You can spit on freedom! – part 2
The outrage to the You can spit on freedom! topic is unbelievable.
Well, it seems people couldn’t react well enough and I don’t think so any reason can justify closing the old thread. As long as comments are not personal attacks, we shouldn’t react like this! It’s free speech, right? Everybody has the right to comment on their idea. I don’t like to see people get upset because they’re defending an ideology or a religion.
Anybody has the right to talk and discuss their points, if there’s a disagreement, Just disagree! Why people using “insult” word to take power here and there?
One can say: The whole religions are insulting to human wisdom which I believe it’s right. People have the right to comment on religion and ask for it. It shouldn’t bother anyone here.
Just people are taking comments too personal. I do believe Ayaan Hirsi Ali is an outstanding lady who has courage to defend an idea about Islam. Some people suggests she is insulting Islam and they should kill her! Some others want to destroy her character and some just ignored her. Different kind of reactions is depending on many things but whatever it’s, it shows how much we can tolerate free speech.
Closing the thread was just to enforce ones opinion to others. This is dictatorship. If people can’t practice free speech here on the net, they can’t take it in their real life. There are sacrifices that people should pay to have a democratic environment.
Religion is an ideology and nobody can insult an idea and it’s not sacred. If anybody thinks so it’s sacred then you feel easily insulted because you think people touch that sensitive sacred part of you. If religion (or any ideology) is something from God, who the hell are you (any humankind) to protect it? Who left you this responsibility to measure something is insulting to religion (or any ideology) that you believe or not? If you believe in something so enjoy your belief and don’t criticize people because they don’t share same interest in your beliefs.
And something else is bothering me when I read some people are preaching their religion and ideas which it’s not professional. I do suggest you preach when people ask you to do it.
I respect everybody’s opinion (specially people who diagree with me), just not the one who suggests killing people because of their idea! and I always stand against these kind of reactions and human stupidity.
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what do you expect? Middle East people lived under religious totalitarian government and they get used to that..so they can’t react better than this..whenever they don’t like your idea just they kill you..like Theo van Gogh..they felt he insulted islam and they killed him..they’re happy now..just we should leave them alone..bunch of crazy people who needs their tyrant religious governors..God bless you
I just have one thing to say about the closing of the thread. It is highly presumptuous of the moderators that those who criticize religion have a cursory knowledge of the subject. The moderator might be surprised to know that often it is the atheist/agnostics critics of religion who have studied religion far more deeply than almost all of the actual practitioners of the religion. Some may have even attended Yeshivas and seminary school…This is my last comment on this thread.
Some people in the far-right think Michael Moore should be killed, yet will Fariborz point that out?
Oh wait, only people who criticize Islam are brave, whereas anyone who dares to criticize the West is automatically siding with the Islamists.
What a joke.
And another thing, why do anti-Islamic Persians go around calling themselves independent when they have no problem bending over for Western imperialists and make Iran the splitting image of America? So much for being proud of their culture when they want to emulate America lol
Nasser, stop differing one person who did an act as killing Van Gogh to the whole muslim population.
It makes you sound pretty stupid.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali has her point of views and I respect that but what makes me laugh, and I’ll quote what Esra’a said in the that last post, she contradicts herself. She says a person should have freedom of choice, and is totally against the hijab saying it opresses women. Some women CHOOSE to wear hijab. Did she think of that?!
Don’t be ridiculous. The thread was closed for reasons that Tori outlined very clearly. We don’t insult Christianity and Judaism, and we don’t allow these religions to be insulted or its followers to be portrayed as violent sheep, so why do people resort to that?
It’s not allowed. And it will never be allowed. If you are so disgusted with us Muslims – find another website to contribute to. Jews, Baha’is, and Christians are especially protected in this website and it seems as though people want to maintain their right to insult and attack Muslims. You are more than welcome to question the faith, but NOT in the manner that people have resorted to, personally attacking others and saying “thanks for showing us your true nature” due to disagreements. It’s hateful, it’s offensive, and we don’t allow it to take place against other religions here. Why Islam?!
There are MANY atheists on this website, Arabs and Iranians. None of them have been so shallow in their remarks, they take Muslim readers into strong consideration and when they attack/question the faith, they do so respectfully and responsibly. Never have they been so hateful and personal like the lot of you.
We are here to communicate properly, not to attack each other the way so many people have done, and not to reinforce pitiful stereotypes. If you call this dictatorship, then you are simply clueless as to how this website runs.
No, because you’re only an “outstanding hero” if you attack Muslims. Being a hateful ex-Muslim is heroic. Especially if you make the media!
Really? Which post included your outrage or disgust at people who ask for the death of Muslims? Prove your objectivity and show us a post in which you criticised anything but Islam and Muslims.
The whole thread was a personal attack.
Look, I think debate is great. It was not an easy choice to close the comments. And certainly the comments were not all hateful…
It’s just that the mission of this site includes the terms “mutual respect.”
We have done a lot of work to try to engage different types of people in dialog and to avoid extremism on any part. It’s not easy. We don’t want to become the darling of any extremist groups: right, left of whatever religious or secular persuasion.
What is offensive to Muslims who are posting with us is the way that attacks on Islam are so generalized and personal and knee-jerk. This is certainly not appropriate:
There have been many comments like this.
And while most of us are capable of engaging in civil debate, it seems that there are people who would definitely like to hijack the mission of the site and the debate in the comments.
Mideast Youth does not curb free speech.
We do have a right to maintain our mission and goals. There is a whole internet out there for people who want to write for sites that are more in-tune with their thinking. You can start a blog for free.
False.
OMGZ DICTATORS CENSORING POSTS AGAIN OMGZ!1!
I agree that the thread should not have been closed, but Fariborz, you have a really perverted sense of who is or is not heroic. I think Esra’a's first comment on your first post reflects my opinion as well, and I am an atheist.
Note:
We have decided to re-open the thread on the condition that you question the faith while NOT insulting the members here. The provocative comments have been removed for reasons too clear for me to explain.
I’m personally in favor of keeping it closed, but the editors at this site agreed to get your thread back and we were able to compromise – open thread but clean of insults and personal attacks.
So, here it is.
naser:
I am sorry I don’t agree with you. You can’t generalize whole people in one stereotype. Even there are lots of religious people who don’t support those crazy ideas like killing people. I know people in ME are frustrated because of daily horrifying news about terrors, honor killings, executions and so on.
But I do know there are still many people out there who believe their tyrant religious governors are the best for them. It’s their opinion.
serendip:
Sure, that’s right. Closing the thread was unwise action and contradicted MEY objectives which MEY are “to prove the fact that moderation, interfaith understanding, and sanity do exist in the region”.
Thanks that they corrected it.
Contradicting our policy? What you quoted was our mission, one that you are not doing a very good job contributing to if you continue to single out a group and attacking everything about them, incosiderably. As for our policy, apparently you are not very familiar with its content, please allow me to highlight a few things:
Now although Muslims are not a “race,” singling out a group, referring to them as “thugs” and enforcing the idea that Muslims are indeed violent sheep fits under this description and is thus against our policy. Was your post itself moderated, no it wasn’t. It was the nature of the thread, i.e. the comments, which ultimately led to its closing, a decision which was made collectively by several moderators of this website which, gasp, includes non-Muslims.
This didn’t happen throughout the thread, and it wasn’t bound to happen if the thread continued in the same direction. This qualified for the thread to be closed. The post itself was untouched and thus you were never silenced, and you can never use this argument against this website’s management. Give us proof that you have in any way been personally censored within this website.
When a few editors raised their concern about the closing of the thread, and when we collectively decided to re-open it, I must note that I myself was moderated by another member who provided a more objective and fair decision. If it was my own decision and if this website was truly a dictator your post would have been gone altogether. That didn’t happen. Thus your complaints are entirely exaggerated and invalid, to call this website a dictatorship is just disrespectful and out of line. Where did we ever silence you? A thread was closed because it got out of line and you consider it dictatorship? Wow, good luck finding another regional website that allows you to get away with so much as we do here.
Fairborz- I do agree with you re Hirsi Ali- I think highly of her,as do many people i know. Even if I didnt admire her and have the feeling she is often giving me an accurate portrayal of general cultural systems , I still would not advocate silencing her. (Though i believe biased attacks on any group that advocate violence against a group should actually be banned). The places where she is silenced do not have freedom of speech, as seen in the west. The west, despite its flaws and mistakes( i.e. going to war in Iraq perhaps mostly for oil and Halliburton)offers a multitude of opinions to those of us who seek it. I have the impression that individuals from countries who have limited news and opinion dont actually recognize what they are actually missing in their society, Despite their having some inkling, they do not get the full picture of what free speech consists of.
Danial:
my post was not about Michael Moore! I have no clue about what people in the far-right think! as it seems you’re to familiar with their idea, why didn’t you bring the idea here in MEY and give us a chance to discuss about it?
Or are you just kinda those nagy people who instead of doing something on your own just want to stop others because you don’t like their idea?
Everyone who has courage to speek out is couragous and Ayaan Hirsi Ali is one of them. Also I don’t think so anyone who criticized anything in the west, is siding with the Islamists! there are lots of people who criticize western countries and policies everyday.
The rest of your comment is non-sense and accusations which I won’t waste my time to respond to it. Also if you have problem with Persian culture I suggest you to write an article and I would happily debate with you.
Then so are people like Bin Ladin? Hitler? Stalin? All of them had the courage to stand up for what they believed and were risking their lives in the process. Do you consider them courageous heroes as well?
There’s a difference between fighting for what you believe in and fighting people. Ayaan, like the other comparisons, seems to be doing the latter. Whose interests is she really serving, other than her own? And can someone please note her actual contributions to the societies she claims to be saving?
He’s implying that your posts are too one-sided and focused on attacking a single faith/group instead of realizing that other countries/faiths suffer from the same types of reactions. Yet the infamous claim that it’s just a problem with Islam is something the right-wing media has preached for years now and it seems to be engraved in your posts. We would like to see a variety of things other than ideological bias posted here. As an Iranian blogger you have much potential but we have yet to see your real posts. All we see is echoes of what we are hatefully bombarded with in the international media: “Islam is bad, Muslims are violent, and ex-Muslims are courageous heroes.” Yawn. What else do you have in store for us?
Esra’a:
Ridiculous was closing the thread.
If any comment is insulting, like what Tori addressed in his comment, Moderators has to delete that comment because this place should be a clean place to discuss about everything but insulting. it’s right and there’s no argument about it.
where did you get this idea? is this the way that you treat everyone?
Now who is generalizing? I am against stereotyping, religious or anti-religious.
So just we should delete insulting comments instead of closing thread.
This discussion is just because I don’t think so it’s right to close a thread for an insulting comment and it shouldn’t happen in the future. The site should have the policy to remove the comments. Closing a thread (respectful) is totally wrong.
Fariborz, go back to activistchat and LittleGreenFootballs. I’m convinced that you silly anti-Islamic Persians are really pawns for Western imperialists. You don’t give a damn about Persian culture except to make yourself look appealing to the anti-Islamic crowd. You ignore the contributions that Muslims in Persia have made to the world in order to kiss up to the neoconservative scene. Quick to blame Islam yet stay silent on Operation Ajax, which helped destroy your chances of a secular democracy in the process.
Now I can see why the Spartans kicked your asses hahahahaha
P.S. I have absolutely no problem with Persian culture as I admire it. What I have a problem is with extremist Persian nationalists who are always bending over for LGF faggots in order to score some publicity.
But I am an evil dictator! Remember?
The tone in my comment was inspired by the lack of respect and consideration you had for the site in the comment above. Instead of being a man and confronting a moderator you write a rant claiming that this site is a dictatorship. How immature.
I don’t care how you describe yourself, it should show in your content. Make an effort to actually prove it in your posts, which you never seem to do.
What you don’t seem to understand at all is the fact that the thread was being attacked by more than just one writer. If you delete a post, they will re-write it. And this is precisely what happened. Closing was our only option for the commenters at the time to take a few steps back and now that it is re-opened, what the hell are you complaining about? Didn’t you get what you want?
You whine way too much for your own good.
And also, stop whining over an invasion that happened 1400 years ago. Get the fuck over it. You don’t see Aborigines bitching about exiled convicts invading their land, or the native Americans in Latin America complaining about the Reconquista, do you?
It’s like the blacks who still bitch about slavery to this day, or naiive Muslims bitching about the loss of the Caliphate in 1924.
Get over it.
I may be an asshole, but that’s how the real world works. Life isn’t meant to be sugarcoated, remember that.
Murad Wrote:
heck! I put a link for you What is really execution by stoning? but if you do consider stoning, Islam! It’s your problem.
It’s your opinion.
Fariborz you did not answer his question. He asked:
You replied by again just singling out an example with Islam, and not with others calling to nuke Iran or to nuke Mecca. Or Christians calling Iranians “Satan.”
This, again, is the type of bias that Danial was referring to. You seem to bring out the very worst in Muslims and insist that it’s the pure nature of Islam, throughout almost every single article. Where are your claims of objectivity?
Fariborz, this Pakistani Muslim blogger has done a lot more to end stoning in Iran and made it clear that stoning has no Islamic basis using classical Islamic evidence to back his claims up.
He also worked relentlessly to overturn the fatwa on an Azeri journalist for criticizing Islam.
All this from a Muslim, mind you. I have more respect for people such as Ali Eteraz than for self-hating Persian nationalists who bend over for neoconservatives.
wow- what Danial says is very disrespectful. However, this site is changed somehow from what it was in the past. It seems not to work as a way to join disparate groups. In fact i see one voice loudly and clearly from the moderators and the followers of the moderators.
The Azeri journalist is being supported by many Muslims as are people like Kareem whose entire coalition consists of Muslims despite his harsh criticisms of the faith. Funnily enough, this point was rarely mentioned in the media – people use these cases to make it seem as if it’s Islam (and not politics) that placed these innocent people in prison to begin with. These innocent people are being used as tools to further a certain ideology and people are blindly falling for it, and many Muslims are infuriated with this.
What none of these media outlets realize is that the biggest and most active allies of these prisoners are, gasp, Muslims.
Where is this ever mentioned?
Oh but hateful ex-Muslims, surely they are much more worthy of front-page news.
limpia, the site hasn’t changed at all. Just because this site doesn’t tolerate those who go around seeing all Muslims as “blood-thirsty demons” or accusing all Jews of being “Zionists”, doesn’t make it change from it’s earlier stance.
Esra’a made it clear that she does not tolerate hate speech on here and what Fariborz has been doing has been on the verge of hate speech. One contributor actually decided to leave since he couldn’t leave his hatred for Jews to himself, citing Zionist over and over.
So quit accusing Esra’a of bias. I’ve been here since the birth of the site and the only things the site has changed is with more projects dedicated to bringing change to the region.
Surely with posts like Fariborz’ it won’t. The other authors are actually considerate and aware enough to take it one step at a time instead of constantly framing attacks. The site is by far one of the most diverse in the region and considering the controversy and passion that revolves around the articles, it’s doing remarkbly well, the exception being Fariborz’ two recent articles in which disagreements went out of hand.
To say that the entire site has changed because of a single incident is just absurd. Read around you, look at the archives, you’ll be amazed at what people got away with. In no other regional website will you see this happen, and in no other website will people actually take a vote and debate on whether or not to keep a post up. Most will just delete it. Yet we never silence our authors, and you all know this very well.
One of the deleted posts asked — in what I thought was a reasonable tone — about the extent of religious influence on the selection of political leaders, educational curriculum, and restriction of free speech in Islamic nations. That had to go, it would seem.
It’s apparently okay to say this, however, since it was allowed to remain:
Which pretty much sums up my feelings, and also makes a perfect goodbye.
Tori:
That’s right; people can debate on almost anything!
It’s right and it should be based on mutual respect.
Mutual response will generate mutual respect. My objection to moderator (I don’t know who’s moderator)
was about closing the thread which it was an unwise act.
It’s fascinating, that’s what we all should respect and work hard to keep it.
For sure, we should delete insulting comments. There’s no argument about it.
There are everywhere but it shouldn’t stop democratic debates and we should stand smart and just ignore them or delete their comments.
and finally it was what I questioned in the above article which you guys responded very well with opening the thread.
I think so MEY mission and goals are the same thing which has written in the website. Correct me if I am wrong?
What do you suggest here? Just I don’t follow you.
Yaman:
I think so people, who classify what topics somebody can criticize, are far more than pervert.
Also I am myself.
Other than a mission and goals, we have a great thing called a policy to which authors and commenters are required to follow. I have explained it in more detail above.
Esra’a:
it’s one step development in this site.
why?
Nobody can guarantee people’s reactions and what I noticed about MEY so far, there are some people who always insult others instead of discussing and there could be everywhere. Just it needs moderation.
I am generally not in favor of any thread that rudely treats and refers to Muslims as “thugs.” We treat members of all other faiths with special care except for Muslims and Islam, and it has become unbarable.
It’s too time consuming, and most people are too busy working on other parts of the website to be active in site moderation. We never considered moderation to be an issue for us until this happened. Most posts have gone unmoderated except for the rare exception. Apparently that’s how “dictatorships” work.
Esra’a:
It’s my bad, mission!
everything?! so far my articles highlighted everything that people I know and maybe half of people in Iran and outside is disgusting them. and I don’t care it’s about just a group or many groups.
I codemn racisim and am not supporting any comments from people who contributes to it.
So it should have a new policy for deleting insulting comments instead of closing thread.
I didn’t argue about it! My objection was about the act of closing thread which it isn’t acceptable if MEY’s mission is tolerance and sanity in the region.
I mentioned earlier, the act of closing a thread was the act of autocracy. no matter what anybody says! but thanks that your collective decision was wise.
You suggest you to read my my post once again.
My complaint was about closing the thread which I addressed it in my post “Closing the thread was just to enforce ones opinion to others. This is dictatorship.”
Closing a thread instead of deleting a comment wasn’t smart action that MEY could take. The action was autocracy.
Running a website is not a big deal, handling problems wisely is a big deal. if people comments are insulting, you should delete the comment instead of closing the thread.
limpia:
Thanks for your comment.
Esra’a:
Everyone who has courage to speak out is courageous and Ayaan Hirsi Ali is one of them.
First) our context is obvious! Second) it maybe you’re good at fallacious assumptions, I am not. Third) I don’t think so any healthful logic can apply my above statement to destroyer of humanity or terrorists! Because simple speak out is far far away from killing people!
You can’t compare Ayaan to Bin laden!! In what basis do you compare these two?
She shouldn’t serve anybody! She is speeking out her mind and her real experiences. for me it’s enough.
Also you can argue that. It’s ok.
I do speak my mind and I am responsible for my posts not the right wing media! And it doesn’t matter people like it or not. I guess we do have free speech e-society here in MEY.
All things that you read in my posts are happenging in real life so are real. wheather you or anybody want to ignore it or not.
Esra’a you can’t ask me to ignore to what’s happening in region and write things that you prefer to see!
Danial:
You remind me of scarecrow. No brain inside!
You want to deviate from the main discussion to your foolish accusations and insults. If you do have something inside of your empty brain writes it down on a post!
Esra’a Wrote:
Do you confess something? Because I can’t recall anyone attributed such horrific adjective to you.
I think so you need to read my statement again:
Closing the thread was just to enforce ones opinion to others. This is dictatorship.
So read carefully before make a comment.
The act wasn’t a democratic act at all.
It applies to you too.
Also I am not writing because I wanted people happy. I write what I think.
What you don’t want to get and continually justifying the action that took place is, instead of closing the thread just if you remove instantly some of the insulting comments (personally I can recall one when I read today morning), it would stop there.
No I didn’t get what I want. You owe me an apology because of your aggressive attitude.
That’s the point that you are not getting it! It’s not my own good! It’s for a democratic environment.
Danial Wrote:
I don’t know what you are! but I am sure you don’t have knowledge for a good debate.
Esra’a Wrote:
Those Iranians are Muslims. of course if you consider them! is it really hard to get!
Actually this comment of yours remind me of, thugs who asks a new member of the group to kill an innocent or opponent to prove that you’re with them, not against them!
This act is an intimidating act and against human rights.
This, again, is the type of bias that Danial was referring to. You seem to bring out the very worst in Muslims and insist that it’s the pure nature of Islam, throughout almost every single article. Where are your claims of objectivity?
Wow, you refer to danial?! He can question people whenever he studied more “101 – how to talk” in school.
I write what I want and if you do have any objection about it just write your comments and we can discuss about it. Like everybody else.
Danial Wrote:
For sure, it’s clear for people like you. blind and deaf.
Just because one person argue something doesn’t make him right! Most clergies approve stoning and they are developing it!
Good Job!
Any wise person can recognize hatred in ones statement!
You should read your own posts from now on.
Ya, ok, but in regards to what he said, reality bites… get over it.
limpia:
Look to see who is right now even bothering to say that’s insulting? Esra’a! No way! Which as a moderator, I guess would be nice if you talk to that stupid danial don’t insulting people instead of referring to his statements.
it seems you can’t see some comments while some others are too shining for you!
it’s called hypocrisy.
limpia:
I’m sorry limpia, it wasn’t for you.
Esra’a:
Now you’re blaming me for your own problem. You couldn’t handle an insult from a member to your comments, then closed the thread! Now my post is problem? Problem is how, somebody handled problem! and replies here are personal insults, instead of creative one.
Grumpy (USA) Wrote:
Its sad people like Grumpy that have had a good sense for debating, is left this site.
Jina Wrote:
I said wise person not jina! which is well-known for personal attacks and insults
and that’s the reality!
What an overreaction from some guys here! Getting personal in a debate has no style at all.
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Okay Fariborz. You win. You are right.
I am sorry for being aggressive, I am sorry for taking part in the previous thread’s moderation, and I am especially sorry for being overly defensive over this website.
I was wrong, the site’s management was wrong, and we are sorry. This thread and the previous one will both remain open.
The action taken was out of bias, more than policy. We will make sure that it doesn’t happen again. Please accept our apologies.
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Prove it Einstein. You don’t have the slightlest idea of how Islamic methodology even works, so stop commenting on topics you have no idea about.
Why don’t you publically debate Mr. Ali Eteraz on it? Is it because you don’t want to be called out on being wrong all along? It’s okay, we know how you like to post up evidence that suits your agenda, while discarding others that do not cowtow to your way of thinking.
Fariborz you again did not get what I meant, so to answer your confusion:
Murad, and to a certain extent Danial, are wondering where your disgust is for non-Muslims asking for the death of Muslims, which you never note in any of your entries, as if Muslims and Islam are the only things guilty of such behavior. What we would like to see is more objectivity in your rants which seems to be painfully one-sided, cornering one group of people and never acknowledging the fact that the level of extremism exists amongst other religions as well.
For example how do we distinguish your posts from propaganda against Muslims? Have you ever written about human rights, and not linked it to Islam or Muslims? Have you ever referred to a Muslim as brave, or are only ex-Muslims and anti-Muslims worthy of such titles?
What we want to see is proof that you have more to share with us than posts that are critical of only Islam and Muslims. It gets old, and we are already bombarded with such material from the mainstream media. What can you do in Mideast Youth that inspires interfaith understanding rather than stepping on a faith and its followers by implying that it’s violent by nature and is thus doomed for as long as it exists? Do you see Muslim authors being this inconsiderate with other people’s faiths? If so, when and how?
What you need to be is more responsible and mature in your approach. This is all that we are asking for, and frankly it’s not much. Please make an effort to contribute to this platform in a positive manner without inciting or inspiring hatred and prejudice.
This is an ad hom get over yourself, you are not too full of yourself. Cure it…or just just jump off of the cliff like the rest of the lemmings.
Esra’a:
It was not a game for me. It was much frustrating getting attacks from some people, just because I wanted to warn all what really is happened with closing the thread. It wasn’t something personal; from my viewpoint it was a threat for free speech in MEY.
I accept your apology and I wish all the best to MEY.
Danial:
Get over it.
Esra’a Wrote:
I replied earlier, “Actually this comment of yours remind me of, thugs who asks a new member of the group to kill an innocent or opponent to prove that you’re with them, not against them! This act is an intimidating act.”
You shouldn’t even ask me about my entries, because you’re not a censorship content operator, are you? I am free to write what I want while I am following policy. So don’t ever ask people here, what did they enter? And what didn’t they enter? Because you’re questioning their right which I don’t think so you have the right to question them.
While you’re advocating for Murad and Danial I should say:
1. My entries have focused on problems most likely related to Iran. So what I write and the problems I see are related to Iran.
2. As I have found out my country problem is in the people mind and their slavery to that faith so my major concern is about what they think and their faith.
1. For sure criminals are not just Muslims who are guilty of death.
2. Why should I note in my articles? So what are you doing here? Don’t you or others write any articles about it?
3. What do you ask me to write something about it? and why?
Let me make it easier for you, I am not in favor of any religion or group. Actually I know religion is the enemy of people and civilization which I wrote about it in “Religion is the enemy of civilization”. It applies to all of them.
I am focusing on my countries problem so you and/or others free to write about other religions or whatever you want to write.
They’re concerning one group of people because mostly I am writing about Iran, Iranians and their problems.
It’s rude to ask such questions. You want to associate my posts to propaganda against Muslims. Go ahead, have fun! Because it’s simpler for Muslim community to associate
People who criticize their practices to anything they want, it’s normal in Iran and Arabic countries.
I do not share same mentality with you, such as Muslim or ex-Muslim! Everyone can be brave.
Also I will respond to all other sections of your comment in an article asap.
Danial:
I am ready to debate with anyone, else it up ot you.
* else is up to you.
Jina:
it’s good to see changes. thanks.
Fariborz, your arrogance is astounding. The moderators of this website have every right to monitor content that discredits this network, and this include your posts as well. You are not free to write absolutely anything especially if it has racist or hateful implications. Don’t dare use the “freedom of speech” card against this site’s mission. You can even read how distasteful your entries are in this post, by an excellent author at this website. Many people here find your posts stupid, generalizational, and pointless, yet we still allow you to publish them. Don’t whine to me about “free speech” when you are harming this site’s overall quality.
Complaints against this website are to be done via e-mail, NOT via new posts in this website that are nothing but provocative. Let it be known now that if you publish mere and useless complaints, it will be immediately deleted. You have spammed your ideas in over 3 threads now, and we won’t let you take over the website with it. People work hard over posts that actually make good sense and inspire good debates, instead of welcoming shallow remarks.
Do NOT publish a new entry about this when you have this thread to argue your comments in. Anything irrelevant and repetitive will not be welcome. Don’t treat this site as your personal diaries. You have anything to say concerning my comments; do it HERE, NOT in a new post. Is this understood?
Even after a public apology, you have proven to be extremely ungrateful and undeserving. What a shame. Your arrogance certainly won’t let you get away with this bullshit any longer. New articles are for new posts and ideas, not another format to publish comments in. You are free to write it here, where it’s relevant. If it’s in a new post, it will be deleted.
“Danial:
Get over it.”
Take your own advice FariDork. Go back to ActivistChat or LFG you failed abortion.
It’s a shame your parents didn’t abort you as a fetus when they had the chance to. Such opportunity now lost forever.
Start by venturing to this site and go from there, if you feel cocky enough.
Don’t cry because you bitches whine over a Hollywood movie gloating about some past which is long gone.
Esra’a:
So you can’t read. I should repeat myself again:
You shouldn’t even ask me about my entries, because you’re not a censorship content operator, are you? I am free to write what I want while I am following policy.
Prove me where did you I use against this site’s misison?
Freedom of Speech is the right of everyone whether you like it or not.
I am not writing because I wanted to please everybody. This is Freedom of writing. which you’re trying so hard to dispense me from writing.
and now are you talking from many people? who are they? are they people who support your idea? or is there any of them, is supporting the right of people? it can be your personal opinion, it is ok. It doesn’t bother me because I am not here to please you. Talk for yourself.
Do I whine to you? I know my rights and I never whine anybody.
It depends on how do you define overall quality?
1. There is no such thing in the policy section of website.
2. I am not going to write complaints. I am seriously very happy.
1. How do you define useless?
2. Useless for whom?
3. My complaint in this post was great and proved that freedom of speech can be in practice in MEY.
Did I spam? show me, where?
What does it make you think like that? why would I want to take over? How can you even think like this? The idea of overcoming and stuff like that, only belongs to kids.
Well done.
Don’t worry! Did my post upset you?
Didn’t you understand what I wrote? I guess your comment comes from misunderstanding.
What does it make you think like this? I thanked for your public apology and I think, it’s still in the site. But it doesn’t stop me of thinking about the outrage. I will provide my behaviour analysis if you want.
where is my arrogance? I am very humble person and I still believe that we can be good friends although you are not only attack my idea (which is your right) but you attack personaly which you don’t have any right.
I forgive you.
No dobut about it. Always new ideas
Who defines relevancy? you? or policy? it should be policy.
If relevancy is a matter of subject, why some people like Danial write any irrelevant comments? why don’t you delete them? why isn’t any hot reactions from you?
Fariboy, stop whining like a child and go read the article “scientific fundamentalists.” It really puts ignorant idiots like you in place.
Danial:
Don’t worry about it.
This is how it works. Write a new article in MEY and invite people for debate.