Assyrian Report on CWN
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Andre,
Yeshar Koach my friend. I’ve been reading some of your previous posts, and applaud you for bringing attention to the problem Iraq’s Christian community is facing.
However, I want to tell you that I fear that the worst is yet to come. I am 1/2 Iraqi; my family was expelled from Iraq in 1951 after living there for God knows how long. They were part of the Jewish community that were your neighbors for generations. My fear is that I see a resemblance between the attacks on Iraqi Christians today and the attacks on Iraqi Jews during WWII in a show of solidarity with the Nazis . After Israel was created, things got even worse as my grandfather was jailed for a year. And then 1 day, the entire Jewish community was expelled.
No one in the world said anything, I don’t think most of them thought of it as a crime. In fact, I’ve read that Christians have been slowly driven out of other countried in the Middle East in the last 60 years, but at a very slow rate. My suspicion is that when the US will withdraw – and this day is getting closer and closer – a similar fate will happen to the Iraqi Christian community as happened to my family. Best of luck to you bringing awareness of this issue to the world.
Thanks levylevthuglife!
But I don’t believe that we will be completely kicked out of Iraq, like our former residents (the Jews), because we have activists in the U.S. pleading the United States government for saftey and aid for Assyrians and all other Iraqies from terrorists.
I actually knew about what happened to the Jews living in Iraq after the Israel State was established, they were all kicked out by the Ba’athist Party that was in control. It’s very sad to see people that haven’t done anything be kicked out, this only shows you how unfair life can be!!
Hopefully all well be good in Iraq soon!!!!!
levylevthuglife and Andre Slewa,
Israel played a role in convincing the United States in invading Iraq by providing false evidence against Iraq.
Back in the 1940′s and 1950’s Britain and Israel played a role in having Jews leave Iraq.
There is a book written by an Iraqi Jew, his name is Naeim Giladi and his book is called Ben-Gurion’s Scandals How the Haganah and the Mossad Eliminated Jews. Here is an article that summarizes the book http://www.bintjbeil.com/E/occupation/ameu_iraqjews.html
Just to quote parts of the article
I think that only by the assyrians arming themselves in self defense and establishing a defacto area for themselves will help.
I don’t believe that will help Fernando, I mean we are peaceful minority that can’t fight anyone because of our religion, you see. Plus think about who we would have to fight to gain our natural homeland under our full control, the Kurdish, Turkish, or maybe Iranians..
we don’t want another million of our indigenous people to be massacred by the hands of both Turks and Kurds again just like during WWI.
But, it would be great if we could have our own province in Iraq for our protection.
Andre Slewa Wrote:
… we are peaceful minority that can’t fight anyone because of our religion…
What religion is that? Christianity? Christians have been fighting for centuries. Millions in Iraq have died due to the miliary actons of Western Christian coutries. The region that currently has had the most killings is the Christian country of Congo.
Christianity did not originate with the Assyrians. Why have they adopted a foreign religion? Why aren’t the Assyrians practicing the religion that existed before Christianity?
First of all,
Christianity has been fighting until the Reformation, I mean they were fighting because of Religion: Catholic faith getting rid of Paganism, Protestant Vs. Catholicism, and so on, but this fighting was mostly because of land, who is more land hungry and like I explained the spread of religion.
After the Reformation (the Reformation was during the 16th Century), the gov. kind of separated the Church and State, so the countries gov. would fight with other nations because of political issues not for religion, as it is today.
You see this difference between the Muslims and Christians is that Muslims fight because of their religion, well most of them, and the Christian countries of today fight for political issues, like America overthrowing the dictator Saddam.
So yea, that’s why many Muslims like you, If you are Muslim, see that the West is killing the Middle Eastern people because of religion, when it’s the other way around..
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Millions of Iraqies are dieing because of the Wests Christian countries, I don’t think you mean Iraqies, I think you mean Muslims, because you don’t care if the Christians, Yezidies, Medeans, ect. people die only if they Muslims, ok.
Anyway, most European people are not even religious in Christianity anymore as they once were, their not even fighting because of religion, as I just said.
plus, America isn’t killing people, America is HELPING THE PEOPLE! and if you’re from Iraq you’ll understand that. I mean think about it, Are all the deaths caused by America? do you see America going into peoples houses and killing everyone in there, no, that’s Al-Qaeda’s job.
THOSE DEATHS WERE CAUSED BY SUNNI AND SHI”A, FOREIGN COUNTRIES COMMING IN AN BLOWING UP THEMSELVES! FIGHTING, THEN THEY”RE SAYING THAT IT”S ALL AMERICANS FAULT! WHAT THE?? WHY FIGHT EACHOTHER? BECAUSE ONE IS MORE BROWNER THAN THE OTHER!!! NEARLY HALF THOSE DEATHS WEREN”T CAUSED BY AMERICANS BUT THOSE OTHER PEOPLE BLOWING THEMSELVES UP AND KILLING EACHOTHER!!
REMEMBER WHEN/STILL WHEN SOME SO CALLED MUSLIMS ATTACKED THE CHRISTIAN POEPLE IN BAGHDAD?!! WAS THAT CAUSED BY AMERICANS>> NOOOO BUT SHAITAN AL QAEDA! OR WHEN THE GOLDEN MOSQUE IN SAMARA FELL? WAS THAT CAUSED BY AMERICAN? NOOOO
OR WHEN JUST RECENTLY THE LION OF BASRA
“Christianity did not originate with the Assyrians. Why have they adopted a foreign religion? Why aren’t the Assyrians practicing the religion that existed before Christianity?”
I am going to answer what you said, but I don’t think you’ll care.
There is a story of how Assyrians were actully the first Christians as a nation/ province (since Rome controlled the land):
Kind Agbar Okooma was sick with leprosy, and the magicians with there cures and medicines didn’t work. So when the king had heard of a man who would heal the sick, he sent a letter to Jesus saying that if he would cure him, then he will believe Jesus is who he says his is. At that time, Jesus’s time was occupied, so he sent two of his apostles Thomas and Thaddeus with an image of himself on a handkerchief. After he was cured, the entire kingdom and the Assyrian (also Chaldean and Suryoyo) population converted into Christianity. Everyone including the animals fasted for three days, and 2000 years later, we still celebrate that day. Therfore, Assyrians were the first Christians as a nation.
lol I had to tell you this story.. even though I think you don’t care.
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Christianity isn’t a foreign religion, because it originated from the Middle East as Islam, except the religion came from Palastine/Isreal country while Islam is from Saudi.
Do you want us to practice worshiping statues?
What’s wrong with Christianity? have you noticed ever since problems in Iraq have started the Christians have never even lifted a finger in hurting anyone.
Andre Slewa,
Thank you for the information. The Armenians also claim to be the first Christian nation. I remeber reading (in a non-Arab source) that the first Christian King may have been an Arab.
You aske, “Do you want us to practice worshiping statues?”
You can find statues in churches.
You ask, “What’s wrong with Christianity?”
Nothing. What’s wrong with the religion that existed before Christianity?
Andre Slewa, you wrote “You see this difference between the Muslims and Christians is that Muslims fight because of their religion, well most of them, and the Christian countries of today fight for political issues, like America overthrowing the dictator Saddam.”
President George W. Bush said God told him to invade Iraq. The rest of the politicians went along wiht his plan because they want to control the oil wealth of Iraq. Saddam Hussein used to be a puppet/ally of the United States. The U.S. had supported Saddam, financially and strategically when he was committing his worst atrocities.
Ahh! my bad! I meant Assyrians were the first people to accept Jesus while Armenians were the first as a nation to do so, since Assyrians at didn’t have a nation but a Roman province.
DDD
Thanks so much for clearing my mistake!!!!!!
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yea, but we don’t worship the statues, lol Christians worship God/Allaha/Allah by the what’s written in the Bible. Similar to Muslims who follow the Quran. ;D
What’s wrong with the religion that existed before Christianity?
Well Ashurism, now extinct, was a religion focused on the Assyrian land which was then called the Holy Land. I don’t really know about that old religion a lot but I’m guessing it’s mainly focused on respecting ancient Assyrian kings like King Ashurbanipal who took control of all the middle east and Egypt.
lol yea.. there is really know point in looking back at Ashurism since the Assyrian Christians are more happy being Christians.. you see? It’s like the Iranian Persians, they used to be Zorastrain but today they are Muslims.. what’s wrong with their old religion? lol
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Oh yea you’re so right! America did help Saddam, but at that time America had trouble with it’s self, conflict by the Vietnam war the new pop culture, ect. left the country blind and unable to see the problems going on.
Bush said that? LOL people say weird things.. he must have just wanted to do it to get back at what Saddam tried to do to his dad.
See this about the claim that Saddam Hussein tried to kill George W. Bush’s father from http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul58.html
Claim: Iraq tried to assassinate President Bush in 1993.
Reality: It is far from certain that Iraq was behind the attack. News reports at the time were skeptical about Kuwaiti assertions that the attack was planned by Iraq against former President Bush. Following is an interesting quote from Seymore Hersh’s article from Nov. 1993:
Three years ago, during Iraq’s six-month occupation of Kuwait, there had been an outcry when a teen-age Kuwaiti girl testified eloquently and effectively before Congress about Iraqi atrocities involving newborn infants. The girl turned out to be the daughter of the Kuwaiti Ambassador to Washington, Sheikh Saud Nasir al-Sabah, and her account of Iraqi soldiers flinging babies out of incubators was challenged as exaggerated both by journalists and by human-rights groups. (Sheikh Saud was subsequently named Minister of Information in Kuwait, and he was the government official in charge of briefing the international press on the alleged assassination attempt against George Bush.) In a second incident, in August of 1991, Kuwait provoked a special session of the United Nations Security Council by claiming that twelve Iraqi vessels, including a speedboat, had been involved in an attempt to assault Bubiyan Island, long-disputed territory that was then under Kuwaiti control. The Security Council eventually concluded that, while the Iraqis had been provocative, there had been no Iraqi military raid, and that the Kuwaiti government knew there hadn’t. What did take place was nothing more than a smuggler-versus-smuggler dispute over war booty in a nearby demilitarized zone that had emerged, after the Gulf War, as an illegal marketplace for alcohol, ammunition, and livestock.
This establishes that on several occasions Kuwait has lied about the threat from Iraq. Hersh goes on to point out in the article numerous other times the Kuwaitis lied to the US and the UN about Iraq. Here is another good quote from Hersh:
At the very least, the case against Iraq for the alleged bomb threat is not conclusive.