you later.
Happy 4th of July
You’re kidding, aren’t you? “Egos inflamed”? C’mon, kid. What you gave was a windy rant calling people brainwashed idiots. Look up ad hominem and avoid it if you have any pretenses to productive discourse.
Very original, avoid the points made and attack the messenger! Very original, use my sentence! Can you make your own? You’re the adult, right?
Glad to see you guys trying to mitigate these psychos. All told, Islam isn’t looking too good:
The Truth About Islam
http://islamwatchers.blogspot.com