The plague of sharia

The more a religion archaic is, the more it rejects any principles of modernity, natural science, and democracy.

Islam has not adopted itself to any Intellectual reforms. It stubbornly remains based on the rules of sharia which were the primitive tribal rules and traditions of pagans of Arabian of 1400 years ago.

No religion, especially non-reformed Islam, would allow freedom of thought and expression. Therefore, democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim state is either totalitarian or autocratic.

Among many ethnic and minority groups, women are the main victims of misogynous rules of such states.

Therefore, in a traditional and patriarchal Islamic society, hijab symbolizes the fact that woman’s right is written on a tiny footnote of the Islamic laws (sharia):

The husband is allowed to marry four wives, plus temporary marriage for an unlimited time (Sigheh).

The husband has the right to beat her wives when they do not obey
(Koran 4:34).

A series of archaic sharia-laws degrades the right and dignity of women.
In such a society, a woman cannot be at the same time an emancipated wife and a good Muslim.

I love how Jahanshah and the rest of the anti-Islamic crowd that kisses up to Western imperialists often cite Qu’ranic verses out of context.

By the way retard, temporary marriage is only practiced by Shi’ites and is condemned by Sunni scholars.

In such a society, a woman cannot be at the same time an emancipated wife and a good Muslim.

Oh really? I’m sure I might need to inform Benazir Bhutto, Asma Jehangir, and Hina Jillani on that. Oh how they have been fooled!?!?!?!

Wow, reading this truly opened up my eyes. You have made quite the discovery. I now see that religion is the root of every single problem on earth, and that this “civilization” thing is going to be destroyed by religion if we don’t do something about it.

Really, this is quite stupid. You have said nothing original or new, not to mention anything that is either historically or theoretically accurate. I am an atheist myself, but I have not made a religion out of it. Apparently you have.

By the way retard, temporary marriage is only practiced by Shi’ites and is condemned by Sunni scholars.

Well that certainly smashes his whole thesis that religious dogmatism inhibits intellectual development and the advancement of civilization! What a brilliant counter-argument, Danial!

As a Baha’i I can only sit back and shake my head. This is exactly what the Baha’i Faith addresses. I have just confirmed once again, that a Baha’is sense of religion and its place in the World is categorically different from every body else’s.

Here are some good Baha’i quotes that will open your mind and make you think about our little “sect”.

A major source of conflict and disunity in the world today is the widespread opinion that there is some basic opposition between science and religion, that scientific truth contradicts religion on some points, and that one must choose between being a religious person, a believer in God, or a scientist, a follower of reason and culture.

The Bahá’í teachings stress the fundamental harmony of science and religion. This view derives from the belief that truth (or reality) is one. For if truth is indeed one, it is not possible for something to be scientifically false and religiously true. ‘Abdu’l-Bahá expressed forcefully this idea in the following passage:

If religious beliefs and opinions are found contrary to the standards of science, they are mere superstitions and imaginations; for the antithesis of knowledge is ignorance, and the child of ignorance is superstition. Unquestionably there must be agreement between true religion and science. If a question be found contrary to reason, faith and belief in it are impossible, and there is no outcome but wavering and vacillation.

The very diversity of the human race is, in fact, a means for creating a world based on unity rather than uniformity. It is not by the suppression of differences that we will arrive at unity, but rather by an increased awareness of and respect for the intrinsic value of each separate culture, and indeed, of each individual. It is not diversity itself which is the cause of conflict, but rather our immature attitude towards it, our intolerance and misconceptions of others.

`Abdu’l-Bahá expressed this viewpoint in the following passage:

Should any one contend that true and enduring unity can in no wise be realized in this world, inasmuch as its people widely differ in their manners and habits, their tastes, their temperament and character, their thoughts and their views, to this we make reply that differences are of two kinds; the one is the cause of destruction, as exemplified by the spirit of contention and strife which animates mutually conflicting and antagonistic peoples and nations, whilst the other is the sign of diversity, the symbol and the secret of perfection, and the revealer of the bounties of the All-glorious.

‘Abdu’l-Bahá, The Divine Art of Living

In the last three decades, Islam has become a more visible tool of politics as a religion, not only in Iran and Middle East, but also in Western Europe and the United States.

Greater attention to Islam has has been the job of human rights- organisations in the importer of political Islam.

Only a few decades ago, Muslims were virtually invisible in Europe and America. Today, not only because of increased immigration in the religious landscape of the West, but also a growing politicised aspect of Islam is the main obstacle of their integration. Mosques and Islamic centres are in European and American the symbols of Muslims’ social and political isolation.

To yaman:

Maybe you need reasoning based on history, it’s ok. I understand you.

I knew that my article conider offensive to religious people or people with strong religious ties. it’s ok.

TO Jahanshah:

Thanks for Islamic point of view.

To Omid:

Religious people justify religion as a necessity for human prosperity. Right?
So the same applies to every religion and yours too.

Bahai religion is very young almost 150 years so we can’t discuss about it at the moment. We can discuss Bahai religion impact on societies, intellectual development and the advancement of civilization when

1. Bahai religion is not in minority.
2. Bahai believers would have more power than nowadays. (or more active)

You cant bash the religion, only the religious people.

When you put something pure into something dirty, it too appears to be tainted. But, nonetheless it was clean to begin with.

I am not even thinking to bash anything. For me, it’s an open discussion and am willing to hear new ideas and learn.

what’s dirty? people or religious people?
Because I don’t think so God (peaceful and kind one, not the one that always kill people) consider their creatures dirty!!

Exactly. It is the mullas, priests and religious leaders who foul up most things. (sigh)

Only a few decades ago, Muslims were virtually invisible in Europe and America. Today, not only because of increased immigration in the religious landscape of the West, but also a growing politicised aspect of Islam is the main obstacle of their integration. Mosques and Islamic centres are in European and American the symbols of Muslims’ social and political isolation.

Jahanshah, I don’t think you are in any position to go around commenting on the status of American Muslims, since American Muslims are highly educated, extremely wealthy, and integrated into the American psyche. Why don’t you go take a look at Keith Ellison and tell me that mosques and Islamic centers are the symbol of social isolation.

Comparing how European and American Muslims live is apples to oranges, my friend.

Hmm. I find myself in agreement with Danial.

There is a vast difference between European and American Muslims, simply because American Muslim immigrants have no choice but to work hard to survive, while European Muslim immigrants can survive without work.

The attitudinal differences are completely based on economic opportunities.

Danial:

Muslims in the west after 9/11 are isolated and specially after Salman Rushdie’s Islamic outrage and Ayaan Hirsi Ali storey, nobody easily buy Islamic ideology.

Dear Fariborz:
I would be happy if you read my post (I thank god for the suffering!) that agree with your post!
and continue it at Allah; the idealogist of Arab-jewish wars?
then let me know your comment!

regards,

Dear Lord,

My Pleasure and thanks for giving me chance to read your posts.

I wish you could copy your article here, for everyonw to read.

my comment about your article is:

Allah in Quran, the holly muslim’s book, in the Food sureh (5:82) spake that: ”Thou wilt certainly find the most violent of people in enmity against the believers to be the Jews and the idolators; and thou wilt find the nearest in friendship to the believers to be those who say, We are Christians. That is because there are priests and monks among them and because they are not proud.” 1,2

It’s true and the name of sureh is The Table or The Table Spread (it’s not food).

And why for reading and understanding Quran, you don’t need anything else but Quran itself, the answer lies in Quran:

The Quran is totally sufficient for the genuine believer for the following reasons:

1) The Quran is not in need of an annex since it is complete:

“The word of your Lord is complete in truth and justice” 6:115

2) The Quran is not in need of an explanatory supplement since it is clear and is not ambiguous:

“A.L.R. These are the signs of the clear book” 12:1

“We have made it (the Quran) easy to understand and in your own tongue (language) may you take heed.” 44:58

3) The Quran is not in need of a correction manual since it is perfect and harbours no contradictions:

“A.L.R. This is a book whose verses have been perfected” 11:1

4) The Quran is not in need of a step by step guide since it is fully detailed:

“Shall I seek other than God as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?” 6:114

And the Quran commands all Muslims to follow the Quran Alone, this command is found in numerous verses, the following are examples:

“These are God’s revelations that We recite to you truthfully. In which Hadith other than God and His revelations do they believe?” 45:6

“Shall I seek other than God as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?” 6:114

And the Quran confirms that the only duty of Muhammad is to deliver God’s message, and not to teach any other teachings:

“The only duty of the messenger is to deliver God’s message” 5:99 (also in 5:92, 16:35, 16:82, 24:54, 29:18, 42:48, 64:12)

The Quran also confirms that Muhammad was commanded not to teach any other teachings, otherwise he would incur severe punishment from God:

“It (the Quran) is a revelation from the Lord of the universe. Had he (Muhammad) uttered any other teachings, We would have grabbed him by the right, and We would have severed his Wateen (Major artery of the heart), none of you could have helped him.” 69:43-47

Muhammad was made to swear that the only revelation he received from God was the Quran. The following verse confirms that all what is known as (Hadith Qodsy) are lies that the prophet is innocent of:

“Say (O Muhammad) what is of the greatest testimony? Say: God is the witness between me and you, and this Quran has been inspired to me, that I may warn you and whomever it reaches” 6:19

I wish you could copy your article here, for everyonw to read.

I find its reaction even more interesting.

By the way, the Koran is not anti-Zionist, to anyone who implies that. The Kingdom of Jews is Israel, to which God has given them the right to:

Surah 17:104 (al-Isra)-

“And we said after him [i.e, Pharaoh] to the Children of Israel, “Dwell in the land, and when there comes the promise [i.e, appointment] of the Hereafter, we will bring you forth in [one] gathering.”

Nor is it anti-Jewish or anti-Christian, because as this Surrah clearly states:

2:62 – “Verily they that believe and those of Jewry and the Christians and those Sabaeans, whoso believes in God and the Last Day, and do what is right, their rewards await them with their Lord, and fear shall not come upon them, neither shall they be grieved.”

A Muslim scholar also states:

“In 1919, when the Hashemite Emir Feisal first heard of Zionism, he exclaimed that he was seeing what was announced in the Koran – the Jews coming back to the land.” Palazzi points out. “And this was one of the reasons he signed his historic agreement with Chaim Weizmann.”

He blames the British for fomenting discord between Muslims and Jews and maintaining a “divide and conquer policy.”

According to Palazzi, until two decades ago, Arab opposition to the State of Israel was based on nationalism, not Islam.

So all of this crazy talk on Muslims hating Jews because “their religion told them so” is baseless.

The bible appears to have more violent passages than the Quran, click to view the source.

Dear Fariborz:
I used your great answers in my weblog in a post ( Quran vs. Quran ), with regard to copyright!
you could read it!

Lord, to answer some of your questions:

He could send prophets and interpreters to tell us, anytime he will and there was no need for a book! So what’s the use of Quran for us?

The Quran is specifically here to test our patience and faith. If it was as easy as God showing us “the way” and opening our eyes to the “Truth,” to which the Prophet has revealed, then what would be the use of Islam? The Quran makes it clear that it’s here to “guide” us but it grants a choice. It doesn’t literally force you into doing anything, such as the Hijab. In the Quran, it’s stated that you should cover your “bosoms” (i.e, breasts). It’s a mistranslation in English when “hair” is anywhere mentioned in the Quran – in the Arabic language, I challenge anyone to find me a passage which does as much as mention “hair,” let alone force a woman to wear it.

Although the choice of religion (or the lack there of as the case may be) has consequences, you must at least appreciate that there is an option. Consider this argument by a Sheikh:

Dr. Ali Jum’a Mufti explains that God has given the freedom to all humans to alter their faith, and should they do that their fate awaits them with God on Judgment Day. Dr. Mufti uses certain verses within the Holy Quran to support this argument, “whoever wants to believe shall believe and whoever wants to disbelieve may do so,” as well as “you have your religion and we have ours,” and finally “there’s no hatred in religion.”

Thus:

Dr. Mufti adds that if a person merely rejects Islam, there is no punishment against that and it should be left in the hands of God. It may only involve the judicial body should that person be actually harmful, an argument not in favor of Egypt’s ruling against Kareem Amer. What Kareem went through is a personal struggle between Him and God, and he is free to believe and express whatever he wants as long as it doesn’t preach violence, which Kareem is also innocent of.

It shows that there is a choice in Islam, granted by the Quran.

There are bunch of verses which is not support your idea and Mufti ideas.

Dr. Mufti used the Koran to support his ideas, I also posted an example of verses that preach the opposite of what you are making it seem. Are you denying that these verses are in the Koran?

By the way, stop bolding every single response. You’re ruining the layout.

Exactly. It is the mullas, priests and religious leaders who foul up most things. (sigh)

No sir, no one is dirty. It is the scriptual teaching of a particular religeon that is dirty. When a mullah or a bunch of muslims stones a young women to death, freely beats wife with an excuse of disobedience I respect them as true believer.Who am I to blame when a believer follow the teaching of his or her faith literally. So if we need to expose a religeon we have to attack the teaching and teacher of scripture.No, not all religeon brought disaster to humanity.
For the shake of argument let me compare Baha’s faith, islam and christianity. If you follow the teaching of Baharullah or gospel of christ literally you become mother Terisa,Gandhi, Mandella, Martin Luther King. On the other hand if you follow the teaching of professor Muhamad
literally every possiblities you become Khomeni,Ahmadinajad,Nasarallah,Hisbollah Aljawhari,Mullah Omar,Abu musa al zarkwai, the great messiahs of islam of our time.
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Dear Esra:
I didnt mean really what the use of Quran is. I think every muslim knows what it is.
And every muslim knows that there is no obligation in accepting Islam; just as theory (but believe or not its just like a joke for us if we ever see one muslim accept another muslim to change his religion; he may kill him or judge him by another mean!)
All my article was about the uselessness of Quran interpreting, and in my approach I used that questions too but I didnt really want to ask what the Quran use is.

By the way thanks for your commment!

Nor is it anti-Jewish or anti-Christian, because as this Surrah clearly states:

In support of your statement I am quoting
a noble verse from noble Quran

They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah’s way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper. 4.89

Masterpiece message from a crazy guy
Allah. Esra, you missed it.

Actually no, that doesn’t go against my statement. I am talking specifically about Christians and Jews. Where is either mentioned in your verse?

The husband is allowed to marry four wives, plus temporary marriage for an unlimited time (Sigheh).

Remember Islam is only religeon strongly
man-friendly.What’s wrong in it.Just you need double king size bed to handle comfortably.

Just you need double king size bed to handle comfortably.

HAHAHAH. I love this.

However, you have to understand the historical context of that… “agreement,” let’s call it. The aim was tribal reproduction, as in “the more, the merrier.” It was a strategy for the further extension of the faith, and it’s certainly not just Muslims who do this. Remember that polygamy also exists in some Christian households, despite it being illegal in many countries.

Actually no, that doesn’t go against my statement. I am talking specifically about Christians and Jews. Where is either mentioned in your verse

Sometime the believer behaves so naive.You right it is not mentioned in the verse. Most probably the verse delivered specifically for dogs, pigs and roaches. They stubbornly refuses to believe.

Esra’a:

Surah 17:104 (al-Isra)-

“And we said after him [i.e, Pharaoh] to the Children of Israel, “Dwell in the land, and when there comes the promise [i.e, appointment] of the Hereafter, we will bring you forth in [one] gathering.”

The promise of the Hereafter, is
the Day of Resurrection; it means after their death, Allah will gather them.

And you missed most angry part of it:

17:4 – “And We gave warning to the Children of Israel in the Book, that twice would they do mischief on the earth and be elated with mighty arrogance (and you would they be punished twice)”

17:5 – “So, when the promise came for the first of the two, We sent against you slaves of Ours given to terrible warfare. They entered the very innermost parts of your homes. And it was a promise (completely) fulfilled.”

17:7 – (And We said): “If you do good, you do good for your ownselves, and if you do evil (you do it) against yourselves.” Then, when the second promise came to pass, (We permitted your enemies) to make your faces sorrowful and to enter the mosque (of Jerusalem) as they had entered it before, and to destroy with utter destruction all that fell in their hands.”

Anti – Christian verses in Quran:

5:14 – “From those, too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the message that was sent them: so we estranged them, with enmity and hatred between the one and the other, to the day of judgment. And soon will Allah show them what it is they have done.“

5:51 – “O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as allies (friends, protectors, helpers, etc.), they are but allies to one another. And if any amongst you takes them as allies, then surely he is one of them. Verily, Allah guides not those people who are the Zalimun (Arabic word which means polytheists and wrong­doers and unjust).”

Allah orders to abduct non-Muslim women in retaliation:

60:11 – “And if any of your wives deserts you to the Unbelievers, and ye have an accession (by the coming over of a woman from the other side), then pay to those whose wives have deserted the equivalent of what they had spent (on their dower). And fear Allah, in Whom ye believe.“

And how Muslims justify fighting (in any form) with Christians and Jews:

60:9 – “It is only as regards those who fought against you on account of religion, and have driven you out of your homes, and helped to drive you out, that Allah forbids you to befriend them. And whosoever will befriend them, then such are the Zalimun (arabic word which means wrong-doers those who disobey Allah).”

(Also they consider Muslim who are friends with christians and jews, as traitor)

Read the story and join to solve it: Allah; the idealogist of Arab-Jew wars?

Well if bahais are so enlightened then why do they still reject homosexuals
why do they insult,persecute, and not allow gays to participate in the religion?? is there a loving open minded quote for that???

Omid T (Iran/USA) Wrote:
As a Baha’i I can only sit back and shake my head. This is exactly what the Baha’i Faith addresses. I have just confirmed once again, that a Baha’is sense of religion and its place in the World is categorically different from every body else’s.
Here are some good Baha’i quotes that will open your mind and make you think about our little “sect”.
A major source of conflict and disunity in the world today is the widespread opinion that there is some basic opposition between science and religion, that scientific truth contradicts religion on some points, and that one must choose between being a religious person, a believer in God, or a scientist, a follower of reason and culture.
The Bahá’í teachings stress the fundamental harmony of science and religion. This view derives from the belief that truth (or reality) is one. For if truth is indeed one, it is not possible for something to be scientifically false and religiously true. ‘Abdu’l-Bahá expressed forcefully this idea in the following passage:
If religious beliefs and opinions are found contrary to the standards of science, they are mere superstitions and imaginations; for the antithesis of knowledge is ignorance, and the child of ignorance is superstition. Unquestionably there must be agreement between true religion and science. If a question be found contrary to reason, faith and belief in it are impossible, and there is no outcome but wavering and vacillation.
The very diversity of the human race is, in fact, a means for creating a world based on unity rather than uniformity. It is not by the suppression of differences that we will arrive at unity, but rather by an increased awareness of and respect for the intrinsic value of each separate culture, and indeed, of each individual. It is not diversity itself which is the cause of conflict, but rather our immature attitude towards it, our intolerance and misconceptions of others.
`Abdu’l-Bahá expressed this viewpoint in the following passage:
Should any one contend that true and enduring unity can in no wise be realized in this world, inasmuch as its people widely differ in their manners and habits, their tastes, their temperament and character, their thoughts and their views, to this we make reply that differences are of two kinds; the one is the cause of destruction, as exemplified by the spirit of contention and strife which animates mutually conflicting and antagonistic peoples and nations, whilst the other is the sign of diversity, the symbol and the secret of perfection, and the revealer of the bounties of the All-glorious.
‘Abdu’l-Bahá, The Divine Art of Living

I have been a Christian for many years. Only in this last year have I begun to question my beliefs. I find too many flaws with Christianity and religion all together. Now I am more of an Unbeliever. I do not believe in Christianity because it can not be proven. I do not believe in evolution because it can not be 100% proven.

I only provide this information as a bases for my “beliefs” which help to make my point that this next comment comes from a more neutral point than anything.

If you are going to write an article, please work on your grammar and proof-read it. Nothing turns away readers or those who question their beliefs and are seeking others point of views like a poorly written article. If, however, the reason for this extremely bad grammar is due to some automatic translation feature and the original article was written in another language, please ignore my attempt at constructive criticism.

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