Comments on: Intifada U.S.A: Who is afraid of the Arabic language? http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/08/12/intifada-usa-who-is-afraid-of-the-arabic-language/ Thinking Ahead Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:46:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: RandallJones http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/08/12/intifada-usa-who-is-afraid-of-the-arabic-language/#comment-11435 RandallJones Sat, 08 Sep 2007 22:48:25 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/08/12/intifada-usa-who-is-afraid-of-the-arabic-language/#comment-11435 Look at this article at the website of the newspaper of the NYC United Federation of Teachers ( http://www.uft.org/news/teacher/around/irish_duo/ ) were it refers to the terrorists of Hagannah as freedom fighters. It says, <strong><em>“He later became a stakeholder for the Hagannah, a defense lawyer for Jewish gun-runners and had his brother, Mayor William O'Dwyer, call off a police detail from the docks so guns could be sent to Israel. ... [caption of photo] Manhattan attorney Brian O’Dwyer (left), who told a vignette about his father defending <strong>Israeli freedom fighters caught with guns in Manhattan</strong>; with Joel Shiller (center), chair of the UFT Jewish Heritage Committee, and Callaghan.”</em></strong> Here is some of what the Hagannah did to the Palestinians http://www.islamonline.net/English/News/2002-05/16/article23.shtml Not only did they terrorize the Palestinians, they also terrorized Jews. There is a book by Naeim Giladi called <strong>Ben Gurion's Scandals: How the Haganah & the Mossad Eliminated Jews</strong>. Read about it here http://www.bintjbeil.com/E/occupation/ameu_iraqjews.html Look at this article at the website of the newspaper of the NYC United Federation of Teachers ( http://www.uft.org/news/teacher/around/irish_duo/ )

were it refers to the terrorists of Hagannah as freedom fighters. It says,

“He later became a stakeholder for the Hagannah, a defense lawyer for Jewish gun-runners and had his brother, Mayor William O’Dwyer, call off a police detail from the docks so guns could be sent to Israel.
… [caption of photo] Manhattan attorney Brian O’Dwyer (left), who told a vignette about his father defending Israeli freedom fighters caught with guns in Manhattan; with Joel Shiller (center), chair of the UFT Jewish Heritage Committee, and Callaghan.”

Here is some of what the Hagannah did to the Palestinians

http://www.islamonline.net/English/News/2002-05/16/article23.shtml

Not only did they terrorize the Palestinians, they also terrorized Jews. There is a book by Naeim Giladi called Ben Gurion’s Scandals: How the Haganah & the Mossad Eliminated Jews. Read about it here http://www.bintjbeil.com/E/occupation/ameu_iraqjews.html

]]> By: nadia http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/08/12/intifada-usa-who-is-afraid-of-the-arabic-language/#comment-11434 nadia Fri, 17 Aug 2007 06:34:02 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/08/12/intifada-usa-who-is-afraid-of-the-arabic-language/#comment-11434 LOL @ "Mecca is a place held dear. Maybe some people hold NYC and the USA as very valuable too." because there are no arab americans or muslims living in NYC? or the entire country? check the statistics. maybe we want to make the places we live better and safer for all of us by promoting the message of intifada--"shaking off" the systems that oppress us. LOL @ “Mecca is a place held dear. Maybe some people hold NYC and the USA as very valuable too.”

because there are no arab americans or muslims living in NYC? or the entire country? check the statistics. maybe we want to make the places we live better and safer for all of us by promoting the message of intifada–”shaking off” the systems that oppress us.

]]> By: Yaman Salahi (Syria) http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/08/12/intifada-usa-who-is-afraid-of-the-arabic-language/#comment-11433 Yaman Salahi (Syria) Wed, 15 Aug 2007 02:23:13 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/08/12/intifada-usa-who-is-afraid-of-the-arabic-language/#comment-11433 Infidel, this is where you falter: it is <i>anything</i> which imposes its conformities on all in society that creates a grossly oppressive environment. This includes your conception of what an "American" should be. Peter, your comment now that it is just the context which makes the word inappropriate is a significant step back from the vitriolic comments you made the other week that intifada means terrorism. You didn't say "it means terrorism to SOME," you just said it was. And when I commented about IDF shirts, you did not concede that they were even relatable issues. I agree with you that the context is important. That is why these shirts explain the meaning of intifada. Infidel, this is where you falter: it is anything which imposes its conformities on all in society that creates a grossly oppressive environment. This includes your conception of what an “American” should be.

Peter, your comment now that it is just the context which makes the word inappropriate is a significant step back from the vitriolic comments you made the other week that intifada means terrorism. You didn’t say “it means terrorism to SOME,” you just said it was. And when I commented about IDF shirts, you did not concede that they were even relatable issues. I agree with you that the context is important. That is why these shirts explain the meaning of intifada.

]]> By: Esra'a http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/08/12/intifada-usa-who-is-afraid-of-the-arabic-language/#comment-11432 Esra'a Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:16:39 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/08/12/intifada-usa-who-is-afraid-of-the-arabic-language/#comment-11432 Infidel, your comments from this point onwards have been marked for moderation. Ones that are nothing but insulting have been deleted in an effort to maintain the site's atmosphere and relevance of the threads. Read our policy for more information, and consider being less of a clown next time you post. Infidel, your comments from this point onwards have been marked for moderation. Ones that are nothing but insulting have been deleted in an effort to maintain the site’s atmosphere and relevance of the threads. Read our policy for more information, and consider being less of a clown next time you post.

]]> By: Infidel http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/08/12/intifada-usa-who-is-afraid-of-the-arabic-language/#comment-11431 Infidel Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:02:04 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/08/12/intifada-usa-who-is-afraid-of-the-arabic-language/#comment-11431 I would also say that it's not religion itself that is the problem but religion, any religion, as a system of governance, imposing its conformities on all in society, creates a grossly oppressive environment. I would also say that it’s not religion itself that is the problem but religion, any religion, as a system of governance, imposing its conformities on all in society, creates a grossly oppressive environment.

]]> By: Infidel http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/08/12/intifada-usa-who-is-afraid-of-the-arabic-language/#comment-11430 Infidel Tue, 14 Aug 2007 23:51:01 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/08/12/intifada-usa-who-is-afraid-of-the-arabic-language/#comment-11430 Peter, the point you are making is the same one I am making about the shirts. I think it is impossible to degrade the level of conversation here, it has sunk to profanity and personal insults. Peter, the point you are making is the same one I am making about the shirts. I think it is impossible to degrade the level of conversation here, it has sunk to profanity and personal insults.

]]> By: Peter Jacob http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/08/12/intifada-usa-who-is-afraid-of-the-arabic-language/#comment-11429 Peter Jacob Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:26:04 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/08/12/intifada-usa-who-is-afraid-of-the-arabic-language/#comment-11429 In that I touched on this topic (the wrong way) I think I should chime in here. I am not defending the rights of people who should or should not wear such a shirt, I am not defending the rights of people to make or not make such a statement with a piece of clothing. What I wanted to talk about in regards to these shirts (mostly the use of Intifada without cultural reference to what MOST Americans understand the word to mean) is stupid and self destructive. If one was to walk around a town in France or Germany with a shirt that said something like I only eat freedom fries or something as ignorant you would be most likely be spat on. Now up the price. If you get a shirt that says Hitler was right, (but you don't explain WHICH Hitler) who is at fault when there is outrage? And Infidel, shut up. You sound very silly and are not helping your cause (whatever it might be) and you are degrading the level of conversation held here. In that I touched on this topic (the wrong way) I think I should chime in here. I am not defending the rights of people who should or should not wear such a shirt, I am not defending the rights of people to make or not make such a statement with a piece of clothing. What I wanted to talk about in regards to these shirts (mostly the use of Intifada without cultural reference to what MOST Americans understand the word to mean) is stupid and self destructive.

If one was to walk around a town in France or Germany with a shirt that said something like I only eat freedom fries or something as ignorant you would be most likely be spat on. Now up the price. If you get a shirt that says Hitler was right, (but you don’t explain WHICH Hitler) who is at fault when there is outrage?

And Infidel, shut up. You sound very silly and are not helping your cause (whatever it might be) and you are degrading the level of conversation held here.

]]> By: Lou (Saudi Arabia) http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/08/12/intifada-usa-who-is-afraid-of-the-arabic-language/#comment-11428 Lou (Saudi Arabia) Tue, 14 Aug 2007 09:55:44 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/08/12/intifada-usa-who-is-afraid-of-the-arabic-language/#comment-11428 Once a right wing, always up for a brain swing.. I guess that should work as a shirt to walk in.. Esra'a, don't waste your time trying to grow a second brain lobe for that person.. Once a right wing, always up for a brain swing..

I guess that should work as a shirt to walk in..

Esra’a, don’t waste your time trying to grow a second brain lobe for that person..

]]> By: Drima http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/08/12/intifada-usa-who-is-afraid-of-the-arabic-language/#comment-11427 Drima Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:45:49 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/08/12/intifada-usa-who-is-afraid-of-the-arabic-language/#comment-11427 Esra'a just ignore infidel boy here... it's a waste of time. Esra’a just ignore infidel boy here… it’s a waste of time.

]]> By: wow http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/08/12/intifada-usa-who-is-afraid-of-the-arabic-language/#comment-11426 wow Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:02:36 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/08/12/intifada-usa-who-is-afraid-of-the-arabic-language/#comment-11426 hey.. i'm not muslim, or arab.. but i live in new york.. i think the shirts are provocative. but that's the point of a good slogan, to provoke thought. there is no way you can appeal to people's logic on this one. the people leading this anti t-shirt fight are simply using this t-shirt issue as a political pawn. they are people like daniel pipes, who troll the internet or where ever else looking for an opportunity to prove his thesis that islam is inherently violent, backwards, facistic, and dangerous. he doesn't know about the work of a small non-profit for arab girls and he doesn't care. the sad thing is, this recent coverage will do alot to poison the thinking of rational people. oh, and another thing.. why do you even respond to infidel? the dude is obviously not going to at least for a second be moved by anything any of you are saying. i guess it's funny to play with him but you do give him a forum by responding. hey.. i’m not muslim, or arab.. but i live in new york.. i think the shirts are provocative. but that’s the point of a good slogan, to provoke thought.

there is no way you can appeal to people’s logic on this one. the people leading this anti t-shirt fight are simply using this t-shirt issue as a political pawn. they are people like daniel pipes, who troll the internet or where ever else looking for an opportunity to prove his thesis that islam is inherently violent, backwards, facistic, and dangerous. he doesn’t know about the work of a small non-profit for arab girls and he doesn’t care. the sad thing is, this recent coverage will do alot to poison the thinking of rational people.

oh, and another thing.. why do you even respond to infidel? the dude is obviously not going to at least for a second be moved by anything any of you are saying. i guess it’s funny to play with him but you do give him a forum by responding.

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