Most Arabic Yahoo groups are about sex
November 9th, 2007The following graph is provided by Internet Strategist:
I’m not sure how reliable this is, so I looked a bit further. About a year go, it appears that Cairo was the #1 city that searched for “sex” on Google. Sabbah provides a few graphs detailing who’s searching for sex on the internet. Here is who searched for sex by region:
Arabic is the 2nd most common language that is used to search for “gay sex.” It’s the number one language for search involving “sexy.” As you can see in that same graph, Iran is at 3 and Egypt is at 4, listed under regions where search on “sexy” was most conducted.
Arabic is the 2nd most common language that is used to search for “gay man.” The countries that most search for this is currently Malaysia (#1) and Indonesia (#2). For “gay girl,” Arabic is also the 2nd most common language.
For “child porn,” Turkey is the 2nd country where this is most searched. Turkish is the #1 language used.
Turkey has one of the most searches for the word “porno.” Morocco is at 5. Turkish is #1 language used to conduct the search in. Indonesia is currently #1 country that search for the word “vagina.”
Turkey is not an Arab country, nor are some of the other countries I listed. But they are Muslim, so I thought the findings were fascinating to say the least. All of this information is not in the least bit shocking, but it’s quite ironic.
What do you guys think?
Update:
Egypt is currently #1 for “fat sex.”
Pakistan, Morocco, Turkey and Egypt are at the top of the list when it comes to “animal sex.”
For “children sex,” Pakistan is at #1, Egypt #2 and Iran #3. The most common languages used to conduct the search in are Arabic and Turkish.
For “sexy children,” these results are probably the most disturbing. Pakistan, Syria, Iran, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, followed by Turkey at #9.
For “sexy child,” Pakistan is #1, followed by Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Turkey. Common languages are Persian, Arabic, and Turkish.
For “homo sex,” Indonesia is #1, Morocco is at 6.
For “rape,” Pakistan is at 1. Malaysia is at 3.
For “bird sex,” Egypt is at 1. (Come ON!)
For “ass sex,” Saudi Arabia comes first, followed directly by Egypt and Morocco. Most common language is Arabic.
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That doesn’t surprise me in the slightest.. These are some of the countries that are the most stringent when it comes to sexual freedoms. Cairo is a precarious mix of scantly clad foreigners or women covered from head to toe.. Its no wonder, coupled with that heat, that they look to Google for answers!
Also, no reason to believe that there aren’t as many gay people living in Pakistan for example, as anywhere else. The oppressive elements of a culture leads people to search for some kind of release (no pun intended), and seems they find it through the internet.
Because of this sex-related entry, our traffic doubled in the last hour. Go figure.
We should do this more often, guys.
Well, it would seem to be an effective way of bringing Muslims to the forum, but I somehow doubt that anyone arriving here by one of these searches are going to stick around to engage in conversation.
I hear 70% of all internet bandwidth is used to transfer porn.
If we just dedicate one day of the week where we all pose naked, we can increase the site’s traffic by 200%
Quite a reliable strategy if you ask me.
Quite awhile back, my blogmate, Myrtus, wrote a post about Arab hotties. Ever since then, we’ve gotten a ton of traffic from Middle Easterners and people who come from other predominantly Islamic countries who search Google for hot Arab women.
Here is how we can solve the Middle East problem: 1) Tons of good food and beer available at all times; 2) BJs on demand by hot looking women (or guys); and 3) Sony Playstation of XBox stocked with World of Warcraft and the Halo trilogy. Trust me, these three things will result in 0% motivation to go out and fight. Food/beverage, sex, and blinking things with buttons and levers. Just what any man needs to stay happy.
OK, where’s my peace prize for spreading awareness like Al Gore did?
Why do we bother relying on donations then?
Let’s convert this site to the SexTube of Arabia and get the party started! We already got tons of hits from people looking for “sexy Arab,” where another entry I wrote here comes up second.
Sigh. If we got the relevant traffic, we could really make a difference. We’re stuck with sex freaks for now.
So who will win the jihadists or the natural curiosity and feelings of people in the war of hearts and minds.Ironically or maybe not Arabs seem to be logically inclined as they always talk about the Koran as a consistent book and many jihadists work in the computer field.Of course some day if they think about it they will realize that religion has many of the attributes of a virus what with it’s ability to take over a person just as a computer virus takes over a computer.When that happens there will be a groundswell as this epiphany sweeps the muslim world.All discussion of religion as sacred will disappear as it is revealed as a thousand year old meme. justoneangel.blogspot.com
1st point: everytime you use a word like ’sex’, ‘gay’, ‘homosexual’ and ‘fashion’ in the title of your post, I have to use antifilter, since Iran’s Intelligent Blocking System blocks that page.
2nd point: you are true that most of the bandwith is used for porn. a reason might be that high-resolution pics as well as videos are more exciting when it comes to be a porno-material, but in other areas (politics, etc) just texts seem to be enough to satisfy the reader. then, the bandwith used for each does not translate into the amount of time people use for each category. also you may consider the fact that people usually try to do a search to get more versatile porn materials, but for example in the case of politics we usually use some certain resources
3rd point: doing a survey on 109 yahoo groups is as nonsense as asking 109 americans of their favorite candidate.
4th point: I also do admit that Muslim countries should be expected to rank first in the list, and others go to the end of the list… where the porn is readily available in streets, you dont need to spend much time in cyber world… isnt it so?
Yahoo groups are a haven for porn and spam nowadays, so it doesn’t surprise me that many of them are sexually oriented. It’s not something unique to Arabs, the other findings are much more interesting however… and I think it says a thing or two about our societies.
If sex isn’t taboo, I wonder how many people would openly talk about it here.
A lot of those went out of business when the internet caught on. They cant compete with the price of digital transfers and anonymity of internet purchases (or piracy). The three dimensional variety is still in business, though not as common as you might think.
You should check bulk number of searches against population, or the size of the computer market in the given country, I suspect people here are just using the internet more for things other than porn, thus watering out those google stats which count by share of searches. Age distribution and wealth might also be a factor, I suspect we in the west have a lot more savvy internet users in their 40s and 50s than the aforementioned countries. (old people from those countries could perhaps not afford computers growing up)
Competition from brick and mortar stores is at least negligible, believe me.
Esra’a
What would the relevant traffic be searching for? Which links would the relevant traffic follow?
What is the relevant traffic?
I’ve toyed with the idea of setting up a “moderate muslim pinglist” on FreeRepublic to bring attention to the work (or even just existence) of these allegedly mythical beings, but aside from the fact that I wouldn’t know where to find the relevant stories/events, I’m not sure I’d want to expose them to the armies of Robert Spencer wannabes that would descent on said moderates. And the point of this forum at least is to have middle easterners be well represented on it, You won’t find many of those on FreeRepublic unless you count soldiers posting from Iraq.
So that would be a bad idea, what would be a good one?
The armies of Robert Spencer wannabes are linking to this site from all over the web, twisting everything as usual and making idiotic claims about our Muslim “death cult.” I never intended for this entry to be used or interpreted in this hateful manner.
Relevant traffic: People who are searching for the topics that are usually discussed here and who are genuinely interested in debating them - anything from our culture to human rights.
Hmm. Something we should ponder!
I agree with PeacefulVanguard..
LMAO, the avatar of that second poster is cramping the first guy’s style something fierce.
I heard that porn is what spurns the IT industry. Porn is what really got the VHS thing to be a viable industry back in the day of Beta or VHS, and my first statement was from a conversation I had with a friend in the IT industry. I don’t know if there’s much truth to it, but I am sure if someone wants porn or interactive gratification in a more real time situation and there’s a demand for such things, the industry will provide.
from wikipedia, about webcams:
“As with many new technologies, webcams and webcam chat found early commercial adoption and aggressive technology advancement through use by the pornography industry. The adult industry required ‘live’ images and requested a Dutch developer to write a piece of software that could do this without requiring web browser plugins. This led to the birth of the ‘live streaming webcam’, which is still available in various forms today.”
Hah, is that why the woman and sex in Saudi Arabia thread still gets random comments like 9 months later? That’s funny.
Also yeah, the internet is definitely the last vestige for ignorance, I just try to ignore that kind of stuff for my sanity.
We get e-mails about that one.
“hi do u hav pix for dis also do u hav bf, plz im nice”
Nadia, so are you saying then that sex and porn turn us insane?
I don’t think she meant that literally. Right?
hehehe.. I was only kidding… I just think some people take pornography a little too seriously sometimes.
Tor,
Spender replied to your comment via a post on JihadWatch.org
To reply to Spencer:
Because they referred to us as a “DEATH CULT.” Yes this is offensive, yes this is hateful. How is this not clear to you and your avid supporters?
Don’t worry, they’re just in denial.
Reply to Robert Spencer:
I am an atheist with no religious background, living in Norway. I harbor no illusions about the history of any religion. My chief point of disagreement with you is that where you demand that any reinterpretation of Islam has to make sense in the light of Orthodox Islamic tradition, I view religion chiefly as an exercise in nonsense and will happily settle for any concoction that respects my rights.
If a Muslim were to argue that any surah coming out of Medina was a historical one off, somehow magically justified just that once, and with no implications for contemporary morality, you would challenge that argument based on Islamic orthodoxy. I would consider it a promising development, and I would hope that it would catch on so that Muslims at some point in the future might engage in such mental contortions as universally as contemporary Christians and Jews do when faced with the atrocities of the old testament. Religions change, even “literally interpreted” scripture based ones, and consistency, both internal and historical, is optional.
The people I referred to as wannabe you’s are people who wish they could make the arguments you do in regards to Islam, though they usually settle fore a couple of quotes. Typically they are too busy trying to convince everyone that the terrorists have more Muslim credentials than our allies, sometimes even calling for an outright declaration of war on Islam, to recognize that on the actual points of contention in this conflict we have allies who self identify as Muslims, and who will back their words with action. They are too attached to this notion of one true interpretation of a text to which they ascribe no truth regardless, to realize that they are, in trying to cast this war as a war against Islam, aiding the enemy’s efforts in driving a wedge between us and large number of crucial allies.
I do not intend to imply that you share all the quirks of these people, I wouldn’t know. I called them wannabe Robert Spencers because they, almost to a person, idolize you for your ability and persistence in debating the particulars of a religion to which neither you nor they adhere. I never understood this fascination with “the one true heresy”, and I fear I never will.
Wow, great achievement.
You got a link from the great JihadWatch. Be proud boys and girls.
“Nadia, so are you saying then that sex and porn turn us insane?”
oh sorry guys i was referring to those racist message boards that esra’a linked to, not the original thread topic. i need to be more clear when i post. but if all i did was look at porn all day that would probably also make me a little unbalanced
Great traffic, but I think it’s something NOT to be proud of! That site is against every value I personally stand for.
Esra’a
What a surprising statement.
Any further links to Spencer have and will be removed. If anyone has something to say; this thread has a comment feature for a reason. Use it. Don’t spam us and play Chinese telephone where everyone answers in 10 locations and expects us to give a shit to spend that much time running around looking for them.
I updated the entry with more disturbing findings.
This is so stupid; what’s the point of it?
1. Turkey is not Arab, neither is Indonesia.
2. Arabic is the second most language used to search for “gay sex,” but somehow they didn’t mention that English is number 1 on that list.
3. The search terms the article bases its results on are typical of someone who doesn’t speak English well, and thus wouldn’t know how to search for porn. I mean com’on, who uses “vagina” when looking for porn?
On another note, it’s hilarious to actually sit down and see where different types of porn searches are most abundant. Where are you guys anyway?
Neither are Malaysia and Pakistan. But this observation of yours has already been refuted if you actually made an effort to read the article. Because this is what I said:
“Turkey is not an Arab country, nor are some of the other countries I listed. But they are Muslim, so I thought the findings were fascinating to say the least.”
Please read people’s articles in full before commenting with “clever corrections,” thanks a lot.
In our tents drooling over internet secks. I bet we’re first for “fist porn.”
Perhaps those handy things in parenthesis next to everybody’s names here can give you an idea of where everybody’s from. Hint: they’re countries.
I was being sarcastic to a certain extent.
Ugh! That is disturbing. I have no objection to “fat sex” or “homo sex,” but rape, children and animals?
What about the internet filtering I thought they had in several of those countries?
English is the prominent language on the net… so you would expect it to be the top one… but Arabic? Chinese is second followed by Spanish, Japanese, French, German… but Arabic? Ya that’s the point. Arabic speakers account for 2.5% of the traffic on the web. Compared with 31% for English speakers.
http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats7.htm
Well said Jina. It seems that Barta was just trying extra hard to be captain obvious.
You can still conduct these searches. The filters are on the actual websites, not on search results, and since many of the porn sites don’t have “porn” or “sex” in the link not all filters can easily detect them.
Very clever Esra’a. To be honest I only mentioned those two countries because after finishing the article they were the first two that caught my eye.
I would have nothing against this had it been accurate, but it wasn’t (as i mentioned in my third observation), the results are very misleading. Arabs get enough flack as it is, why would you go and add to that. That’s the only point. Thank god your article sunk on reddit.
I don’t deny that there’s plenty of porn surfing in Arab countries, but com’on who searches for “fat sex” or “sexy child” if they spoke English well enough.
Thanks, I’m flattered.
The article is statistical and is based on Google’s search services. If you think it’s inaccurate, go complain to Google, Inc. Not me.
I care. Seriously.
Listen to yourself. Are you listening? This is the sound of you not making any sense. There is nothing incorrect about the English phrase “sexy child.” In fact, you made me search for “sexy children.” Guess what? 6 OF THE 10 RESULTS ARE MUSLIM COUNTRIES.
This is what people were looking for and what they were expecting to see when they typed these words into Google; don’t deny it.
If you type words like “child porn,” you will still get Turkey on the top of the list. Pakistan and Egypt look for things like “pig sex.” Correct English. Same results.
They know enough English to realize what this means. They weren’t searching for Barney and ended up typing the wrong keywords by accident. You can deny it all you want if it makes you feel any better, but this is reality. It is quite frankly ridiculous and paranoid to claim that my intention is to spread hatred against Arabs or Muslims when I am both of these things. I published it because I think it’s wrong and hypocritical and deserves to be addressed; not ignored and justified. These things have the potential to harm our societies, like it or not, and I won’t stand for it.
I am translating this post to Persian in my Persian blog: Kamangir.
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I never said that.
It does need to be addressed. I stand by my statement that the terms you used were stupid. Someone with a bit more knowledge looking for “fat” porn would actually search for “bbw“, a list which doesn’t have a single arab/muslim city/country. It’s as simple as knowing how to search, and Arabs are a bit behind in terms of effective porn searching abilities. It’s all a matter of what search terms you use. Again for “animal sex”, the effective way of finding it is searching for “besatiality“. No mention of Arabs. Coming to think about it, I think I’d make a lot of money teaching people in the Middle East how to effectively search for porn.
Do you see my point or not yet? I simply said your results were inaccurate because of the search criteria you chose. Trust me, Arabs are not more obsessed with porn than other people. Hmmm.. interestingly, the arbitrary “knee sex” has interesting results. And I can summarize the results for you, WOW OMG OMG, The turks are number 7 on the list, they MUST be obsessed rubbing themselves against knees..
[...] fact, it looks like they surf porn more than anyone else. I’ve highlighted some of their favorite internet, er, hobbies: Arabic is the 2nd most common [...]
Look on the bright side. At least we don’t surf for “shoe sex” which is apparently a common search in the UK.
shoofti ya 7maara, uncalled for bad publicity. Arabs/muslims don’t search for porn more than others. The terms you used were arbitrary, and show ineffective porn searching habits. Anyone who knows a little bit about porn would actually search for “beastiality” (where are the Arabs on google trends for that) instead of searching for “pig sex.” And would search for “bbw” as opposed to “fat sex.” Of course your accurate results took all those things into account. right? I can probably give them lessons on effective porn searching and make a lot of money.
That said. Arabs are just as horny as everyone else. It is possible that they channel their sexuality through the internet because there isn’t anywhere else to do so. My point is your article is more humorous than anything else, and the only thing it shows is that Arabs suck at finding porn.
Everyone please relax. Except for the child stuff, it’s just sex. People are looking to make love not war, right? So I don’t see what’s the big deal. And as far as the animal stuff … pig sex and bird sex, come on you guys, sounds like kids exploring and checking things out online. I mean, think about who is using the internet in most of these countries … it’s youth and young adults for the most part. Personally, I don’t take these trends seriously because we do not know what they really reveal about the people or societies that are doing them since there are so many other variables at play. Anyway, what’s even weirder to me than these trends is that so many people from thousands of miles away care about, and get titilated over, what makes other people horny. If we could run a trend on “obsessive/compulsive disorder about what makes people-they-don’t-know hot in their pants,” what do you think we’d get? I dunno, but I’d like to see a cross search on that with religious fundamentalism and impotence … you know, just for curiosity’s sake.
Bartaa, or shall I say thar6a, to me you seem like nothing more than a geek who is afraid of factual information for the sake of “publicity.”
10 dinars say you’re #1 for “7maara sex.”
LOL!
Stupid reply. I’m not afraid of factual, “truthful” information. If the “facts” you’re providing are not true, then it’s only slander. I made my point, go back and read it and try to come up with a reply if you think i’m wrong.
I wouldn’t touch your nasty ass if you were the last person left on earth.
You keep saying “I made my point.” It is emotional, it is not accurate. “It’s bad for publicity” is not really a real refutation. You have yet to verify that this information is factually incorrect. These are sex terminologies and their results. Nothing more, nothing less. If you have an issue with how the search is being conducted, Google has a 1-800 number which you can call.
AW DAMN!
It’s funny how you haven’t replied to that yet.
tab honestly now, in good spirit and all. What’s the point of this article? Maybe I misread the intention of your article.
Gay sex, homo sex, child sex, hot Arab women.
I just increased the number of hits your site will get once the Google bots get around to your site.
It’s amazing how a simple conversation about a legitimate subject can influence the web and the search engines.
I don’t even know what that is, nor am I interested to know. The fact of the story remains that these are simple terms that are widely known to anybody who is even slightly familiar with the English language. Are you implying that the people within the 6 countries listed under “sexy children” are conducting the search to find something “educational” about sexy children? Or would you admit that it’s child porn? Just the fact that they are actively looking for such type of porn is disturbing. I see no harm in pointing it out, if this is in fact reality.
Secondly, the argument that you are using doesn’t apply (that they don’t know enough English), especially because the UK, Australia, and Canada are all on that same list. How do you explain that? Do they also have limited English skills?
There is a trend that I wanted people to focus on - and if it wasn’t for Robert Spencer’s armies interrupting the debate with their nonsense a lot of people would have actually gotten the point of this information.
It wasn’t so that you or anybody else can think “ARABZ SUCK.” Sex in the nations I listed is a taboo topic. No one even has PDA in public out of fear. Homosexuality is severely punished and outlawed. These sheltered societies is what makes people curious (and sometimes obsessed) with such porn. I see it as a direct result of the lack of sex education in the Arab and Muslim world and the consistent fear enforced upon us when we even talk about these controversial issues.
When it comes to pride, I am a proud Arab. I don’t agree with or justify how this article is being interpreted. Each to their own. But I’m not going to let these types of reactions silence me from what I wish to publish, whether or not it gives us “bad publicity” is not my concern. If it was my concern, then you would often see censorship here. If you were really proud of who you are you would take responsibility and criticize yourself every once in a while. It’s one of the main things to do if we want to prevent bad things from happening.
I will also not fear from stating that sexual trafficking is a booming business across the Gulf. Just because it shames me doesn’t mean I have to hide it. This is an internal and increasing problem which I think deserves a lot of attention, yet due to “reputation,” people refuse to talk about it in the media, politicians refuse to address it, and governments try to deny that it happens. This is corrupt. I think it’s incredibly destructive to have this mentality (that the only news worth sharing is good news that makes you feel important of your nationality.) It’s not how it works. I stand up for my country all the time, it’s my duty to do so if it’s being attacked especially in a racist way. But I will not hide or deny its mistakes. Instead I try to fix them, or at least make others aware so they too can think of ways to make our country a better place to live in.
When we see that something is wrong in our societies we should point it out. Not shove it under the bed because some assholes are gonna be like “HAY MUSLIMS ARE GAY.” So what? Do you really care about what people think of you? We have a responsibility to build our nation. A civil society. Shushing people up because you disagree is not going to change anything for the better. If you were confident and proud of who you are then you would stand up for what’s right and wrong and do something about it.
I totally agree with your cause honestly, I just disagreed with your method (in this specific article). Censorship is definitely wrong, and there is plenty that is wrong with our societies, I just didn’t think your results were relevant in this specific case, simply because I (among many others) misunderstood your intent. Arabs are far from perfect, and you’re definitely doing something by speaking up.
p.s. bbw is “big beautiful women.” Somehow you pick up these words by simply living in the west.
They show their true colours…
Who the fuck is they?
Us brown ones! All 3 billion of us.
I just wanna say, I love Lebanese girls personally.
And do brown people include most Greeks? hahaha
Several issues must be noted.
1. Bringing to light these abominations and making statistics out of it. First off it’s bound to happen - if not by Muslims then by non-Muslims. I hope at least that the intention is not to embarrass or “expose” groups of people, but to also offer solutions. Some complain that it is not right to publish such things, and they are correct to a certain extent. The Prophet (s) did not want to hear the bad things people were doing and individuals are highly discouraged from making their private affairs public, but at the same time these findings are general enough to not damage any one person’s image.
2. Such findings are a blatant and evident proof that Muslims are not doing what they are supposed to. That can be attributed to lack of knowledge, or lack of application of knowledge. If people’s faiths were strong in Allah (swt) then they would fear Him. Evidently, as a collective group, we do not and we do not heed the warnings of our scholars and we imitate the promiscuous western nations in the way we dress, talk and appear on TV (Lebanon and Egypt). For God’s sake, Lebanon is the no.1 plastic surgery capital of the world.
3. The issue on sexual freedom in Islam. Sex should never be a taboo subject in Islam and amongst Muslims. Of course we should not reveal what we do with our respective spouses and should only talk with about sex to educate and inform people. The Arabic word for bed or sireer is related to the Arabic word for secret, or “sirr”. Unfortunately, some people think sexual freedom is the solution. These people are primitive and ignorant. Treating a problem with another problem will never solve anything, it’ll only delay the inevitable - whatever that may be. Already in the west we see what this so called “sexual freedom” has produced: STD’s, rape/inconsual sex, unwanted pregnancies and abortion, broken families, homosexuality and unusual fetishes, lack of committed relationships, so on and so forth.
The bottom line is, these published findings should really be a wake up call for Muslims in Muslim lands. Our governments are messed up and people are quick to blame them, but if you are jobless and broke but want to get married, place your trust in Allah (swt). Marriage is the opposite of promiscuity, it is what keeps communities and whole nations chaste and it is the solution. If you cannot get married, remain patient and steadfast and practice those things, which the Prophet (s) prescribed for us, Insha’Allah.
Did you know bulbul in Hebrew means penis? Does it mean the same in Arabic? And was this name intented for this thread or just a funny coincidence?
Very interesting, if not at all surprising. Esra’a observation that traffic dramatically increased with this topic and his suggestion that the staff all pose for nude pics to further increase traffic prompts a suggestion. Do not ask a question to which you do not want an answer…. (”here, I’m all naked, like it?”) hahahaha :-0
I’m a “her,” by the way.
actually, bulbul is not an uncommon nickname in Egypt and it could also refer to a kind of bird in English and Arabic. I didn’t know it means that in Hebrew. So, yeah, coincidence, I guess…heh
btw, bulbul also means that small bird in Hebrew. I am not sure how the word got associated with the penis. I guess that’s a question for cunning linguists
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Languages tend to “naturally” do that. Another example: “cock” in English is associated with penis. But it’s also the name for a male bird or a rooster.
“Your cock is a bit loud.”
“I beg your pardon, madam!”
“Don’t be nasty. I was being literal.”
this is pathetic
and it just proves tht we seriouslly need those web-filter..
n even though we have it… KSA is still high
imagine w/out
and the fact tht its totally free, with the somtimes NO traces can lead to the aformentioned ‘increase’ in the traffic to those site
n lets no forget the often mis-spelled words n phrases tht ppl use
lol n I thnk bcuz of this post… ur site will be famous
BTW I found it on some blog AND on 2 Facebook groups..
so expect more traffic;)
Don’t know how valid or accurate this is, however, similar results would not surprise me in the slightest. Sexual repression is anti-human do matter who’s dumbass religion it is calling the shots. When religions mandate that you must do this and that and must not do this and that, you are asking for a society of liars. On the surface, everyone will make you think he agrees with and adheres to the dimwitted rules and dogmas. However, when out of view, its a different story.
The rulers, meanwhile, the ones with the loot, absolutely love making frequent trips to the Western world to get their hands on as much sex as they possibly can. Show me the repression and I’ll show you the most devious sexual depravity.
To be fair, you’d get the same kind of results among ultra Christians and Jews. Repression equals perversion. End of story.
Stop throwing ugly bags over women’s heads. That’s precisely what keeps muslims in the dark ages.
Sometimes having multiple wives is not enough.
I’m in total agreement here.
This is another clip exploring this situation/taboo:
Why some Saudi girls strip on camera for free, and why young crowds watch it.
Very true.
Thank you for the link, Esra’a. It looks to me as though LDR did a good job on the story.
and from where this sexual sites come?hahahahahahaaaaaaa
i guess this sexual sites com from islamic and arabic countries too?hahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
realy,sick zinonists ,those who establish this dirty site
FYI: Zionism is a political movement, not a sexual one. I don’t see the relevance?
Also, a lot of these search results feature Asian websites. Where do the Zionists come in?
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Esra’a,u better should know who use this altred percent in this page for this site http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
see the right side in this link which i posted ,to see how they use this page here to alter muslims and arabians deads………..
That website is uninformed and their mission is disgusting. But it does not mean that the findings on this entry are somehow associated with Zionism. The goal of websites like that is to find the worst stories about our region and post them so that they mislead their readers into thinking that our religion or societies are primarily of this nature, when in fact it couldn’t be further from the truth.
You shouldn’t help them increase traffic by posting their websites. Just ignore them; they are in their own close-minded worlds, obviously unwilling to debate with and listen to the sane voices of the region. We have more confidence and self-respect than to get riled up about some silly website aimed to discredit our faith.
Esra’a,when i came to this page here i was think thats the page follow the link of those zionists which i refered too………
so,i was think that all this page was fabricated one
but u should know that they use the percents in this site ,i dont know how thet get it…..
so i dont know this site here or this page,i dont know u ,who r u,and who r those who put commnents…….
and whats going on here?
It’s kind of funny that a lot of websites are writing and linking to this article in an attempt to put Arabs and Muslims in a bad light; yet they don’t see the irony of people being attracted to the title because it has “sex” in it, or have slightly pornographic icons to associate with the article.
Like this one for example:
http://www.nrg.co.il/online/36/ART1/664/413.html
The article linked above sent us over 200 unique visitors last night alone, and almost 100 today so far. I wonder why they’re so interested? Was anyone expecting to see nude Arabs here?
Esra’a ,i dont know whose the one or which part establish this site here,but for sure u know that alot of Jews Isralians come and share in the conversations here-this site-,i have noted that later ,so if u compare between the sites which care for this article,u will know whose the one who anounce the news about this article to all other sites……search about the Jews
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Most Arabs are in selfdenial of what goes on in their countries, there are things they will never manage to enforce, and a porn ban is one of those things, no matter how hard they try.
At their base level human beings are sexually motivated and curious animals. The internet is more available to younger people, who are at the prime of their sexual interest. When real information and open discussion of anything is hidden or taboo, then that naturally becomes an item of curiosity. Although I do not respect Islam as a valid philosophy, I do think it is wrong to make the implied link that Muslims are dirtier minded than anyone else. 50 years ago discussion of sex was taboo, and the thing on every 14 year old boys mind was dirty talk of some sort. If it had been possible to make this survey then, I bet that there would have been a direct correspondence between the search terms specified and the topics that came out of the mouths of my school mates.
It still is for us.
TO EDWIN……………..so,why u dont respect islam as a valid philosophy Edwin,and why islam is not apear as a valid philosophy for you?so….,what is the valid philosophy for you?
It still is for us.
I have spent a lifetime of thought and inquiry and am a monodeist. Islam contains certain “pillars”, which are not requirements of my philosophical outlook.
so,may u be generous ,and tell us Edwin …what is the certain pillars which are not requirments of you philosophical outlook,and may u determin to us ur philosophical outlook exactley…and may what is ur religion too?
iam waiting mr Edwin………….
KHOLIO.
I have told you, I am a monodeist.
1) Shahadah (profession of faith)
I do not need to profess my faith to anyone. I only need it inside myself
2) Salat (ritual prayer five times each day)
God does not need my worship. My grateful thanks for this one experience of life is constantly within me.
3) Sawm (fasting during Ramadan)
No day or period of time is any more holy than another.
4) Zakat (Islamic tax or tithing)
I am a pillar of my community and perform works of contribution to my society through organizations I belong to. I contribute my time to those things I believe are right.
5) Hajj (Pilgrimage to Mecca at least once during life).
No place on earth is anymore holy than any other. I do not need to perform Hajj
I hope that is a complete and clear answer to your inquiry
well,thanks any way to choose to answer Edwin,iam gonna reply,but i need to know ur religion plz to can reply good way….so,may u tell us,which scripture u follow?…..after u do,i will analyse ur words one after one …thanks
its so important to know ur religious background if we r into a religious discusion mr Edwin….what iam sure about, that u r a secular one….but i didnt get ur category of faith yet….so ,may u do?……………..
Edwin,if u didnt reply my question,i will count myself as winer,coz my debat was opening as a challengment from the begining………………what is ur religion..jew or christian?
KHOLIO,
Thank you for you interest in my belief system, I have now told you my religion twice. The only point I was trying to make, was that it is wrong of certain commentators to use the prevalence of certain search terms to suggest that followers of Islam were a particularly dirty minded lot.
so,now u wanna give up?come on and tell me plz,what is ur religion exactley,and which kind of texts in ur scripture can be agree and confirm ur refusing to islam pillars?
Kholio you are missing the point, and Edwin I suggest you ignore him as he is not being very relevant at all to the thread at hand. As for your comment here:
I agree with this, it was far from the intention of this post. The intention of the post was to show that sex being a taboo is what causes this kind of “curiosity” (and I would go as far as to say perversion, too) in our sheltered societies. If sex wasn’t a taboo, and if young people went through sex education, I believe the search results would be very different.
KHOLIO, my you are an impatient person. I do have other things to do beside sit here and wait for you to snipe at me. Wherever did you get the bizarre idea that this was a discussion of religion? I have politely answered the questions that you have asked, even though religion is a private matter. Is it an attribute of your religious belief system, that everything is a competition, which you need to win? Is it your intent to debate the relative merits of various religious beliefs? I am curious why you have made the assumption that I am either a jew or a christian. You can know from the fact that I have twice now, and do so a third time, asserted that I am a monodeist, that I am neither a jew, nor a christian. Please tell me why you have made these assumptions.
Edwin,i challenge u to show me any kind of scriptures in this world ,special the bible or the old testament,show us if any holy verse say no sacred place can be over other places,no sacred day can be over others ,and tell us which laws of any cuntries forbide taxes or how can any economy be estabilshed without taxes?answer plz or u r loser……………….
Esra, I have found from my own experience that repression leads to morbid curiosity, and openness dispels. However it is much more than sex education in school, it is the parental attitude that matters the most in bringing up healthy children. If discussion of sex, or admission that humans are sexual beings is repressed at home, then when sex education is introduced at school, the children become giggling idiots. On the other hand there is also the idea that there can be too much exposure to sex, thus devaluing it as a matter of expression between couples. I have lived in cities where hard core pornography is openly for sale at every newspaper stand, and one cannot help seeing it. That in its own way is also a perversion. It has been my preference to admit that we are sexually motivated beings, but to keep the actual practice as a private matter between the people who are doing it.
If it’s parental, then you propose that we educate the parents, too. Not everyone is as wise as you are. In terms of doing something effectively as a community, sex education makes sense to me, both to the parents and children. We can’t rely on parents to come to their senses in taboo-filled societies where “sex” is not to be uttered in most households.
Esra, yet you have no difficulty discussing here, on this forum. It takes years of exposure to new ideas to change the way in which people think, and that is what you appear to be doing here, opening discussion, causing people to think for themselves. For the longest time, so called “christian” countries were repressive, and it is my belief that the main reason for it was to prevent out of wedlock pregnancy, at times when contraception was not available, so to control it, shame was introduced to control peoples behavior. I do not know if that is the case in Islamic countries, but I do know that many Imams are quite happy to discuss sex and sex related problems, with no appearance of shame associated with it. So I have to conclude that just because there is repression, which leads to lewd curiosity in Islamic countries, it is not a fault of Islam itself.
KHOLIO, thank you for your invitation to discuss religious matters, but as I have asserted that I am neither Jew, nor Christian, you can reasonably know that the contents of the “Bible” have no meaning for me, and so I must regretfully decline to enter into your competition of which texts say what. However if you are determined to find out more about my religion, I suggest that you read the laws of God as stated in the one place common to us all and written by no creatures hand.
Ok Edwin,i have to answer u now logical way ,out of religious texts or scriptures….u told u refuse the pillars of islam which may make one place is holy than other places,right?so,may u look at all geograghical places same way?or may be deserts are better than gardens for example?or may place or country be more important or great for its place on the map or on the earth?so may the salty water in sea or ocean can be equal with the rivers water?…..u should look at the events which happen in some places to determine how this places is important more than others…..so if its important may that make it sacred for god for its history and the events which passed over it…………….,so,its same for the days,or months,its not similars as the atmosphers say,or as the astrology say,and as seasons say……so may evnets and actions in some days make it important than others….the spring not like automne for example,etc……….and as i said for the taxes,no economy of country…no country can be established without taxes…..i can discus ur words one after one….,but i find u run away to discus religions……………….
KHOLIO, I admire your persistence in attempting to force me into a discussion of religion, however, this forum is not an appropriate place for this discussion, this forum is about sexual repression, education and the perceptions that others have of taboos. Religion really is such a trivial and unimportant thing for you to be wasting your time and efforts on, but if you absolutely insist I will be happy to satisfy your need to learn about my religion in a place that is appropriate to that purpose. Please provide me with an appropriate forum or email address and I will be delighted to converse with you there. In the meantime, I suggest that you stop trying to hijack the purpose of this forum, and my attempt to defend the Islamic religion from attacks by others, who would use the information presented for scurrilous purposes.
OK Edwin,this is what i was thinking about ,making private chat…this is my e mail paris_paris76@yahoo.com…………,,i will be happy to discus u any time u love,around religions or any other subject u choose
just notice,i just was annoyed from ur saying in the beginning that u dont respect islam philosophy in this short way short words….not enough to make sense to me or any man of logic
welcome any time…….
KHOLIO, Not everyone in the world is Islamic. In Turkey many people who leave Islam become Deist like me, It was necessary for me to state clearly that I opposed the misuse of the information on this site by people who had an anti-Islamic agenda, even though I am not a Muslim myself. I really don’t see why my having a differing philosophical view point should annoy you, after all part of what makes the world interesting, is that God created great diversity, in appearance and mind, and if everyone saw the world in the same way, the world would become much less interesting.
Esra, I apologize to you if the way in which I have stated things has caused too much off topic discussion on your board. I shall write to KHOLIO directly.
Edwin,yes you annoyed me when i found u want to apear like if you wanna defend for islam is someway,while you type in the same line that you dont respect islam…how can i see that but SCHEZOPHRENIC?-,excuse me but its the right word for perefect description…….
so plz,dont talk about percents of ppl leave islam to deisme in Turkey or any other country….it dosent work here ,not a useful way,stop mixing matters plz..
we are all know very well,how Turkey gonna turn to islamic laws step by step ,we all know about the last elections..
waiting your e mailing….,thank you
KHOLIO, you are annoying, you are not logical. Get on with the original topic.
Jina ,i didnt see any precedent active comments of you,so,whow u come and accuse me iam not logical?
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Great article, if anything it says a lot about who we really (typically) are when social factors are removed.
I look at a lot of the behaviour experienced in online gaming as another example of this more ‘natural’ aspect to ourselves. Take away personal accountability and/or possible consequences and the outcome is really sobering. Online gaming has made me sceptical about human nature at large.
All of that said though, Im not so sure it is fair to conclude that a lack of sexual freedom results in perversion and sexual misadventure. I know that was Freud’s take on the matter, but he had plenty of novel ideas..women are so envious.
I think if we look at rates of abortion as an indication of unprepared for pregnancy, exclusively in western domains, we can probably see a vast difference between pre and post-liberation periods. Data wont be complete here, but in general Im sure some degree of difference can be discerned.
More recently and reliably is the aggregate findings from social cognitive studies as they relate to media, aggression and behaviours in general. Most studies have shown a significant link between long term media exposure of violence and corresponding behaviour in children or adults.
In related studies, pornography has been shown to desensitise and even promote the idea of violence against women.
Other factors such as supposed biological dispositions have been dually tested and compared and shown to not primarily account for the overall trend resulting from the relationships in question.
Biology and the like all play their part, the important point to fully recognise is the extent to which human social behaviour is constructed from environmental sources.
It seems like problems are everywhere. Personally if I had a choice, I would follow the advice suggested above regarding swamping the ME with liberal amounts of pornography and video games. If only on the assumption this would end the nightmarish oppression against women in those parts. I would simply see this as the lesser of two evils.
However that seems to birth another set of unique problems, where, to continue the divide, in the West young girls are being raised in a contemporary environment that enshrines the pron star mindset in place of the princess ideal that used to predominate.
Maybe the Princess ideal is more ‘oppressive’, but this unchecked emphasis on sexuality and the extent to which it has pervaded society is becoming readily apparent in the social normalities of young children.
I think it is really complicated being human, we are all in a spot of bother. We just need to keep trying to work it all out.
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I am mot sure that rank is right but i know and heard more than one time that said that :
west in sex is very high number of east and middleeast so U can update Ur rank and don’t disturb other nation.
All these sexual images and information has killed our souls.there was a time once wen it wasnt rocket science havin sex.keep a lid on it, coz wen da worlds resources run dry,then the consequnces of unlimmited sexual freedom will become brutally manifest,its easy makeing peace by fuckin around wen uve got enough food to throw away.
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