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> <channel><title>Comments on: Interview with an Arab atheist, Part II</title> <atom:link href="http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/</link> <description>Promoting a fierce but respectful dialogue among the highly diverse youth of the Middle East</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:44:40 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Dennis</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-285819</link> <dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:43:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-285819</guid> <description>I was raised Roman Catholic and taught to believe in God, Jesus, the Ten Commandments, an immortal soul, and heaven &amp; hell. By the time I was 10 years old, something inside my mind lead me to feel that this stuff just didn&#039;t make sense. People don&#039;t need religion to live a moral and ethical lifestyle. Religions cause more harm than good. Here&#039;s a thought. Divide the planet Earth in half. All religious people live in one half &amp; all athiests live in the other half. After 100 years, guess which side lives more peacefully and has made more social &amp; technological advances? ( hint: don&#039;t bet your money on the religious side).</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was raised Roman Catholic and taught to believe in God, Jesus, the Ten Commandments, an immortal soul, and heaven &amp; hell. By the time I was 10 years old, something inside my mind lead me to feel that this stuff just didn&#8217;t make sense. People don&#8217;t need religion to live a moral and ethical lifestyle. Religions cause more harm than good. Here&#8217;s a thought. Divide the planet Earth in half. All religious people live in one half &amp; all athiests live in the other half. After 100 years, guess which side lives more peacefully and has made more social &amp; technological advances? ( hint: don&#8217;t bet your money on the religious side).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Abd</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-285327</link> <dc:creator>Abd</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:59:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-285327</guid> <description>Hi
I would think that said that you do not generalise then afterward you said many youngesters do not believe that there is not creator. I would not think that Einstein is stupid and he died as jew. and he does not overgenerlise his view over the others as you did in indirect way.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br
/> I would think that said that you do not generalise then afterward you said many youngesters do not believe that there is not creator. I would not think that Einstein is stupid and he died as jew. and he does not overgenerlise his view over the others as you did in indirect way.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sophie Amrain</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-275935</link> <dc:creator>Sophie Amrain</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 08:09:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-275935</guid> <description>Great interview! And respect to you, Esra&#039;a, for conducting it. One of the strongest arguments against the literal truth of religion is the historical context, in my mind. The universe is about 12 billion years old, it contains about 100 billion galaxies each containing about 100 billion suns with possibly a similar number of planets. How come the creator of all of this made a personal appearance on one of these planets about 1500 or 2000 years ago to reveal the truth to humans? It just does not scale! Even within the context of human history, all three Abrahamitic religions got started a few hundred thousand years after the evolution of homo sapiens, our species (and 4000 years after the first cities were built). It seems somewhat injust to leave all the previous generations in the dark.
These deliberations notwithstanding I agree with Sara, if religion and faith works for someone, that is perfectly ok, and nothing to frown upon. In any case, feelings of awe and reverence are part of the human psyche, quite independent from the targets organized religion gave them. When I marvel at the complexity and intricacy of life and evolution these feelings may be similar to those a religious person might have contemplating their god.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great interview! And respect to you, Esra&#8217;a, for conducting it. One of the strongest arguments against the literal truth of religion is the historical context, in my mind. The universe is about 12 billion years old, it contains about 100 billion galaxies each containing about 100 billion suns with possibly a similar number of planets. How come the creator of all of this made a personal appearance on one of these planets about 1500 or 2000 years ago to reveal the truth to humans? It just does not scale! Even within the context of human history, all three Abrahamitic religions got started a few hundred thousand years after the evolution of homo sapiens, our species (and 4000 years after the first cities were built). It seems somewhat injust to leave all the previous generations in the dark.</p><p>These deliberations notwithstanding I agree with Sara, if religion and faith works for someone, that is perfectly ok, and nothing to frown upon. In any case, feelings of awe and reverence are part of the human psyche, quite independent from the targets organized religion gave them. When I marvel at the complexity and intricacy of life and evolution these feelings may be similar to those a religious person might have contemplating their god.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ghassan (Jordan)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-268547</link> <dc:creator>Ghassan (Jordan)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:24:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-268547</guid> <description>&lt;strong&gt;I never actually thought there would be that many numbers of atheists here, in the Arab world.
I enjoyed how you, Sara, actually understand what you are talking about and rather than just follow other people&#039;s opinions. I am definitely impressed.
I love this: &quot;I’m a big fan of science. No evidence, no argument.&quot;
And I do agree; some people really are stupid. :)Good luck. :)&lt;/strong&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>I never actually thought there would be that many numbers of atheists here, in the Arab world.<br
/> I enjoyed how you, Sara, actually understand what you are talking about and rather than just follow other people&#8217;s opinions. I am definitely impressed.<br
/> I love this: &#8220;I’m a big fan of science. No evidence, no argument.&#8221;<br
/> And I do agree; some people really are stupid. <img
src='http://www.mideastyouth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>Good luck. <img
src='http://www.mideastyouth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </strong></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Santhosh Babu. K</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-249681</link> <dc:creator>Santhosh Babu. K</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 08:56:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-249681</guid> <description>Fantastic courage expressed by Sara Sultan. Expect more like this from Arabs.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic courage expressed by Sara Sultan. Expect more like this from Arabs.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Peteris</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-247969</link> <dc:creator>Peteris</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:34:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-247969</guid> <description>Bravo. Thanks for being the highlight of my day.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo. Thanks for being the highlight of my day.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: assaf</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-245785</link> <dc:creator>assaf</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 01:25:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-245785</guid> <description>Peace!
from a peace craving Atheist jew (as in nation not faith).may all humanity live in harmony regardless of faith.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peace!<br
/> from a peace craving Atheist jew (as in nation not faith).</p><p>may all humanity live in harmony regardless of faith.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Esra'a (Bahrain)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-199500</link> <dc:creator>Esra'a (Bahrain)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:31:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-199500</guid> <description>Interesting, YKSBS. I sent you an e-mail and hope you receive it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, YKSBS. I sent you an e-mail and hope you receive it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: YKSBS</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-199490</link> <dc:creator>YKSBS</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:08:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-199490</guid> <description>Its absurd to hear others claim that the only purpose we, as non-believers, have is to destroy religion and society in general. I&#039;m Emirati and I love my country; even though most of them disapprove of me and my beliefs, I still love my country, it&#039;s culture and Middle-Eastern culture in general.
I&#039;ve went through people trying to force me into admitting that my choices are wrong and should be changed (and I&#039;m not talking about Muslims only). Even when people see me as open, accepting and trustworthy, they turn the other way when they find out my personality; but if they love me (or as they claim) they try to change me.
Not only am I an Atheist, but I am also Homosexual. What I found shocking among people, especially among my &quot;faithful&quot; straight friends, is that they are more willing to talk about homosexuality than they are over Atheism or Agnosticism; whenever that subject opens, their reactions are always ambiguous.
I respect my friends and their opinions, but the subject should be discussed more openly so that all stereotypes that revolve around Atheists, Agnostics and non-believers in general are debunked.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its absurd to hear others claim that the only purpose we, as non-believers, have is to destroy religion and society in general. I&#8217;m Emirati and I love my country; even though most of them disapprove of me and my beliefs, I still love my country, it&#8217;s culture and Middle-Eastern culture in general.<br
/> I&#8217;ve went through people trying to force me into admitting that my choices are wrong and should be changed (and I&#8217;m not talking about Muslims only). Even when people see me as open, accepting and trustworthy, they turn the other way when they find out my personality; but if they love me (or as they claim) they try to change me.<br
/> Not only am I an Atheist, but I am also Homosexual. What I found shocking among people, especially among my &#8220;faithful&#8221; straight friends, is that they are more willing to talk about homosexuality than they are over Atheism or Agnosticism; whenever that subject opens, their reactions are always ambiguous.<br
/> I respect my friends and their opinions, but the subject should be discussed more openly so that all stereotypes that revolve around Atheists, Agnostics and non-believers in general are debunked.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Andre M.</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-184333</link> <dc:creator>Andre M.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 01:29:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-184333</guid> <description>I am very impressed by Sara. I wish I had her courage to be vocal about my atheist views.I have been an atheist for about 12 years (since I was 10), and never have I had the courage to tell any of my family or close friends.I remember when I was younger and living with my parents, they would nag me to pray, and I would pretend to pray just to stop the nagging. I would go to the Mosque also to stop the nagging. She is exceptional, because she is an Arab atheist in the open, &quot;in-the-closet&quot; is the norm for atheist Arabs, whether in the Arab world or in the west like me.Just a final comment, I have studied Abrahamic religions in depth (went to catholic school and learned Islam at home), and I share Sara&#039;s view that it isn&#039;t religion that is bad, it is people who can be good or bad. The reason I am not a Muslim isn&#039;t because I hold any grudge against Islam or its followers; it is simply because I do not find the existence of a deity to be consistent with my logic.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very impressed by Sara. I wish I had her courage to be vocal about my atheist views.</p><p>I have been an atheist for about 12 years (since I was 10), and never have I had the courage to tell any of my family or close friends.</p><p>I remember when I was younger and living with my parents, they would nag me to pray, and I would pretend to pray just to stop the nagging. I would go to the Mosque also to stop the nagging. She is exceptional, because she is an Arab atheist in the open, &#8220;in-the-closet&#8221; is the norm for atheist Arabs, whether in the Arab world or in the west like me.</p><p>Just a final comment, I have studied Abrahamic religions in depth (went to catholic school and learned Islam at home), and I share Sara&#8217;s view that it isn&#8217;t religion that is bad, it is people who can be good or bad. The reason I am not a Muslim isn&#8217;t because I hold any grudge against Islam or its followers; it is simply because I do not find the existence of a deity to be consistent with my logic.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Flic (New Zealand)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-165437</link> <dc:creator>Flic (New Zealand)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:41:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-165437</guid> <description>What a refreshing interview. You echo my thoughts and sentiments to a tee - Go girl! Fabulous site and great to learn about this forum. Free speech is essential to the development of liberty and to the prevalence of interfaith and zerofaith understanding and tolerance.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a refreshing interview. You echo my thoughts and sentiments to a tee &#8211; Go girl! Fabulous site and great to learn about this forum. Free speech is essential to the development of liberty and to the prevalence of interfaith and zerofaith understanding and tolerance.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Abdullah Cevdet</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-147352</link> <dc:creator>Abdullah Cevdet</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 19:05:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-147352</guid> <description>Nice interview. Good to know the Middle-East isn&#039;t only &#039;Arabic&#039; or &#039;Islamic&#039; and very diverse.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice interview. Good to know the Middle-East isn&#8217;t only &#8216;Arabic&#8217; or &#8216;Islamic&#8217; and very diverse.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Laith</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-98025</link> <dc:creator>Laith</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 21:00:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-98025</guid> <description>@Abdullah:
Int 7ashara, jahel, ew 3adoo nafsak.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Abdullah:<br
/> Int 7ashara, jahel, ew 3adoo nafsak.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Abdullah</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-97812</link> <dc:creator>Abdullah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 15:31:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-97812</guid> <description>جهنم وبئس المصير</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>جهنم وبئس المصير</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lord Kavi (Iran)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-78725</link> <dc:creator>Lord Kavi (Iran)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 21:01:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-78725</guid> <description>What a nice interview! She&#039;s a well-informed atheist and is an atheist as one should be!I think (of reading comments), many enjoyed of her speech and found some great headlines to use in an utopia society!Yeah, the atheism dream: To live and let live! To think about some fundamentals, and to find out if our way of understanding the universe is right or not. To see if religion is useful for our life or not! and at the end: does any god exist or not!Like Sara, I&#039;ve invited everyone to think about fundamentals of his/her beliefs (check out my weblog for more) and Here again I just wanna say if Sara&#039;s idealogy is interesting for you, then read about it; may be you find your way! (If atheism is fine then take it; if sucks, loose it; there&#039;s no obligations dudes)I&#039;m not preacher of something; but I think I&#039;m a &quot;free thinker!!!&quot;; and understood that its great to find your way on your own, not inheriting your parents gene of religion!So move on men!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a nice interview! She&#8217;s a well-informed atheist and is an atheist as one should be!</p><p>I think (of reading comments), many enjoyed of her speech and found some great headlines to use in an utopia society!</p><p>Yeah, the atheism dream: To live and let live! To think about some fundamentals, and to find out if our way of understanding the universe is right or not. To see if religion is useful for our life or not! and at the end: does any god exist or not!</p><p>Like Sara, I&#8217;ve invited everyone to think about fundamentals of his/her beliefs (check out my weblog for more) and Here again I just wanna say if Sara&#8217;s idealogy is interesting for you, then read about it; may be you find your way! (If atheism is fine then take it; if sucks, loose it; there&#8217;s no obligations dudes)</p><p>I&#8217;m not preacher of something; but I think I&#8217;m a &#8220;free thinker!!!&#8221;; and understood that its great to find your way on your own, not inheriting your parents gene of religion!</p><p>So move on men!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Esra'a</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-74746</link> <dc:creator>Esra'a</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:18:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-74746</guid> <description>Thanks TL, but I am not the one being respectful here: the people I interview are the ones who showed me nothing but respect and all I did was return the treatment. They face threats, abuse (both emotional and sometimes physical) and extreme censorship. Yet they are still open, understanding and generally respectful... without generalizing or hating their societies. It&#039;s inspirational to meet these great young minds; &quot;free thinkers&quot; as Sara puts it, despite disagreeing with their theories completely I do admire their strength and tolerance.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks TL, but I am not the one being respectful here: the people I interview are the ones who showed me nothing but respect and all I did was return the treatment. They face threats, abuse (both emotional and sometimes physical) and extreme censorship. Yet they are still open, understanding and generally respectful&#8230; without generalizing or hating their societies. It&#8217;s inspirational to meet these great young minds; &#8220;free thinkers&#8221; as Sara puts it, despite disagreeing with their theories completely I do admire their strength and tolerance.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: TeacherLady</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-74745</link> <dc:creator>TeacherLady</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:11:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-74745</guid> <description>Wow, it&#039;s so nice to know I&#039;m not alone. Thanks so much for conducting this interview, especially in such a respectful manner. All I ever got was contempt should I dare express my beliefs. People find it so hard to believe one can have a moral compass without the guidance of a specific religion.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, it&#8217;s so nice to know I&#8217;m not alone. Thanks so much for conducting this interview, especially in such a respectful manner. All I ever got was contempt should I dare express my beliefs. People find it so hard to believe one can have a moral compass without the guidance of a specific religion.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Iain Palin</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-74602</link> <dc:creator>Iain Palin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:55:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-74602</guid> <description>Few Arabs will indeed convert to Zoroastriaism - it&#039;s an Iranian religion and it doesn&#039;t accept converts!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Few Arabs will indeed convert to Zoroastriaism &#8211; it&#8217;s an Iranian religion and it doesn&#8217;t accept converts!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: limpia</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-74450</link> <dc:creator>limpia</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 23:25:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-74450</guid> <description>in usa hijab is allowed in schools, but not niqab ( which is a security risk- different story) i believe the hijab should be allowed, but france , i guess, couldnt deal with it .</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in usa hijab is allowed in schools, but not niqab ( which is a security risk- different story) i believe the hijab should be allowed, but france , i guess, couldnt deal with it .</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Omid T (Iran/USA)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-74384</link> <dc:creator>Omid T (Iran/USA)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:19:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-74384</guid> <description>Ya dude. Take that non-sense somewhere else. Please!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya dude. Take that non-sense somewhere else. Please!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Esra'a</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-74383</link> <dc:creator>Esra'a</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:17:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-74383</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;as well as being rather vocal in my belief that christians, muslims and jews are essentially evil&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I&#039;m sorry, but that is just ridiculous.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>as well as being rather vocal in my belief that christians, muslims and jews are essentially evil</p></blockquote><p>I&#8217;m sorry, but that is just ridiculous.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Frater Titus</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-74379</link> <dc:creator>Frater Titus</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:08:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-74379</guid> <description>Becoming a atheist can be a life threatening proposition. I feel bad that they are persecuted even in this day and age, by inquistors of all stripes.Even still, I recently discovered the truth of Gnostic christianity, which means I&#039;m really in the threaten minority, as well as being rather vocal in my belief that christians, muslims and jews are essentially evil because they worship the Jehova-Allah-Saklas, Demiurge Abomination. The fruit of Abrahamic faith is war and economic oppression, ie caste systems.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Becoming a atheist can be a life threatening proposition. I feel bad that they are persecuted even in this day and age, by inquistors of all stripes.</p><p>Even still, I recently discovered the truth of Gnostic christianity, which means I&#8217;m really in the threaten minority, as well as being rather vocal in my belief that christians, muslims and jews are essentially evil because they worship the Jehova-Allah-Saklas, Demiurge Abomination. The fruit of Abrahamic faith is war and economic oppression, ie caste systems.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Esra'a</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-74324</link> <dc:creator>Esra'a</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:52:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-74324</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;the ban on Islamic Hijab is precisely consistent with and conforming to the principles of a secular regime,&lt;/blockquote&gt;
No, the banning of the Hijab is a violation of human rights. Separation of church and state does not mean denying others the rights to practice their religions freely, it just means that the laws given will not be inspired by or based on strict faith.I am republishing this very important point in her interview which contradicts what you accuse her of:
&lt;blockquote&gt;And if some people independently chose their faith and strongly believe in it, all power to them. It’s still admirable and respectful as long as they don’t shove their beliefs in our faces and make us suffer the unnecessary consequences when we refuse to buy into their myths.&lt;/blockquote&gt;In other words, just because she doesn&#039;t believe in any religions, does not mean that is against them. It is a matter of independent thought. She is not in favor of banning religion, disrespecting religious principles, or denying others the right to practice their belief systems freely as long as they do not inflict harm upon others. What she is against is not religious people but rather the form of society that leaves you no choice but to accept a certain religion, with dire consequences if you don&#039;t.Secondly, she is aware of the hypocrisies you seem to be highlighting, and she spoke against it quite eloquently here:
&lt;blockquote&gt;That would be a very hypocritical thing for me to do since I’m the way I am mostly because I am anti-collectivism and I hate people who bully others into believing certain things or forcing them to live life a certain way.&lt;/blockquote&gt;This means she is in favor of people making independent choices, and if this choice was wearing the Hijab then it should be respected. As long as it&#039;s not imposed, many atheists actually have no problem with religion if kept between a person and a certain God (the previous Arab atheist I interviewed said the same thing.) They are not in favor of religious oppression or of restricting people from the right to choose from and practice their faith. In Arab societies, just like in Iran, faith is imposed. It does not leave any room for independent thought, in many instances children get punished, traumatized or kicked out of school for speaking out against religion and that is what drives many young people in our region to the world of atheism, agnosticism or outright rejection in all its forms. But neither of the atheists I interviewed have any contempt for religious people and none of them want to control others as you claim, in this recent interview she already expressed her opinion concerning that in the light of independence choices. If you choose your faith and to put a Hijab on your head it&#039;s a matter of practicing your rights to independent thought, which she says is &quot;admirable&quot; and &quot;respectful.&quot; But if faith is imposed or you&#039;re forced to place the Hijab on your head no matter what your personal beliefs are, that is not a healthy society, and quite frankly I agree with that even as a Muslim.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the ban on Islamic Hijab is precisely consistent with and conforming to the principles of a secular regime,</p></blockquote><p>No, the banning of the Hijab is a violation of human rights. Separation of church and state does not mean denying others the rights to practice their religions freely, it just means that the laws given will not be inspired by or based on strict faith.</p><p>I am republishing this very important point in her interview which contradicts what you accuse her of:</p><blockquote><p>And if some people independently chose their faith and strongly believe in it, all power to them. It’s still admirable and respectful as long as they don’t shove their beliefs in our faces and make us suffer the unnecessary consequences when we refuse to buy into their myths.</p></blockquote><p>In other words, just because she doesn&#8217;t believe in any religions, does not mean that is against them. It is a matter of independent thought. She is not in favor of banning religion, disrespecting religious principles, or denying others the right to practice their belief systems freely as long as they do not inflict harm upon others. What she is against is not religious people but rather the form of society that leaves you no choice but to accept a certain religion, with dire consequences if you don&#8217;t.</p><p>Secondly, she is aware of the hypocrisies you seem to be highlighting, and she spoke against it quite eloquently here:</p><blockquote><p>That would be a very hypocritical thing for me to do since I’m the way I am mostly because I am anti-collectivism and I hate people who bully others into believing certain things or forcing them to live life a certain way.</p></blockquote><p>This means she is in favor of people making independent choices, and if this choice was wearing the Hijab then it should be respected. As long as it&#8217;s not imposed, many atheists actually have no problem with religion if kept between a person and a certain God (the previous Arab atheist I interviewed said the same thing.) They are not in favor of religious oppression or of restricting people from the right to choose from and practice their faith. In Arab societies, just like in Iran, faith is imposed. It does not leave any room for independent thought, in many instances children get punished, traumatized or kicked out of school for speaking out against religion and that is what drives many young people in our region to the world of atheism, agnosticism or outright rejection in all its forms. But neither of the atheists I interviewed have any contempt for religious people and none of them want to control others as you claim, in this recent interview she already expressed her opinion concerning that in the light of independence choices. If you choose your faith and to put a Hijab on your head it&#8217;s a matter of practicing your rights to independent thought, which she says is &#8220;admirable&#8221; and &#8220;respectful.&#8221; But if faith is imposed or you&#8217;re forced to place the Hijab on your head no matter what your personal beliefs are, that is not a healthy society, and quite frankly I agree with that even as a Muslim.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tamara (Syria &#38; UAE)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-74319</link> <dc:creator>Tamara (Syria &#38; UAE)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:25:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-74319</guid> <description>Mohammad Memarian,I think your theory is hugely flawed. It is not part of secular ideology to supress anyone, from any religion. It is simply a seperation of &#039;Church and State&#039;, where religion no longer plays a role in politics. Something I think that can be very beneficial. A secular society is meant to protect and give freedom to people of any or no religion. Therefore your reasoning which leads you think that the banning of the hijab is automatically accepted by any supporter of a secular government is completely wrong and rather a strange conclusion to reach.I also disagree that all &#039;so-called&#039; Atheists would choose a &#039;secular-liberal&#039; government, whatever you may mean by that. Again, I dont think you can reason the way you do. Just because you support a secular system does not inherently mean you must agree with everything that a given govenrment does or a certain people/person may do within that society.Finally, I dont think anywhere in the interview was there a mention of wanting power.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mohammad Memarian,</p><p>I think your theory is hugely flawed. It is not part of secular ideology to supress anyone, from any religion. It is simply a seperation of &#8216;Church and State&#8217;, where religion no longer plays a role in politics. Something I think that can be very beneficial. A secular society is meant to protect and give freedom to people of any or no religion. Therefore your reasoning which leads you think that the banning of the hijab is automatically accepted by any supporter of a secular government is completely wrong and rather a strange conclusion to reach.</p><p>I also disagree that all &#8217;so-called&#8217; Atheists would choose a &#8217;secular-liberal&#8217; government, whatever you may mean by that. Again, I dont think you can reason the way you do. Just because you support a secular system does not inherently mean you must agree with everything that a given govenrment does or a certain people/person may do within that society.</p><p>Finally, I dont think anywhere in the interview was there a mention of wanting power.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mohammad Memarian (Iran)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-74291</link> <dc:creator>Mohammad Memarian (Iran)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 09:25:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/06/interview-with-an-arab-atheist-part-ii/#comment-74291</guid> <description>that is not very hard to understand, Esra&#039;a. the ban on Islamic Hijab is precisely consistent with and conforming to the principles of a secular regime, and any one who claims otherwise either doesnt know what a secular regime is or cant reason. same applies to the publishing of danish cartoons humiliating prophet muhammad: anybody who is to support freedom of speech in its original meaning, should support that act.now, ask so-called Atheists of their favorite government, and that would be a secular-liberal one for sure. then, opposing such acts (french ban on hijab, publishing danish cartoons, etc.) would be the most insincere thing they can do: they inherently support such acts... and you can find very easily what would happen if they assume the power: hypocrisy will be uncovered.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that is not very hard to understand, Esra&#8217;a. the ban on Islamic Hijab is precisely consistent with and conforming to the principles of a secular regime, and any one who claims otherwise either doesnt know what a secular regime is or cant reason. same applies to the publishing of danish cartoons humiliating prophet muhammad: anybody who is to support freedom of speech in its original meaning, should support that act.</p><p>now, ask so-called Atheists of their favorite government, and that would be a secular-liberal one for sure. then, opposing such acts (french ban on hijab, publishing danish cartoons, etc.) would be the most insincere thing they can do: they inherently support such acts&#8230; and you can find very easily what would happen if they assume the power: hypocrisy will be uncovered.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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