“Then the Lord appeared to Abram and said, “to your descendants I will give this land.” (Genesis 12:7)

and God spoke to Abram : “To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the River Euphrates … (Genesis 15: 18)

and : “Also I give to you and your descendants after you the land in which you are a stranger, all the land of Canaan, as an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.” (Genisis 17:8)

and : Then God said: “No, Sarah your wife shall bear you a son, and you shall call his name Isaac; I will establish My covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his descendants after him. (Genesis 17: 19)

and : for in Isaac your seed shall be called. (Genesis 21: 12)

and God spoke about Ishmael : “Yet I will also make a nation of the son of the bondwoman, because he is your seed.” (Genesis 21:13) and “I will make him a great nation. (Genesis 21:18)

If your following what I’ve posted from the Bible – it points out is that the land of Israel was given by God to the descendants of Abraham through his son Isaac (the Jews). The Arabs (or we also call them the Palestinians) were also blessed of God and given many other nations but it’s not the nation of Israel. The land of Israel was given to Isaac’s descendants by God. Why aren’t the Palestinian people happy with all God has given them and blessed them with? Instead they want to take from what God hasn’t given them – God has given them so much but let them leave the descendants of Isaac alone to enjoy what God gave to them. If the Palestinians were smart they would quit this task of trying to steal from the Jewish people since in the scriptures God says : “I will curse who curse you” . The bottom line is this attack against the Jewish people and this unending irrational desire to steal this little piece of land from the Jewish people is an act of demonic spirits. If you seem to have this irrational desire to hurt and steal from the descendants of Isaac and take their land then you need to find Jesus. After your one with God then ask God if you have evil spirits and if so cast them out. It’s evil spirits that drive people to hate and persecute the descendants of Isaac. You will never win fighting against God.

May I quote Golda Meir:
“There was no such a thing as Palestinians. When was there an independent Palestinian people with a Palestinian State? It was either southern Syria before the First World War and then it was a Palestine including Jordan. It was not as though there was a Palestinian people in Palestine considering itself as a Palestinian people and we came and threw them out and took their country away from them. They did not exist.”

Summarizing a simple truth by a Jewish Palestinian herself (Palestinian as in an inhabitant of the Palestinian Mandate – not as in Israeli Arabs nowadays, nor as the people who call themselves “Palestinians” nowadays)

And an important question I have:
Why is there no outrage towards Jordan who took 80% of the Palestinian Mandate – “stealing” thus 80% of Palestinian land?

(PS: personally i don’t mind to see a Palestinian state erected (thank you Romans), but the irrational and biased fuss against Israel just pisses me off)

Or do you let people party in your house every night? Or, wait, let other people buy a room in your house because otherwise you might be a racist?

Guess that’s not the case, aah?

And btw Jina. The organisation I’m referring to. It’s even worse. They are using part of the money which was stolen from them during WWII.

The word “Eskimo”, however, has been and is widely been used by all types of people and not especially racists or KKK members or anyone like that. It was not usually meant to be pejorative or an insult. And that is why I feel free to use it.

Ya every fucking thing is a word… and Eskimo is a racist term, accept it and stop using it instead of proving your racist crap over and over again. Eskimo means raw meat eaters. Ya… that doesn’t sound offensive at all. In Canada, you know, the place where majority of the Inuits live… it’s a racist term… accept it as a racist term and stop using it. You do not define what’s racist and what is not so stop being an asshole.

Then again you are a racist prick, so I don’t except anything less from you. At the same time, you can always goto an Inuit and call him an Eskimo, if you come out without a scratch, I’ll give you a cookie.

About the Palestinian thing, you don’t define what Palestinian is, your not god and you are not an authority on the issue. Stop making a fool of yourself. And Esra’a provided the link to what I said about you.

If you have any free time, please go die, you’ll be doing the Jews a favour.

help Jews and refuse help to any other groups.

Creeeepy.

Here’s the Web site of the Central Council of Jews in Germany. They collect money from Jews (and the German government) and help Jews and refuse help to any other groups.

http://www.zentralratdjuden.de/en/topic/2.html

As mad as it might seem to you, the Lutherans and Catholics in Germany must collect their own monies to help Lutherans and Catholics.

Although all three do help members of the other groups and each other occasionally, they do have policies that put their own first and it is not illegal for them to do so.

“Palestinian” is a racist term too.

LOL!

Man, you should do stand-up.

I did NOT say that “Palestinians” are second class citizens.

I did NOT defend that.

Actually Andrew, yes you did, or at least the hideous implication is there:

“I have never believed that being treated like a second-class citizen by the victorious power is a human rights violation.” – Thread

You have issues.

I read an Ephraim Kishin column once where he described an Israeli school class travelling to Czechoslovakia back in the 1960s.

When they arrived in the school they were visiting they were greeted by a chorus of students shouting “Jews! Jews! Jews! Jews! Jews!”.

Their teacher was apparently shocked, but the Israeli students were not.

They didn’t know that the word “Jew” was a pejorative in Europe once and survived as such in eastern Europe after the war.

“But, of course, we are Jews. So what’s the problem?”

Eskimo, Eskimo, Eskimo.

“Palestinian” is a racist term too. Its definition is “a non-Jewish inhabitant of Palestine”. In Germany using the term “German” to describe a “non-Jewish inhabitant of Germany” is illegal because it is racist.

Please don’t use the word “Palestinian” any more, unless you use it in the inclusive sense (i.e. “all inhabitants of Palestine, even Jews”).

And you might say that it is common usage of the term “Palestinian” to refer only to “Arab Palestinians”. With that I agree. But it is hardly more common than calling the Inuit “Eskimos”.

I know some Jews who are insulted by the common usage of the word “Palestinian”.

If you like political correctness, please realise that it goes both ways.

But now for something completely different…

The reason the word “nigger” should not be used is not because it is racist (it is not more racist than using the word “black” or “coloured” or “people of colour” which signify the same alleged difference between peoples), it is because it was used by slave holders and racists to refer to blacks in a pejorative way. It is because of that that the word “nigger” should not be used, because it would identify the speaker with the scum who used to use the word.

The word “Eskimo”, however, has been and is widely been used by all types of people and not especially racists or KKK members or anyone like that. It was not usually meant to be pejorative or an insult. And that is why I feel free to use it.

It seems that you have not understood why certain words are not used by polite people. You seem to think that is is because all words used in the past have been replaced by new words, words that come from the language of the people called such. But that’s not it. The word “nigger” is not more racist than the word “white”. Both words refer to an insignificant difference between groups of people defined by the words (blacks and whites, in this case). Using the word “nigger” does not make one a racist, and neither does using the word “white” make one a racist. It’s the other way around: it was the racists who used the word “nigger”, hence making it inappropriate for others. The racist makes the word, not vice versa.

The word “German”, if it means “inhabitant of Germany”, is not racist. The word “German”, if it means “non-Jewish inhabitant of Germany”, IS racist.

It is perhaps better to call people by the name they give themselves. So perhaps Eskimos should be called Inuit. And Germans should be called “Deutsche”, and not “Germans”. And “Palestinians” should be called something else, since “Palestinian” derives from the Hebrew for “invader” and referred originally to (presumably Greek) invaders settling in Gaza, and I believ “Arab” is an Aramaic word meaning “people who live in the west” (same root as Hebrew “‘erev” = “evening”)).

The JNF own the land and can lease it to whomever they want. The government manages the land for the JNF but that doesn’t mean that the JNF cannot exercise their rights as owners.

There is nothing racist about that, and neither is it racist if an Arab land owner refuses to sell to a non-Muslim.

Note that the JNF will happily lease land to Mizrahim (Arab Jews). The distinction they make is one of religion, not race or ethnicity.

Would you approve of a Muslim or Christian organisation buying land somewhere for the use of Muslims and Christians (including such ethnic Jews that convert to Islam or Christianity)?

Jina,

“And stick to the topic Andrew, we are not talking about Muslims or Arabs.”

We ARE talking about Muslims and Arabs. How can anybody accuse the JNF of racism and then claim that talking about the alleged victims is off-topic?

And no, I didn’t say that “Palestinians” are second class citizens. And I never defnded that (I also don’t believe it). Please do not put words in my mouth. And please do not accuse me of bigotry based on whatever lies about me you seem fit to make up.

Suzanne,

You are probably racist. You should work for Mormons or Catholics. I hear they can collect money from fellow Mormons and Catholics and distribute it to Mormons and Catholics without being forced to give it to Lutherans and Jews instead.

Jina,

There are MANY organisations that only help specific people, often members of a specific religion. Do you think any of the “Palestinian” terror funds distribute the monies they collect to Jews (other than in the form of missiles)? Or assuming that there are legitimate “Palestinian” charities that collect money from supporters, do you think they should be forced to give part of what they collect to non-”Palestinians”? Are they all racist or is only a Jewish organisation that does that racist?

Anyway, may I add again that I do not appreciate you putting words in my mouth:

I did NOT say that “Palestinians” are second class citizens.

I did NOT defend that.

I do, in fact, neither agree that “Palestinians” as an Arab people exist (I only believe in “Palestinians” as “inhabitants of Palestine”, without any racial or religious considerations), nor do I agree that those Arab Palestinians who hold Israeli citizenships are second class citizens, nor do I think they should be second class citizens; nor do I defend the idea that they should be second class citizens.

I obviously expect an apology for your misquoting me plus an apology for calling me a bigot since the accusation was based on something that I did not say. (Alternatively, to avoid the second apologuy, find something I did say and call me a bigot for that.)