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> <channel><title>Comments on: Persepolis</title> <atom:link href="http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/11/30/persepolis/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/11/30/persepolis/</link> <description>Promoting a fierce but respectful dialogue among the highly diverse youth of the Middle East</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 07:05:20 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: elinor(Iran)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/11/30/persepolis/#comment-95842</link> <dc:creator>elinor(Iran)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:18:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/11/30/persepolis/#comment-95842</guid> <description>Ann :)This is a very good thing to teach, but I do understadn how you might feel. Depends on the country, perhaps it wouldn&#039;t be a problem if you ask the authorities of the school in advance, the book is mild, it is from the point of view of an innocent kid, affected by the course of change in the Middle Eat, just make sure some one responsible agrees with it. Then you can also ask them to find out if a part is particularly offensive, that part could be taken out, so that the rest would be taught :)
I would really like to know how kids would react, what they will say about the book.
Even one might not do it as some thing official or a formal teaching thing, I downloaded as many pictures from the cartoon as I could and I asked my kids  to read the commic as an English assinment, she loved the graphics and many questions she asked about the history and that was a good time and place that I could explain about all the controvertial issues we even do not know how to talk about them with the younger generation. :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann <img
src='http://www.mideastyouth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>This is a very good thing to teach, but I do understadn how you might feel. Depends on the country, perhaps it wouldn&#8217;t be a problem if you ask the authorities of the school in advance, the book is mild, it is from the point of view of an innocent kid, affected by the course of change in the Middle Eat, just make sure some one responsible agrees with it. Then you can also ask them to find out if a part is particularly offensive, that part could be taken out, so that the rest would be taught <img
src='http://www.mideastyouth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br
/> I would really like to know how kids would react, what they will say about the book.<br
/> Even one might not do it as some thing official or a formal teaching thing, I downloaded as many pictures from the cartoon as I could and I asked my kids  to read the commic as an English assinment, she loved the graphics and many questions she asked about the history and that was a good time and place that I could explain about all the controvertial issues we even do not know how to talk about them with the younger generation. <img
src='http://www.mideastyouth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mohammad Memarian (Iran)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/11/30/persepolis/#comment-95137</link> <dc:creator>Mohammad Memarian (Iran)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:30:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/11/30/persepolis/#comment-95137</guid> <description>Ann:though Ive not read the book or seen the movie yet, I think nobody would assume it offensive to Islam. yes, it might be offensive (realistic?) to Iran&#039;s regime, but if you are going to teach it somewhere other than Iran, that seems ok.just a question: isnt there any graphic sample of Alice in Wonderland?! thats less dangerous for sure!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann:</p><p>though Ive not read the book or seen the movie yet, I think nobody would assume it offensive to Islam. yes, it might be offensive (realistic?) to Iran&#8217;s regime, but if you are going to teach it somewhere other than Iran, that seems ok.</p><p>just a question: isnt there any graphic sample of Alice in Wonderland?! thats less dangerous for sure!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ann Onymous</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/11/30/persepolis/#comment-95127</link> <dc:creator>Ann Onymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:03:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/11/30/persepolis/#comment-95127</guid> <description>So, I want to teach this book as part of an elective on graphic novels but am worried about the offence/controversy it might cause.  Most of my students are Muslim and I live in a conservative Muslim country.  After the teddy bear thing in Sudan it makes it hard to draw a meaningful line but still keep one&#039;s classes real.  Any advice?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I want to teach this book as part of an elective on graphic novels but am worried about the offence/controversy it might cause.  Most of my students are Muslim and I live in a conservative Muslim country.  After the teddy bear thing in Sudan it makes it hard to draw a meaningful line but still keep one&#8217;s classes real.  Any advice?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Elinor(Iran)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/11/30/persepolis/#comment-94579</link> <dc:creator>Elinor(Iran)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 20:38:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/11/30/persepolis/#comment-94579</guid> <description>Mohammad,
So far I can speak out in the weblogs, in the society, in the family, in the university, every where i am hushed when i say some thing that sounds dangerous, very simple things appear to be dangerous here.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mohammad,<br
/> So far I can speak out in the weblogs, in the society, in the family, in the university, every where i am hushed when i say some thing that sounds dangerous, very simple things appear to be dangerous here.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mohammad Memarian (Iran)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/11/30/persepolis/#comment-94118</link> <dc:creator>Mohammad Memarian (Iran)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 06:55:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/11/30/persepolis/#comment-94118</guid> <description>as others pointed out, this animation can not be assumed an average report; but as Ive heard, there is no lie in it, and it is very important.indeed, an average report and portray consists of views of all the members of society. if each one is allowed to speak out, a fair picture will appear.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as others pointed out, this animation can not be assumed an average report; but as Ive heard, there is no lie in it, and it is very important.</p><p>indeed, an average report and portray consists of views of all the members of society. if each one is allowed to speak out, a fair picture will appear.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Elinor  from Iran</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/11/30/persepolis/#comment-94070</link> <dc:creator>Elinor  from Iran</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 01:16:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/11/30/persepolis/#comment-94070</guid> <description>Tasnim
I have just seen some parts of the animation here and there, and it truely mirros what is happening here, what has happened, what a beautiful animation, simple and honest narration, all the right questions being asked through the movie, wether we know the answer ,or history will gradually answer these qustions over the time.
I am happy that the movie is going to be screened in Jeruslam and USA, I feel I can speack out , as an Iranian woman through the movie :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tasnim<br
/> I have just seen some parts of the animation here and there, and it truely mirros what is happening here, what has happened, what a beautiful animation, simple and honest narration, all the right questions being asked through the movie, wether we know the answer ,or history will gradually answer these qustions over the time.<br
/> I am happy that the movie is going to be screened in Jeruslam and USA, I feel I can speack out , as an Iranian woman through the movie <img
src='http://www.mideastyouth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tasnim (Libya)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/11/30/persepolis/#comment-93703</link> <dc:creator>Tasnim (Libya)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:00:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/11/30/persepolis/#comment-93703</guid> <description>Exactly, they are not representative. But they are promoted as representative. There’s more to that than arbitrary advertising, it involves simplifying and othering a whole society/culture/world.&lt;blockquote&gt;...offer moments of insight that outsiders to the culture may never otherwise see&lt;/blockquote&gt;The problem is that these insiders are often self-admittedly outsiders, and not in a metaphorical sense either, but literally foreign to the culture they so vividly portray. Which is why their assuming authority to explain that culture is ‘problematic’, for lack of a better word.Satrapi does not pretend to be telling every Iranian’s story, which makes her different, but doesn’t alter the gushing reviews that fill in every other line with exotic this and incomprehensible that.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly, they are not representative. But they are promoted as representative. There’s more to that than arbitrary advertising, it involves simplifying and othering a whole society/culture/world.</p><blockquote><p>&#8230;offer moments of insight that outsiders to the culture may never otherwise see</p></blockquote><p>The problem is that these insiders are often self-admittedly outsiders, and not in a metaphorical sense either, but literally foreign to the culture they so vividly portray. Which is why their assuming authority to explain that culture is ‘problematic’, for lack of a better word.</p><p>Satrapi does not pretend to be telling every Iranian’s story, which makes her different, but doesn’t alter the gushing reviews that fill in every other line with exotic this and incomprehensible that.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: eric/canada</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/11/30/persepolis/#comment-93473</link> <dc:creator>eric/canada</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 00:43:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/11/30/persepolis/#comment-93473</guid> <description>Damn, this looks like an amazing GN...I regret so say that I will probably have to wait and snag the film from the torrents (I have no idea where the &quot;alternative&quot; (quality) theatres are in this burg..the draw of these kind of works is not that they are representative, but offer moments of insight that outsiders to the culture may never otherwise see.  One can never assume that artists are the barometers of average conduct of any culture; quite the reverse, usually.  Experiental and anecdotal details may be overlooked as incedental to a member of said culture, but can be of ephipanic importance from a fresh perspective (woot, lil giddy from shovelin snow there...)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, this looks like an amazing GN&#8230;I regret so say that I will probably have to wait and snag the film from the torrents (I have no idea where the &#8220;alternative&#8221; (quality) theatres are in this burg..the draw of these kind of works is not that they are representative, but offer moments of insight that outsiders to the culture may never otherwise see.  One can never assume that artists are the barometers of average conduct of any culture; quite the reverse, usually.  Experiental and anecdotal details may be overlooked as incedental to a member of said culture, but can be of ephipanic importance from a fresh perspective (woot, lil giddy from shovelin snow there&#8230;)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: TeacherLady</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/11/30/persepolis/#comment-93216</link> <dc:creator>TeacherLady</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:26:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/11/30/persepolis/#comment-93216</guid> <description>Yay!I&#039;ve been waiting for this for a while. Thanks for the essay, most insightful!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay!I&#8217;ve been waiting for this for a while. Thanks for the essay, most insightful!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tasnim (Libya)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/11/30/persepolis/#comment-93128</link> <dc:creator>Tasnim (Libya)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 00:28:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/11/30/persepolis/#comment-93128</guid> <description>thanks :DI guess we focus more on the differences. Some people are even offended by the idea that there are similarities... but an obvious one is that there&#039;s this audience for &#039;biographical&#039; works from both arab and iranian writers who appropriately represent their &#039;worlds&#039;, eg the writer of In the Country of Men, who is anything but an average Libyan.anyway, that&#039;s sort of why the post came out longer and more critical than intended ;)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks <img
src='http://www.mideastyouth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>I guess we focus more on the differences. Some people are even offended by the idea that there are similarities&#8230; but an obvious one is that there&#8217;s this audience for &#8216;biographical&#8217; works from both arab and iranian writers who appropriately represent their &#8216;worlds&#8217;, eg the writer of In the Country of Men, who is anything but an average Libyan.</p><p>anyway, that&#8217;s sort of why the post came out longer and more critical than intended <img
src='http://www.mideastyouth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mohammad Memarian (Iran)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/11/30/persepolis/#comment-92782</link> <dc:creator>Mohammad Memarian (Iran)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:35:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/11/30/persepolis/#comment-92782</guid> <description>Ive not read the book or watched the movie yet, but the thing I can say about this short essay is this: a very good post, Tasnim!you covered lots of important details, and I wonder if such societies (mine and yours) are so identical that a member of one is able to analyze the other (or works affiliated with other) without having any personal experience of that other society.good luck</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ive not read the book or watched the movie yet, but the thing I can say about this short essay is this: a very good post, Tasnim!</p><p>you covered lots of important details, and I wonder if such societies (mine and yours) are so identical that a member of one is able to analyze the other (or works affiliated with other) without having any personal experience of that other society.</p><p>good luck</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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