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		<title>By: Omid T (Iran/USA)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/14/back-entrance/#comment-478</link>
		<dc:creator>Omid T (Iran/USA)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 05:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Levylevthuglife,

You may want to compare your views with the efforts of the Baha&#039;i Faith.

http://bahai.org/dir/teachings/equality/equality_gender

Briefly...


&lt;blockquote&gt;Traditionally, religion has been one of the most powerful sources of both vision and values. Every religion, particularly in its early stages, has evoked a new vision for society, articulated values consonant with that vision, and inspired both personal and institutional transformation. At the same time, it must be acknowledged that religion has also been a source of division and social fragmentation. Indeed, the record of religions in promoting the advancement of women has been uneven. While, typically, in the early years of their existence, religions have tended to encourage the participation of women, historical evidence suggests a gradual tendency among religious institutions over time to establish practices and support attitudes that impede the development of women&#039;s potential.

Because religion is such a potentially powerful force for progress, religious leaders and people of faith everywhere are urged to step forward as lovers of humanity to promote those eternal, unifying principles -- or spiritual values -- that can inspire in both individuals and governments the will to implement the Agenda for Equality.

Foremost is the principle of the oneness of humankind. It lies at the heart of the exhortation that we should treat others as we ourselves would wish to be treated, an ethical standard upheld in some form by every religion. To establish justice, peace and order in an interdependent world, this principle must guide all interactions, including those between men and women. If the treatment of women were scrutinized in the light of this ethical standard, we would doubtless move beyond many traditional, religious and cultural practices.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Levylevthuglife,</p>
<p>You may want to compare your views with the efforts of the Baha&#8217;i Faith.</p>
<p><a href="http://bahai.org/dir/teachings/equality/equality_gender" rel="nofollow">http://bahai.org/dir/teachings/equality/equality_gender</a></p>
<p>Briefly&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Traditionally, religion has been one of the most powerful sources of both vision and values. Every religion, particularly in its early stages, has evoked a new vision for society, articulated values consonant with that vision, and inspired both personal and institutional transformation. At the same time, it must be acknowledged that religion has also been a source of division and social fragmentation. Indeed, the record of religions in promoting the advancement of women has been uneven. While, typically, in the early years of their existence, religions have tended to encourage the participation of women, historical evidence suggests a gradual tendency among religious institutions over time to establish practices and support attitudes that impede the development of women&#8217;s potential.</p>
<p>Because religion is such a potentially powerful force for progress, religious leaders and people of faith everywhere are urged to step forward as lovers of humanity to promote those eternal, unifying principles &#8212; or spiritual values &#8212; that can inspire in both individuals and governments the will to implement the Agenda for Equality.</p>
<p>Foremost is the principle of the oneness of humankind. It lies at the heart of the exhortation that we should treat others as we ourselves would wish to be treated, an ethical standard upheld in some form by every religion. To establish justice, peace and order in an interdependent world, this principle must guide all interactions, including those between men and women. If the treatment of women were scrutinized in the light of this ethical standard, we would doubtless move beyond many traditional, religious and cultural practices.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: levylevthuglife</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/14/back-entrance/#comment-477</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 04:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed.  I think that in recent times organized religion has had a negative role in terms of promoting gender equality, and I would like that to change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.  I think that in recent times organized religion has had a negative role in terms of promoting gender equality, and I would like that to change.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawoud (Bahrain/Japan)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/14/back-entrance/#comment-476</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawoud (Bahrain/Japan)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, all I can say is that these people are living a life of denial.  Denial for being human, and in a weird sense, it&#039;s like thy are trying to undo what was done over ten thousand or more years ago.  It&#039;s just not gonna happen.  A woman having her &quot;friend&quot; is just a natural thing.  Hell, even animals go through it.  These are the parts I don&#039;t agree with in religion.  I think this is where men have weighed in and made some sort of rule on it long ago and sort of made it a message from God.  Sorry, but that&#039;s my feelings on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, all I can say is that these people are living a life of denial.  Denial for being human, and in a weird sense, it&#8217;s like thy are trying to undo what was done over ten thousand or more years ago.  It&#8217;s just not gonna happen.  A woman having her &#8220;friend&#8221; is just a natural thing.  Hell, even animals go through it.  These are the parts I don&#8217;t agree with in religion.  I think this is where men have weighed in and made some sort of rule on it long ago and sort of made it a message from God.  Sorry, but that&#8217;s my feelings on it.</p>
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		<title>By: levylevthuglife</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/14/back-entrance/#comment-475</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the rules say that a man is allowed to touch only his wife (non-sexually) when she is not having her period.  When the woman is on her period, her husband is supposed to sleep in a separate bed to keep clean.  That&#039;s why when you go to an ultra orthodox home you will find 2 beds in the bedroom.  Sex is supposed to be done only for procreation, not for pleasure.  There are rumors that during intercourse the partners are separated through a sheet with a hole, though I do not know for sure since it&#039;s a taboo topic.  Men are not supposed to touch women other than their wives since they may have their period at that moment and the men will never know for sure, so to be safe they just don&#039;t touch.  And yes this lifestyle is a psycological disorder.

I am not exactly sure since I am not ultra orthodox and have only had limited contact with them since they are communities are quite isolated.  Chabad, one of the main ultra orthodox organizations, has homes scattered throughout the world in which Jews are welcomed at any time.  Their homes tend to fill up during the holidays by travellers or other people away from their families.  I visited them when I was alone living in Denmark and Sweden.

I should also state that in reform and conservative communities and even most orthodox communities (as opposed to ultra orthodox) these rules are not followed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the rules say that a man is allowed to touch only his wife (non-sexually) when she is not having her period.  When the woman is on her period, her husband is supposed to sleep in a separate bed to keep clean.  That&#8217;s why when you go to an ultra orthodox home you will find 2 beds in the bedroom.  Sex is supposed to be done only for procreation, not for pleasure.  There are rumors that during intercourse the partners are separated through a sheet with a hole, though I do not know for sure since it&#8217;s a taboo topic.  Men are not supposed to touch women other than their wives since they may have their period at that moment and the men will never know for sure, so to be safe they just don&#8217;t touch.  And yes this lifestyle is a psycological disorder.</p>
<p>I am not exactly sure since I am not ultra orthodox and have only had limited contact with them since they are communities are quite isolated.  Chabad, one of the main ultra orthodox organizations, has homes scattered throughout the world in which Jews are welcomed at any time.  Their homes tend to fill up during the holidays by travellers or other people away from their families.  I visited them when I was alone living in Denmark and Sweden.</p>
<p>I should also state that in reform and conservative communities and even most orthodox communities (as opposed to ultra orthodox) these rules are not followed.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawoud (Bahrain/Japan)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawoud (Bahrain/Japan)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Jewish extremist won&#039;t touch the opposite sex, then how do they procreate or do they have some sort of &quot;special exemption&quot; status they file for or do they take a vow of celibacy or do they have the market covered on sperm donor banks and in vitro fertilization?  I can tell you that any man who is going to boldface lie that they have harnessed the sexual energy and transferred it to something else non-sexual or that they do not think of it or desire the feelings associated with it would be the first I&#039;d put a bullet in (a verbal bullet).  To deny being human is ridiculous.  It would be a medical/psychological disorder (there are people who are in this situation, so I&#039;m not poking fun), if anything.  I guess that pent up sexual energy amounts to extremist thinking and acts of flagellation.  Damn, I am really going into the abyss with this mindset now, but at least I will mention it.  Don&#039;t be ashamed, just don&#039;t associate yourself with that disordered mind.  Allah will judge us for our own works in the end, and I think a confession of &quot;I did not have sexual relations with a woman and I made sure to keep them down in your name.&quot; will amount to a one way ticket to hell or at least a very heavy penalty because Allah did not say to keep women down or to treat them as something lower.  I bet if a man was allowed to carry a child full term, they would have an appreciation of what it is like to bear the burden of this world and what their mother went through to bring them into this world and the follow-on attention and care that was given and needed by the baby.  Again, not kissing butt, but women have my total respect, even if some don&#039;t like men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Jewish extremist won&#8217;t touch the opposite sex, then how do they procreate or do they have some sort of &#8220;special exemption&#8221; status they file for or do they take a vow of celibacy or do they have the market covered on sperm donor banks and in vitro fertilization?  I can tell you that any man who is going to boldface lie that they have harnessed the sexual energy and transferred it to something else non-sexual or that they do not think of it or desire the feelings associated with it would be the first I&#8217;d put a bullet in (a verbal bullet).  To deny being human is ridiculous.  It would be a medical/psychological disorder (there are people who are in this situation, so I&#8217;m not poking fun), if anything.  I guess that pent up sexual energy amounts to extremist thinking and acts of flagellation.  Damn, I am really going into the abyss with this mindset now, but at least I will mention it.  Don&#8217;t be ashamed, just don&#8217;t associate yourself with that disordered mind.  Allah will judge us for our own works in the end, and I think a confession of &#8220;I did not have sexual relations with a woman and I made sure to keep them down in your name.&#8221; will amount to a one way ticket to hell or at least a very heavy penalty because Allah did not say to keep women down or to treat them as something lower.  I bet if a man was allowed to carry a child full term, they would have an appreciation of what it is like to bear the burden of this world and what their mother went through to bring them into this world and the follow-on attention and care that was given and needed by the baby.  Again, not kissing butt, but women have my total respect, even if some don&#8217;t like men.</p>
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		<title>By: levylevthuglife</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to add that unfortunately sexism is still rampant in some Jewish religious communities, particularly in the ultra-orthodox ones.  I think all this stems from how sex is still treated as a very taboo subject.  There are even some crazy extremists who won&#039;t touch the opposite sex!  Makes me ashamed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to add that unfortunately sexism is still rampant in some Jewish religious communities, particularly in the ultra-orthodox ones.  I think all this stems from how sex is still treated as a very taboo subject.  There are even some crazy extremists who won&#8217;t touch the opposite sex!  Makes me ashamed.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawoud (Bahrain/Japan)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawoud (Bahrain/Japan)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s definitely gonna take time to reverse a course that has persisted for centuries, but I definitely believe that it starts at home with the kids.

That sounds kinda extreme (Womans Land; Womyns Land; I know some women who refuse to even have &quot;man&quot; or &quot;men&quot; in their vocabulary), like a gated community in the USA.  Those places really suck!

Isn&#039;t there one of those types of places in Abu Dhabi?  A women&#039;s mall?  I heard of this a few years ago.  I think that the main reason for such a place is to allow women to be able to shop and do their thing without the presence of men.  I can appreciate such a place as a kind of &quot;sanctuary&quot; away from gawking men or a male family member shadow, as well as a place where ME women who wear the shayla and abaya can take it off in a total women&#039;s world and browse, relax and not worry about the world outside the mall. I also heard that men aren&#039;t even allowed near the parking entrances to this mall.

Rasha, yeah the music video industry does promote women as sexual objects, and I think that it is centered around a few sets of music genre, and this is just my opinion, but it seems like the women groups really push it further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s definitely gonna take time to reverse a course that has persisted for centuries, but I definitely believe that it starts at home with the kids.</p>
<p>That sounds kinda extreme (Womans Land; Womyns Land; I know some women who refuse to even have &#8220;man&#8221; or &#8220;men&#8221; in their vocabulary), like a gated community in the USA.  Those places really suck!</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t there one of those types of places in Abu Dhabi?  A women&#8217;s mall?  I heard of this a few years ago.  I think that the main reason for such a place is to allow women to be able to shop and do their thing without the presence of men.  I can appreciate such a place as a kind of &#8220;sanctuary&#8221; away from gawking men or a male family member shadow, as well as a place where ME women who wear the shayla and abaya can take it off in a total women&#8217;s world and browse, relax and not worry about the world outside the mall. I also heard that men aren&#8217;t even allowed near the parking entrances to this mall.</p>
<p>Rasha, yeah the music video industry does promote women as sexual objects, and I think that it is centered around a few sets of music genre, and this is just my opinion, but it seems like the women groups really push it further.</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices بالعربية &#187; الأرشيف &#187; السعودية: البوابة الخلفية للنساء</title>
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		<dc:creator>Global Voices بالعربية &#187; الأرشيف &#187; السعودية: البوابة الخلفية للنساء</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] انتباهنا المدونة السعودية [إنكليزي] رشا إلي الفارق الكبير في المعاملة بين الرجل والمر أه في [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tamara (Syria &#38; UAE)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/14/back-entrance/#comment-470</link>
		<dc:creator>Tamara (Syria &#38; UAE)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is so nice to see such positive comments from the men so far. It pleases me greatly, and gives me faith that we will and we can get out of this backward thinking.

But I would also like to add that there are Women who disrespect and exclude men. There is a place, just near where I live in Wales, called &#039;Womans Land&#039; that only allows women to live there. Any male above the age of 4years is not allowed in, and any women who has a male child above that age either has to leave or is seperated from the child. This kind of thing is extremely distressing to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is so nice to see such positive comments from the men so far. It pleases me greatly, and gives me faith that we will and we can get out of this backward thinking.</p>
<p>But I would also like to add that there are Women who disrespect and exclude men. There is a place, just near where I live in Wales, called &#8216;Womans Land&#8217; that only allows women to live there. Any male above the age of 4years is not allowed in, and any women who has a male child above that age either has to leave or is seperated from the child. This kind of thing is extremely distressing to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Rasha (Saudi Arabia)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/10/14/back-entrance/#comment-469</link>
		<dc:creator>Rasha (Saudi Arabia)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to add one thing positive that was mentioned by Tamara which is women are sometimes given priority in a queue or line. It happened to me a few times. Cashiers or salesmen are the ones taking such steps not usually men standing in line.

This usually happens because it looks weird for a woman to be standing among men. Many women would feel uncomfortable too. I have been in such situation where I needed to stand in line and I was the only female standing among men. Some men stared at me and it was uncomfortable. The worker felt sorry for me and actually helped me finish so I can leave.

 Our society has a long way to go.. segregation creates sick minds  most of the time. There is a LARGE gap between men and women, both genders are perceived differently either by society or the opposite sex.

I would think this problem of how society perceives women is evident in many cultures. Women are still looked at as sexual objects. It is evident in the music industry.. media..etc.
Women are still being exploited everyday in front of our eyes, we are just too used to it to actually recognize it..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to add one thing positive that was mentioned by Tamara which is women are sometimes given priority in a queue or line. It happened to me a few times. Cashiers or salesmen are the ones taking such steps not usually men standing in line.</p>
<p>This usually happens because it looks weird for a woman to be standing among men. Many women would feel uncomfortable too. I have been in such situation where I needed to stand in line and I was the only female standing among men. Some men stared at me and it was uncomfortable. The worker felt sorry for me and actually helped me finish so I can leave.</p>
<p> Our society has a long way to go.. segregation creates sick minds  most of the time. There is a LARGE gap between men and women, both genders are perceived differently either by society or the opposite sex.</p>
<p>I would think this problem of how society perceives women is evident in many cultures. Women are still looked at as sexual objects. It is evident in the music industry.. media..etc.<br />
Women are still being exploited everyday in front of our eyes, we are just too used to it to actually recognize it..</p>
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