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		<title>By: MyTwoCents</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/04/woman-to-be-stoned-we-have-to-stop-it/#comment-13599</link>
		<dc:creator>MyTwoCents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 03:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I suggested what those in the West could do to help improve human rights in Iran. Stop threatening Iran and set the example by prosecuting our high level war criminals.&quot;
You think that if America sets a good example the IRI will willingly follow? America puts great importance on assuring that executions are quick and painless: the IRI doesn&#039;t seem to be following &lt;strong&gt;that&lt;/strong&gt; example!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I suggested what those in the West could do to help improve human rights in Iran. Stop threatening Iran and set the example by prosecuting our high level war criminals.&#8221;<br />
You think that if America sets a good example the IRI will willingly follow? America puts great importance on assuring that executions are quick and painless: the IRI doesn&#8217;t seem to be following <strong>that</strong> example!</p>
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		<title>By: Mohammad Memarian (Iran)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/04/woman-to-be-stoned-we-have-to-stop-it/#comment-13598</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohammad Memarian (Iran)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 01:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(to all)

awful was the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.qudsdaily.com/archive/1386/html/7/1386-07-05/page58.html#11&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;original news&lt;/a&gt; kamangir referred to:
&quot;a woman goes to the police telling that a man is threatening her and trying extortion. a lawsuit if filled, and when the court calls the man, he provides some porn videos and pics to prove that the woman has done all the things without any threat by man. court sentences the man to 100 lashes for the man was single, and woman is sentenced to death by stoning for she has been married to another man.&quot;

its much more horrible if the woman has been right and the man has been a tyrant.... do you think a judge can find enough evidences in a home-made video to get convinced that the woman has done it delibaretly?

and another scenario is also possible: the woman has done something wrong (not necessarily) at the very beginning. after it, the man has threatened her all the way to exploit her... and such sad stories would never be found on a video...

shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(to all)</p>
<p>awful was the <a href="http://www.qudsdaily.com/archive/1386/html/7/1386-07-05/page58.html#11" rel="nofollow">original news</a> kamangir referred to:<br />
&#8220;a woman goes to the police telling that a man is threatening her and trying extortion. a lawsuit if filled, and when the court calls the man, he provides some porn videos and pics to prove that the woman has done all the things without any threat by man. court sentences the man to 100 lashes for the man was single, and woman is sentenced to death by stoning for she has been married to another man.&#8221;</p>
<p>its much more horrible if the woman has been right and the man has been a tyrant&#8230;. do you think a judge can find enough evidences in a home-made video to get convinced that the woman has done it delibaretly?</p>
<p>and another scenario is also possible: the woman has done something wrong (not necessarily) at the very beginning. after it, the man has threatened her all the way to exploit her&#8230; and such sad stories would never be found on a video&#8230;</p>
<p>shame.</p>
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		<title>By: AMT</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/04/woman-to-be-stoned-we-have-to-stop-it/#comment-13597</link>
		<dc:creator>AMT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Esra&#039;a I think ERS was just looking for a petition to sign, or a website to check out that would give her direction to any legal or public action she could take to prevent the stoning.

I was looking for one too after the fact, and it would be great to visit Eteraz.com to sign the petition ERS if you have the time to do that. Everyone&#039;s help counts, even by reading the article and spreading the word.

Stoning is still applied in Iran and there IS a way to help stop it- in fact, as an example you&#039;d just have to look at Nazanin Fatehi&#039;s case. She was going to be executed for defending herself and her cousin by killing one of the men who were attempting to rape them. She was going to die but fortunately with the help of those measly &quot;Westerners&quot; [who seem to only care about foreigners while &quot;high level war criminals&quot; renege in their pools of oil-money] who signed the petitions and following a movement to stop it she was saved. She wasn&#039;t executed. Just by spreading the word and getting letters out to local TV stations or by signing the petition and offering some support to organize a movement against the stoning can lead to diplomatic and or public pressure from the world against Iran.

Why is it not okay to talk about the crimes being committed in Iran and to actively seek to disseminate information regarding human rights abuses within Iran from the West? I think Randall, you may need to reconsider what this post is aiming to do. Spread the news about such an atrocity. It&#039;s unfortunate that you think we shouldn&#039;t discuss the human rights abuses within in Iran but instead focus on the evil Bush empire...really, why don&#039;t you take your argument to a forum where they discuss American social and political issues then? It just seems natural to me to be able to be an activist for human rights in Iran and not LIVE in Iran...if you think about it, so many activists are thrown in Jail and yet they attempt to correspond and spread knowledge from their jail cell...technically, they&#039;re inside the country but obviously they aren&#039;t dealing with the same issues that an activist living outside in the streets would be. However, they can still be intertwined just like bloggers on the outside are connected to the people in the streets of Iran.

War will be inevitable. You think that by ignoring the abuses within Iran, there won&#039;t be a war? What do you think would stop war? If it isn&#039;t war with Iran, it&#039;ll be war with another country. If you want to get rid of &quot;high level&quot; warlords in the States, then do it but you could be in the wrong forum for that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Esra&#8217;a I think ERS was just looking for a petition to sign, or a website to check out that would give her direction to any legal or public action she could take to prevent the stoning.</p>
<p>I was looking for one too after the fact, and it would be great to visit Eteraz.com to sign the petition ERS if you have the time to do that. Everyone&#8217;s help counts, even by reading the article and spreading the word.</p>
<p>Stoning is still applied in Iran and there IS a way to help stop it- in fact, as an example you&#8217;d just have to look at Nazanin Fatehi&#8217;s case. She was going to be executed for defending herself and her cousin by killing one of the men who were attempting to rape them. She was going to die but fortunately with the help of those measly &#8220;Westerners&#8221; [who seem to only care about foreigners while "high level war criminals" renege in their pools of oil-money] who signed the petitions and following a movement to stop it she was saved. She wasn&#8217;t executed. Just by spreading the word and getting letters out to local TV stations or by signing the petition and offering some support to organize a movement against the stoning can lead to diplomatic and or public pressure from the world against Iran.</p>
<p>Why is it not okay to talk about the crimes being committed in Iran and to actively seek to disseminate information regarding human rights abuses within Iran from the West? I think Randall, you may need to reconsider what this post is aiming to do. Spread the news about such an atrocity. It&#8217;s unfortunate that you think we shouldn&#8217;t discuss the human rights abuses within in Iran but instead focus on the evil Bush empire&#8230;really, why don&#8217;t you take your argument to a forum where they discuss American social and political issues then? It just seems natural to me to be able to be an activist for human rights in Iran and not LIVE in Iran&#8230;if you think about it, so many activists are thrown in Jail and yet they attempt to correspond and spread knowledge from their jail cell&#8230;technically, they&#8217;re inside the country but obviously they aren&#8217;t dealing with the same issues that an activist living outside in the streets would be. However, they can still be intertwined just like bloggers on the outside are connected to the people in the streets of Iran.</p>
<p>War will be inevitable. You think that by ignoring the abuses within Iran, there won&#8217;t be a war? What do you think would stop war? If it isn&#8217;t war with Iran, it&#8217;ll be war with another country. If you want to get rid of &#8220;high level&#8221; warlords in the States, then do it but you could be in the wrong forum for that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Esra'a</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/04/woman-to-be-stoned-we-have-to-stop-it/#comment-13596</link>
		<dc:creator>Esra'a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 22:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
I’m not criticizing MEY. . .just the headline, which implies some action, but then suggests none. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
We suggest action and we do take action on a hell of a lot of other topics, we cannot possibly be expected to take action on every single injustice in our region. It&#039;s crazy to expect that from us. It&#039;s called Mideast Youth, not Mideast Superheroes, after all.</description>
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I’m not criticizing MEY. . .just the headline, which implies some action, but then suggests none. </p></blockquote>
<p>We suggest action and we do take action on a hell of a lot of other topics, we cannot possibly be expected to take action on every single injustice in our region. It&#8217;s crazy to expect that from us. It&#8217;s called Mideast Youth, not Mideast Superheroes, after all.</p>
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		<title>By: RandallJones</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/04/woman-to-be-stoned-we-have-to-stop-it/#comment-13595</link>
		<dc:creator>RandallJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 22:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;ERS,&lt;/strong&gt;

I have already suggested some actions.  What human rights problems are you working on?  Maybe we can learn from you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>ERS,</strong></p>
<p>I have already suggested some actions.  What human rights problems are you working on?  Maybe we can learn from you.</p>
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		<title>By: ERS</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/04/woman-to-be-stoned-we-have-to-stop-it/#comment-13594</link>
		<dc:creator>ERS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 22:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not criticizing MEY. . .just the headline, which implies some action, but then suggests none.  I think it was imcumbent upon the person who initiated this discussion either to write a headline reflective of the content of the post, to suggest actions that can be taken to stop this particular stoning (since he sounds the alarm and implies that is what is needed), and/or to solicit ideas from people who have some expertise in this.

I have my hands more than full working on a different human rights problem.  I have no expertise on stoning, and what I know about Iran wouldn&#039;t fill a teacup.  Just out of my depth on this one, but I read this post hoping to learn something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not criticizing MEY. . .just the headline, which implies some action, but then suggests none.  I think it was imcumbent upon the person who initiated this discussion either to write a headline reflective of the content of the post, to suggest actions that can be taken to stop this particular stoning (since he sounds the alarm and implies that is what is needed), and/or to solicit ideas from people who have some expertise in this.</p>
<p>I have my hands more than full working on a different human rights problem.  I have no expertise on stoning, and what I know about Iran wouldn&#8217;t fill a teacup.  Just out of my depth on this one, but I read this post hoping to learn something.</p>
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		<title>By: RandallJones</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/04/woman-to-be-stoned-we-have-to-stop-it/#comment-13593</link>
		<dc:creator>RandallJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 17:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danial,

I knew of Eteraz before you linked to it.  My comments are on topic.  I suggested what those in the West could do to help improve human rights in Iran.  Stop threatening Iran and set the example by prosecuting our high level war criminals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danial,</p>
<p>I knew of Eteraz before you linked to it.  My comments are on topic.  I suggested what those in the West could do to help improve human rights in Iran.  Stop threatening Iran and set the example by prosecuting our high level war criminals.</p>
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		<title>By: Danial</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/04/woman-to-be-stoned-we-have-to-stop-it/#comment-13592</link>
		<dc:creator>Danial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 16:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But Eteraz has not called for a petition to our American president to stop the burning and crushing of the heads of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Afghanis by the bombs and chemical weapons of the United States. He has not called for the prosecution of high level officials in the Bush Administration for war crimes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Can you stay on topic?

FYI Ali has criticized high level officials in this administration. You might want to check out www.eteraz.org sometime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But Eteraz has not called for a petition to our American president to stop the burning and crushing of the heads of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Afghanis by the bombs and chemical weapons of the United States. He has not called for the prosecution of high level officials in the Bush Administration for war crimes.</p></blockquote>
<p>Can you stay on topic?</p>
<p>FYI Ali has criticized high level officials in this administration. You might want to check out <a href="http://www.eteraz.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.eteraz.org</a> sometime.</p>
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		<title>By: RandallJones</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/04/woman-to-be-stoned-we-have-to-stop-it/#comment-13591</link>
		<dc:creator>RandallJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 16:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danial,

Regarding that link you put to the petition on Ali Eteraz&#039;s website, the last I heard Eteraz was living in the United States.  He wants us, Westerners t sign a petition to the Supreme Iranian Leader Ayatollah Khameini regarding the stoning of women.

But Eteraz has not called for a petition to our American president to stop the burning and crushing of the heads of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Afghanis by the bombs and chemical weapons of the United States. He has not called for the prosecution of high level officials in the Bush Administration for war crimes.

Theoretically, since we live in a democracy it should be more easier for us to make change.  But in reality it hasn&#039;t been easy.  SO that&#039;s why you get people like Eteraz and other puttijg all their attention on creating petitions to solve the wrongs of other people&#039;s countries instead of their own.

If we want to help the activists in Iran with their goals of improving human rights, we should be trying to stop the United States, Israel and certain European counties from threatening to bomb or invade the country.The people in Iran will take care of the rest.

Here is an interesting article to get a better understanding

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&lt;strong&gt;“Iranians will not allow a single U.S. soldier to set foot in Iran,” declares Ebadi, and this is a woman who has been imprisoned by Iran’s hardliners and is constantly harassed for her work on behalf of political prisoners.

Armchair warriors, such as William Kristol, have been claiming that intense bombing of Iran will lead to an uprising by Iranians. The absurd argument is that, “We will destroy Iran, but Iranians will love us for bombing them, and hate the hardliners.” Although a large majority of Iranians despise the hardliners, anyone who has the slightest familiarity with Iran’s history knows that intense bombing of Iran will not lead to their downfall. Rather, it will help them consolidate power.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
complete article at http://www.progressive.org/node/4253</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danial,</p>
<p>Regarding that link you put to the petition on Ali Eteraz&#8217;s website, the last I heard Eteraz was living in the United States.  He wants us, Westerners t sign a petition to the Supreme Iranian Leader Ayatollah Khameini regarding the stoning of women.</p>
<p>But Eteraz has not called for a petition to our American president to stop the burning and crushing of the heads of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Afghanis by the bombs and chemical weapons of the United States. He has not called for the prosecution of high level officials in the Bush Administration for war crimes.</p>
<p>Theoretically, since we live in a democracy it should be more easier for us to make change.  But in reality it hasn&#8217;t been easy.  SO that&#8217;s why you get people like Eteraz and other puttijg all their attention on creating petitions to solve the wrongs of other people&#8217;s countries instead of their own.</p>
<p>If we want to help the activists in Iran with their goals of improving human rights, we should be trying to stop the United States, Israel and certain European counties from threatening to bomb or invade the country.The people in Iran will take care of the rest.</p>
<p>Here is an interesting article to get a better understanding</p>
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<strong>“Iranians will not allow a single U.S. soldier to set foot in Iran,” declares Ebadi, and this is a woman who has been imprisoned by Iran’s hardliners and is constantly harassed for her work on behalf of political prisoners.</p>
<p>Armchair warriors, such as William Kristol, have been claiming that intense bombing of Iran will lead to an uprising by Iranians. The absurd argument is that, “We will destroy Iran, but Iranians will love us for bombing them, and hate the hardliners.” Although a large majority of Iranians despise the hardliners, anyone who has the slightest familiarity with Iran’s history knows that intense bombing of Iran will not lead to their downfall. Rather, it will help them consolidate power.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>complete article at <a href="http://www.progressive.org/node/4253" rel="nofollow">http://www.progressive.org/node/4253</a></p>
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		<title>By: RandallJones</title>
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		<dc:creator>RandallJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 16:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PeacefulVanguard, you wrote &lt;em&gt;&quot;Look at Burma. Nobody is trying to bomb them. Exposure of abuse doesn’t have to mean bombs, it can mean many other forms of engagement.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Compare Burma to Iraq. NO one points out that Buddhist monks have participated in the repression and that the military junta ruling Burma are Buddhists. &lt;strong&gt;Does anyone know the name of the people in charge of the Burmese regime?  Yet we know the name of the noble peace prize winner Aung San Suu Kyi.&lt;/strong&gt; With Saddam Huseein, even though he was secular was always linked to Muslim extremists.

The media kept on saying that Saddam Hussein was killing his own people, but they left out that the United States had helped Saddam into power and supported him, strategically and financially, when he was committing his worst atrocities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PeacefulVanguard, you wrote <em>&#8220;Look at Burma. Nobody is trying to bomb them. Exposure of abuse doesn’t have to mean bombs, it can mean many other forms of engagement.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Compare Burma to Iraq. NO one points out that Buddhist monks have participated in the repression and that the military junta ruling Burma are Buddhists. <strong>Does anyone know the name of the people in charge of the Burmese regime?  Yet we know the name of the noble peace prize winner Aung San Suu Kyi.</strong> With Saddam Huseein, even though he was secular was always linked to Muslim extremists.</p>
<p>The media kept on saying that Saddam Hussein was killing his own people, but they left out that the United States had helped Saddam into power and supported him, strategically and financially, when he was committing his worst atrocities.</p>
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