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		<title>By: Ali Rizwan</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/17/what-is-really-execution-by-stoning/#comment-10578</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali Rizwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 00:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The man who posted this video is very ignorant, let me explain why. He said that this &quot;dumb law&quot; was around since the begginging of islam 1400 years ago but hes VERY wrong, This is what the bible says about stoning:
&quot;And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him.&quot; Leviticus 24:16

For adultery (including urban rape victims who fail to scream loud enough)

&quot;If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city.&quot; Deuteronomy 22:23-24</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The man who posted this video is very ignorant, let me explain why. He said that this &#8220;dumb law&#8221; was around since the begginging of islam 1400 years ago but hes VERY wrong, This is what the bible says about stoning:<br />
&#8220;And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him.&#8221; Leviticus 24:16</p>
<p>For adultery (including urban rape victims who fail to scream loud enough)</p>
<p>&#8220;If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city.&#8221; Deuteronomy 22:23-24</p>
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		<title>By: RandallJones</title>
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		<dc:creator>RandallJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 23:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Halim,

Zbigniew Brzezinski (United States National Security Advisor to President Jimmy Carter) has said


&lt;blockquote&gt;According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979.  But the reality, closely guarded until now, is completely otherwise:
Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul.  And that very day, I wrote a note to the
president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


&lt;blockquote&gt;That secret operation was an excellent idea.  It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it?  &lt;strong&gt;The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter, in substance: We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war.&lt;/strong&gt;
Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about
the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
from &lt;a href=&quot;http://members.aol.com/bblum6/brz.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://members.aol.com/bblum6/brz.htm&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Halim,</p>
<p>Zbigniew Brzezinski (United States National Security Advisor to President Jimmy Carter) has said</p>
<blockquote><p>According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979.  But the reality, closely guarded until now, is completely otherwise:<br />
Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul.  And that very day, I wrote a note to the<br />
president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>That secret operation was an excellent idea.  It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it?  <strong>The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter, in substance: We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war.</strong><br />
Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about<br />
the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.</p></blockquote>
<p>from <a href="http://members.aol.com/bblum6/brz.htm" rel="nofollow">http://members.aol.com/bblum6/brz.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: RandallJones</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/17/what-is-really-execution-by-stoning/#comment-10576</link>
		<dc:creator>RandallJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 23:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Halim look at one of the links you gave

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Women/RevolAfghanWomen.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Women/RevolAfghanWomen.html&lt;/a&gt;


&lt;blockquote&gt;The USSR invaded Afghanistan in 1979 and occupied the country throughout the 1980s. The CIA hired the Mujaheddin (soldiers of God) to expunge the Communists from Afghanistan. The Mujaheddin were trained by Pakistan&#039;s Interservices Intelligence Directorate, and funded and armed by the U.S., Saudi Arabia, Egypt, France, Britain, Israel, Iran, Japan, and China. The U.S. spent $5 billion to support the rebels during the 1980s, and used Osama bin Laden, then an ally of the U. S ., to help recruit non-Afghan Muslims to the Mujaheddin.


&lt;strong&gt;RAWA has pointed out that there were several democratic-minded groups the U.S. and other countries could have supported if they had wanted to drive out the Communists and help restore independence to Afghanistan. Why did these countries instead back the fundamentalist Mujaheddin? RAWA member Sajeda told Said lt magazine in August that pro-democracy groups would have refused to act as &quot;puppets&quot; for other countries, and would have made it difficult for those countries to &quot;maintain their economic and political interests in Afghanistan.&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Halim look at one of the links you gave</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Women/RevolAfghanWomen.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Women/RevolAfghanWomen.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The USSR invaded Afghanistan in 1979 and occupied the country throughout the 1980s. The CIA hired the Mujaheddin (soldiers of God) to expunge the Communists from Afghanistan. The Mujaheddin were trained by Pakistan&#8217;s Interservices Intelligence Directorate, and funded and armed by the U.S., Saudi Arabia, Egypt, France, Britain, Israel, Iran, Japan, and China. The U.S. spent $5 billion to support the rebels during the 1980s, and used Osama bin Laden, then an ally of the U. S ., to help recruit non-Afghan Muslims to the Mujaheddin.</p>
<p><strong>RAWA has pointed out that there were several democratic-minded groups the U.S. and other countries could have supported if they had wanted to drive out the Communists and help restore independence to Afghanistan. Why did these countries instead back the fundamentalist Mujaheddin? RAWA member Sajeda told Said lt magazine in August that pro-democracy groups would have refused to act as &#8220;puppets&#8221; for other countries, and would have made it difficult for those countries to &#8220;maintain their economic and political interests in Afghanistan.&#8221;</strong> </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: RandallJones</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/17/what-is-really-execution-by-stoning/#comment-10575</link>
		<dc:creator>RandallJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 23:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Halim wrote, &lt;em&gt;&quot;Show me a single statement by those courageous women convicting U.S. for the suffering of Afgan people.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Here is a  speech given by Malalai Joya, member of the Afghan Parliament, at the University of Los Angeles on Tuesday April 10, 2007.  But she doesn&#039;t get much Western media attention because she criticizes both the Taliban and U.S. military actions.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/04/12/468/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/04/12/468/&lt;/a&gt;

I&#039;ll quote part of it here:


&lt;blockquote&gt;Respected friends, over five years passed since the US-led attack on Afghanistan. Probably many of you are not well aware of the current conditions of my country and expect me to list the positive outcomes of the past years since the US invasion. But I am sorry to tell you that Afghanistan is still chained in the fetters of the fundamentalist warlords and is like an unconscious body taking its last breath.

The US government removed the ultra-reactionary and brutal regime of Taliban, but instead of relying on Afghan people, pushed us from the frying pan into the fire and selected its friends from among the most dirty and infamous criminals of the “Northern Alliance”, which is made up of the sworn enemies of democracy and human rights, and are as dark-minded, evil, and cruel as the Taliban.

The Western media talks about democracy and the liberation of Afghanistan, but the US and its allies are engaged in the warlordization, criminalization and drug-lordization of our wounded land.

Respected friends, over five years passed since the US-led attack on Afghanistan. Probably many of you are not well aware of the current conditions of my country and expect me to list the positive outcomes of the past years since the US invasion. But I am sorry to tell
you that Afghanistan is still chained in the fetters of the fundamentalist warlords and is like an unconscious body taking its last breath.

The US government removed the ultra-reactionary and brutal regime of Taliban, but instead of relying on Afghan people, pushed us from the frying pan into the fire and selected its friends from among the most dirty and infamous criminals of the “Northern Alliance”, which is made up of the sworn enemies of democracy and human rights, and are as dark-minded,
evil, and cruel as the Taliban.

The Western media talks about democracy and the liberation of Afghanistan, but the US and its allies are engaged in the warlordization, criminalization and drug-lordization of our wounded land.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Halim wrote, <em>&#8220;Show me a single statement by those courageous women convicting U.S. for the suffering of Afgan people.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Here is a  speech given by Malalai Joya, member of the Afghan Parliament, at the University of Los Angeles on Tuesday April 10, 2007.  But she doesn&#8217;t get much Western media attention because she criticizes both the Taliban and U.S. military actions.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/04/12/468/" rel="nofollow">http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/04/12/468/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll quote part of it here:</p>
<blockquote><p>Respected friends, over five years passed since the US-led attack on Afghanistan. Probably many of you are not well aware of the current conditions of my country and expect me to list the positive outcomes of the past years since the US invasion. But I am sorry to tell you that Afghanistan is still chained in the fetters of the fundamentalist warlords and is like an unconscious body taking its last breath.</p>
<p>The US government removed the ultra-reactionary and brutal regime of Taliban, but instead of relying on Afghan people, pushed us from the frying pan into the fire and selected its friends from among the most dirty and infamous criminals of the “Northern Alliance”, which is made up of the sworn enemies of democracy and human rights, and are as dark-minded, evil, and cruel as the Taliban.</p>
<p>The Western media talks about democracy and the liberation of Afghanistan, but the US and its allies are engaged in the warlordization, criminalization and drug-lordization of our wounded land.</p>
<p>Respected friends, over five years passed since the US-led attack on Afghanistan. Probably many of you are not well aware of the current conditions of my country and expect me to list the positive outcomes of the past years since the US invasion. But I am sorry to tell<br />
you that Afghanistan is still chained in the fetters of the fundamentalist warlords and is like an unconscious body taking its last breath.</p>
<p>The US government removed the ultra-reactionary and brutal regime of Taliban, but instead of relying on Afghan people, pushed us from the frying pan into the fire and selected its friends from among the most dirty and infamous criminals of the “Northern Alliance”, which is made up of the sworn enemies of democracy and human rights, and are as dark-minded,<br />
evil, and cruel as the Taliban.</p>
<p>The Western media talks about democracy and the liberation of Afghanistan, but the US and its allies are engaged in the warlordization, criminalization and drug-lordization of our wounded land.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Fariborz (Iran)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/17/what-is-really-execution-by-stoning/#comment-10574</link>
		<dc:creator>Fariborz (Iran)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>* I didn&#039;t see your links</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>* I didn&#8217;t see your links</p>
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		<title>By: Fariborz (Iran)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fariborz (Iran)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Halim, I am so sorry I didn&#039;t your links. I am going to write about it in my blog. thank you very much for your links and please accept my apology for not noticing your comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Halim, I am so sorry I didn&#8217;t your links. I am going to write about it in my blog. thank you very much for your links and please accept my apology for not noticing your comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Fariborz (Iran)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fariborz (Iran)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Halim:

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Halim:</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Grumpy</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/07/17/what-is-really-execution-by-stoning/#comment-10571</link>
		<dc:creator>Grumpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 22:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for that link, Halim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for that link, Halim.</p>
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		<title>By: Halim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Halim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;â€œhave bashed and burned the skulls and bodies of millions of children, women and men in Iraq and Afghanistan, Vetnam, etc.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Randal,  United states killed millions and billions of Afgan women and children, if your statement is true I stand by your side.

Watch this website created by battered and oppressed Afgan women. Show me a single statement by those courageous women convicting U.S. for the suffering of Afgan people.

http://www.rawa.org/gallery.html

http://www.rawa.org/women.html

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Women/RevolAfghanWomen.html

http://www.rawa.org/index.php

Randal, you oppose American tyrrany it bother me little. But It is
crystal clear  your intention is to cover up the atrocities
committed under the banner of Islam.

Hi Fariborz, Please watch the website www.rawa.org. As a Persian you can feel the pain of Afgan women. I request you to put a link to that site to show our solidarity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>â€œhave bashed and burned the skulls and bodies of millions of children, women and men in Iraq and Afghanistan, Vetnam, etc.</p></blockquote>
<p>Randal,  United states killed millions and billions of Afgan women and children, if your statement is true I stand by your side.</p>
<p>Watch this website created by battered and oppressed Afgan women. Show me a single statement by those courageous women convicting U.S. for the suffering of Afgan people.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rawa.org/gallery.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.rawa.org/gallery.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.rawa.org/women.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.rawa.org/women.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Women/RevolAfghanWomen.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Women/RevolAfghanWomen.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.rawa.org/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.rawa.org/index.php</a></p>
<p>Randal, you oppose American tyrrany it bother me little. But It is<br />
crystal clear  your intention is to cover up the atrocities<br />
committed under the banner of Islam.</p>
<p>Hi Fariborz, Please watch the website <a href="http://www.rawa.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.rawa.org</a>. As a Persian you can feel the pain of Afgan women. I request you to put a link to that site to show our solidarity.</p>
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		<title>By: Fariborz (Iran)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fariborz (Iran)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 06:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To RandallJones:

&lt;blockquote&gt;How dare you deny that the singers of that song comce from countries that&lt;/blockquote&gt;

1. Instead of trying to deviate us from main topic, please stick to the topic.

2. Don&#039;t make a new accusation, you didn&#039;t ask anything about it before. go ahead and read your posts.

3. Although now you asked, I won&#039;t reply to it in this post because it&#039;s irrelevant to the topic.

4. If you want somebody creates a video, it&#039;s ok. Just go ahead and ask from people! if your cause convince them they&#039;ll help you! right? did you ever try or are you writing here to fill the post and digress the main topic?


Unfortunately, in Islamic cultures people make accusations instead of addressing to the problem. It comes from lack of knowledge to come up with a logical answer so they try to digress from the main problem. &lt;strong&gt;Nobody can justify cruelty in Islamic Rulings with anything.&lt;/strong&gt;

So don&#039;t even try to justify a barbaric Islamic cruelty with anything else in the world because it&#039;s people life at stake!

Fariborz Shamshiri</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To RandallJones:</p>
<blockquote><p>How dare you deny that the singers of that song comce from countries that</p></blockquote>
<p>1. Instead of trying to deviate us from main topic, please stick to the topic.</p>
<p>2. Don&#8217;t make a new accusation, you didn&#8217;t ask anything about it before. go ahead and read your posts.</p>
<p>3. Although now you asked, I won&#8217;t reply to it in this post because it&#8217;s irrelevant to the topic.</p>
<p>4. If you want somebody creates a video, it&#8217;s ok. Just go ahead and ask from people! if your cause convince them they&#8217;ll help you! right? did you ever try or are you writing here to fill the post and digress the main topic?</p>
<p>Unfortunately, in Islamic cultures people make accusations instead of addressing to the problem. It comes from lack of knowledge to come up with a logical answer so they try to digress from the main problem. <strong>Nobody can justify cruelty in Islamic Rulings with anything.</strong></p>
<p>So don&#8217;t even try to justify a barbaric Islamic cruelty with anything else in the world because it&#8217;s people life at stake!</p>
<p>Fariborz Shamshiri</p>
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