Comments on: Syrian Bride http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/09/21/syrian-bride/ Thinking Ahead Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:46:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Madmax http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/09/21/syrian-bride/#comment-13100 Madmax Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:02:36 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/09/21/syrian-bride/#comment-13100 <blockquote>Has anyone ever heard of the story where all the wives of the World leaders stop having intercourse with their husbands so they wise up and act like decent forward thinking people? Im not sure who wrote it or if it was a joke…but what if?!</blockquote> Omid, I think that story is based off an old Greek comedy called "lysistrata" by Aristophanes. In that play, women refuse sex with their husbands in order to stop the Peloponnesian war.

Has anyone ever heard of the story where all the wives of the World leaders stop having intercourse with their husbands so they wise up and act like decent forward thinking people? Im not sure who wrote it or if it was a joke…but what if?!

Omid, I think that story is based off an old Greek comedy called “lysistrata” by Aristophanes. In that play, women refuse sex with their husbands in order to stop the Peloponnesian war.

]]> By: leah http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/09/21/syrian-bride/#comment-13099 leah Mon, 24 Sep 2007 07:09:18 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/09/21/syrian-bride/#comment-13099 I saw the film The Syrian Bride. Everyone I know who saw it cried at the end. Wishing for open borders in the Middle East.... I saw the film The Syrian Bride. Everyone I know who saw it cried at the end.

Wishing for open borders in the Middle East….

]]> By: nadia http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/09/21/syrian-bride/#comment-13098 nadia Mon, 24 Sep 2007 02:08:02 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/09/21/syrian-bride/#comment-13098 i'm not trying to be confrontational and i understand what you meant but i don't know anyone that considers themselves a feminist and holds this view, including a few people getting phd's in women's studies. weird. i’m not trying to be confrontational and i understand what you meant but i don’t know anyone that considers themselves a feminist and holds this view, including a few people getting phd’s in women’s studies. weird.

]]> By: Tamara (Syria & UAE) http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/09/21/syrian-bride/#comment-13097 Tamara (Syria & UAE) Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:58:15 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/09/21/syrian-bride/#comment-13097 The funny thing is, when I initially wrote this post I did not write <blockquote>- and I don’t believe having such dreams is anti feminist -</blockquote> I only added that after I thought about the possible reactions some people may have had to it. (That thought deriving from my own personal experiences). And let me just clarify, I do not think that all feminists would feel that way, but there are unfortunately some that take feminism to extremes, such as Esra'a pointed out <blockquote>Then the feminists make the argument that such women are apparently ignorant of their own oppression, that they can’t possibly make that choice if they were “educated.”</blockquote> The funny thing is, when I initially wrote this post I did not write

- and I don’t believe having such dreams is anti feminist -

I only added that after I thought about the possible reactions some people may have had to it. (That thought deriving from my own personal experiences).

And let me just clarify, I do not think that all feminists would feel that way, but there are unfortunately some that take feminism to extremes, such as Esra’a pointed out

Then the feminists make the argument that such women are apparently ignorant of their own oppression, that they can’t possibly make that choice if they were “educated.”

]]> By: Gary (Guest author) http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/09/21/syrian-bride/#comment-13096 Gary (Guest author) Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:50:57 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/09/21/syrian-bride/#comment-13096 Esra, I don't see the word "certain" anywhere in her writings. Maybe it's too early here and I haven't had my coffee yet :) gary Esra, I don’t see the word “certain” anywhere in her writings. Maybe it’s too early here and I haven’t had my coffee yet :)

gary

]]> By: Esra'a http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/09/21/syrian-bride/#comment-13095 Esra'a Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:40:34 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/09/21/syrian-bride/#comment-13095 Even after re-reading I fail to see how that's in any way a generalization when words "certain" and "many" (as opposed to "most" or "all") are emphasized. You shouldn't be overly sensitive/defensive. Even after re-reading I fail to see how that’s in any way a generalization when words “certain” and “many” (as opposed to “most” or “all”) are emphasized. You shouldn’t be overly sensitive/defensive.

]]> By: Gary (Guest author) http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/09/21/syrian-bride/#comment-13094 Gary (Guest author) Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:38:02 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/09/21/syrian-bride/#comment-13094 Tamara, you said <em>"There are many people, especially women, and especially in the West..."</em>. Even after re-reading it, it sounds to me like a generalization of western beliefs, but thanks for the clarification. gary Tamara, you said “There are many people, especially women, and especially in the West…”. Even after re-reading it, it sounds to me like a generalization of western beliefs, but thanks for the clarification.

gary

]]> By: Tamara (Syria & UAE) http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/09/21/syrian-bride/#comment-13093 Tamara (Syria & UAE) Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:17:10 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/09/21/syrian-bride/#comment-13093 Thank you Esra'a, I was trying specifically not to make any generalisations. Also, living in the West myself (UK) I have encountered numerous women who would call themselves 'feminist' and who would outright reject my ideas(about this marriage issue anyway). Thank you Esra’a, I was trying specifically not to make any generalisations.

Also, living in the West myself (UK) I have encountered numerous women who would call themselves ‘feminist’ and who would outright reject my ideas(about this marriage issue anyway).

]]> By: Esra'a http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/09/21/syrian-bride/#comment-13092 Esra'a Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:18:44 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/09/21/syrian-bride/#comment-13092 Gary, she did not say it's a Western belief. She said "certain women" .. "especially in the West"... believe this. Therefore she did not generalize or claim that this only happens in the West. Gary, she did not say it’s a Western belief. She said “certain women” .. “especially in the West”… believe this. Therefore she did not generalize or claim that this only happens in the West.

]]> By: Gary (Guest author) http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/09/21/syrian-bride/#comment-13091 Gary (Guest author) Sat, 22 Sep 2007 05:27:39 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/09/21/syrian-bride/#comment-13091 Tamara, I live in the west (USA). For the record I don't see any conflict between womens rights and dreaming of the perfect wedding. What makes you think this is a west belief? gary Tamara,

I live in the west (USA). For the record I don’t see any conflict between womens rights and dreaming of the perfect wedding. What makes you think this is a west belief?

gary

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