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		<title>By: &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Security Update: Can Activists Trust YouTube?</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Security Update: Can Activists Trust YouTube?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] due to videos of torture which he had posted. Though his account was re-activated a few days later, all his videos had been removed. YouTube&#8217;s side of the story is that Abbas had violated their terms of use by posting videos [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] due to videos of torture which he had posted. Though his account was re-activated a few days later, all his videos had been removed. YouTube&#8217;s side of the story is that Abbas had violated their terms of use by posting videos [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Esra'a</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/03/is-youtube-feeding-the-regional-crackdown-on-cyber-activists/#comment-15619</link>
		<dc:creator>Esra'a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its been noted. We&#039;ll follow it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its been noted. We&#8217;ll follow it up.</p>
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		<title>By: levylevthuglife</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/03/is-youtube-feeding-the-regional-crackdown-on-cyber-activists/#comment-15618</link>
		<dc:creator>levylevthuglife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I know I am off topic but I read a disturbing story yesterday about honor killings in Israel.  I would like to get the word out and help these women but I am very busy at work these days.  Since the topic seems very relevant to this blog I was thus wondering if anyone here would like to follow this story.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/930330.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;See Here&lt;/a&gt;.  Thanx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I know I am off topic but I read a disturbing story yesterday about honor killings in Israel.  I would like to get the word out and help these women but I am very busy at work these days.  Since the topic seems very relevant to this blog I was thus wondering if anyone here would like to follow this story.  <a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/930330.html" rel="nofollow">See Here</a>.  Thanx</p>
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		<title>By: Sol</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/03/is-youtube-feeding-the-regional-crackdown-on-cyber-activists/#comment-15617</link>
		<dc:creator>Sol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 12:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Google are focused on there business model and cash flow,  then censorship is not a good shout for them, no matter where the influence is coming from. It would take a hell of a PR company to reverse the damaging effects of that. I have to say, I haven&#039;t had that problem accessing info on Google, I think for the most part, it allows controversial issues to be posted on its sites, and is careful in the way it is perceived. I’m sure if enough people started detecting a substantial shift in googles agenda, google would have a major problem</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Google are focused on there business model and cash flow,  then censorship is not a good shout for them, no matter where the influence is coming from. It would take a hell of a PR company to reverse the damaging effects of that. I have to say, I haven&#8217;t had that problem accessing info on Google, I think for the most part, it allows controversial issues to be posted on its sites, and is careful in the way it is perceived. I’m sure if enough people started detecting a substantial shift in googles agenda, google would have a major problem</p>
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		<title>By: Tamara (Syria, UAE &#38; UK)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/03/is-youtube-feeding-the-regional-crackdown-on-cyber-activists/#comment-15616</link>
		<dc:creator>Tamara (Syria, UAE &#38; UK)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 02:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;The state exists for man, not man for the state. The same may be said of science. These are old phrases, coined by people who saw in human individuality the highest human value. I would hesitate to repeat them, were it not for the ever recurring danger that they may be forgotten, especially in these days of organization and stereotypes.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This quote by Einstein is just as applicable today, and can be extended to corporations and their use, control and manipulation of the people, for their own financial and political gains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;The state exists for man, not man for the state. The same may be said of science. These are old phrases, coined by people who saw in human individuality the highest human value. I would hesitate to repeat them, were it not for the ever recurring danger that they may be forgotten, especially in these days of organization and stereotypes.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>This quote by Einstein is just as applicable today, and can be extended to corporations and their use, control and manipulation of the people, for their own financial and political gains.</p>
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		<title>By: Tamara (Syria, UAE &#38; UK)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/03/is-youtube-feeding-the-regional-crackdown-on-cyber-activists/#comment-15615</link>
		<dc:creator>Tamara (Syria, UAE &#38; UK)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Murad,

Would you agree that the mainstream media represents reality poorly and in a relatively biased manner?

If you do, then you are also likely to agree that the information we get from the mainstream media is greatly informed and determined by the interests of the investors in these multi-national mega corporations, that dominate this industry.  I am not saying that there are no alternatives to the mainstream, simply highlighting the types of sources of information from which the &#039;majority&#039; of the people will base their opinion.

This domination by mega corporations, is no different from the so far succeful attempt by certain other corporations to dominate the internet - video sharing, blogging etc... If this is successful, then we are under a very real threat of losing, as Esra&#039;a has pointed out, our right to free speech on one of the most popular, most effective means of communication we have today.

If what we have to say is not in line with or somehow upsets the &#039;investors&#039; and their cash flow, then we are silenced and crushed, or so much easier with technology now.. &#039;erased&#039;. Do we really want an &#039;internets&#039; that looks like the mainstream media?? Do we really want the people&#039;s only source of information to be guided by the standard of thought and discussion that is available on the mainstream media?

Why should we only expect to receive something adequate if we are willing to pay a huge fee? The internet can&#039;t just become another area that capitalism can dominate and/or destroy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Murad,</p>
<p>Would you agree that the mainstream media represents reality poorly and in a relatively biased manner?</p>
<p>If you do, then you are also likely to agree that the information we get from the mainstream media is greatly informed and determined by the interests of the investors in these multi-national mega corporations, that dominate this industry.  I am not saying that there are no alternatives to the mainstream, simply highlighting the types of sources of information from which the &#8216;majority&#8217; of the people will base their opinion.</p>
<p>This domination by mega corporations, is no different from the so far succeful attempt by certain other corporations to dominate the internet &#8211; video sharing, blogging etc&#8230; If this is successful, then we are under a very real threat of losing, as Esra&#8217;a has pointed out, our right to free speech on one of the most popular, most effective means of communication we have today.</p>
<p>If what we have to say is not in line with or somehow upsets the &#8216;investors&#8217; and their cash flow, then we are silenced and crushed, or so much easier with technology now.. &#8216;erased&#8217;. Do we really want an &#8216;internets&#8217; that looks like the mainstream media?? Do we really want the people&#8217;s only source of information to be guided by the standard of thought and discussion that is available on the mainstream media?</p>
<p>Why should we only expect to receive something adequate if we are willing to pay a huge fee? The internet can&#8217;t just become another area that capitalism can dominate and/or destroy.</p>
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		<title>By: Esra'a</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/03/is-youtube-feeding-the-regional-crackdown-on-cyber-activists/#comment-15614</link>
		<dc:creator>Esra'a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;They have a lot of responsibilities.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
A big part of which is user satisfaction.
&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s a big company with very big operations.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Murad, this is the WHOLE POINT! It is a big and growing company owning and recording our every move which they can turn in to the relevant authorities when threatened to do so (with something even as simple as a &quot;blockage.&quot;) Because God forbid they lose traffic/profits. I mean even if you want to avoid using Google, every freakin&#039; tab has a Google search on it, on most websites, and they&#039;re shoving their butts in everyone&#039;s businesses wanting a piece of the action.

It&#039;s like a cancerous tumor growing on the internet, and it&#039;s time for us to convince it to take some medication if it doesn&#039;t calm down. We don&#039;t want to lose the war for free speech on the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>They have a lot of responsibilities.</p></blockquote>
<p>A big part of which is user satisfaction.</p>
<blockquote><p>It’s a big company with very big operations.</p></blockquote>
<p>Murad, this is the WHOLE POINT! It is a big and growing company owning and recording our every move which they can turn in to the relevant authorities when threatened to do so (with something even as simple as a &#8220;blockage.&#8221;) Because God forbid they lose traffic/profits. I mean even if you want to avoid using Google, every freakin&#8217; tab has a Google search on it, on most websites, and they&#8217;re shoving their butts in everyone&#8217;s businesses wanting a piece of the action.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like a cancerous tumor growing on the internet, and it&#8217;s time for us to convince it to take some medication if it doesn&#8217;t calm down. We don&#8217;t want to lose the war for free speech on the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Murad</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/03/is-youtube-feeding-the-regional-crackdown-on-cyber-activists/#comment-15613</link>
		<dc:creator>Murad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why should they apologise? They&#039;re not forcing us to use their products. It&#039;s a big company with very big operations. They have a lot of responsibilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should they apologise? They&#8217;re not forcing us to use their products. It&#8217;s a big company with very big operations. They have a lot of responsibilities.</p>
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		<title>By: Amal</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/03/is-youtube-feeding-the-regional-crackdown-on-cyber-activists/#comment-15612</link>
		<dc:creator>Amal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;the tagline is “broadcast yourself,” after all, and this includes incredible bores with no lives.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
:D :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the tagline is “broadcast yourself,” after all, and this includes incredible bores with no lives.</p></blockquote>
<p> <img src='http://www.mideastyouth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://www.mideastyouth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Esra'a</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/03/is-youtube-feeding-the-regional-crackdown-on-cyber-activists/#comment-15611</link>
		<dc:creator>Esra'a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tamara, I agree. These corporations thrive on their users/viewers/paid subscribers. Without us using their services, they&#039;re nothing. If they keep this up I really hope to see it backfire in the worst way possible, where people just start leaving and letting them realize that this is not how we want such sites to be handled.

Too bad 70% of YouTube is a bunch of 13 year olds talking about Paris Hilton&#039;s new hairdo (leik ohmygosh, pink is sooo in!). There&#039;s lots of trash on that site, videos I wish I can just crumble up and throw against the wall. And it&#039;s fine that they&#039;re on there, the tagline is &quot;broadcast yourself,&quot; after all, and this includes incredible bores with no lives. But then we see real videos, ones that hold much importance, being removed from the database for reasons that are very unclear. YouTube&#039;s got some explaining to do to the public at least!

A public and sincere apology is the least they can do. Google used to be good at that, remember? &quot;We&#039;re sorry that we gave in to censorship in China!&quot; after people began questioning their ethics. And then, &quot;we&#039;re sorry that Jew Watch comes first for &#039;Jew&#039; in Google search!&quot; so how about &quot;yes, we wrongly suspended a member&#039;s account and made him lose all his videos and we&#039;re sorry for that, too!&quot; it&#039;s not so hard and would help us restore our faith in their services at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tamara, I agree. These corporations thrive on their users/viewers/paid subscribers. Without us using their services, they&#8217;re nothing. If they keep this up I really hope to see it backfire in the worst way possible, where people just start leaving and letting them realize that this is not how we want such sites to be handled.</p>
<p>Too bad 70% of YouTube is a bunch of 13 year olds talking about Paris Hilton&#8217;s new hairdo (leik ohmygosh, pink is sooo in!). There&#8217;s lots of trash on that site, videos I wish I can just crumble up and throw against the wall. And it&#8217;s fine that they&#8217;re on there, the tagline is &#8220;broadcast yourself,&#8221; after all, and this includes incredible bores with no lives. But then we see real videos, ones that hold much importance, being removed from the database for reasons that are very unclear. YouTube&#8217;s got some explaining to do to the public at least!</p>
<p>A public and sincere apology is the least they can do. Google used to be good at that, remember? &#8220;We&#8217;re sorry that we gave in to censorship in China!&#8221; after people began questioning their ethics. And then, &#8220;we&#8217;re sorry that Jew Watch comes first for &#8216;Jew&#8217; in Google search!&#8221; so how about &#8220;yes, we wrongly suspended a member&#8217;s account and made him lose all his videos and we&#8217;re sorry for that, too!&#8221; it&#8217;s not so hard and would help us restore our faith in their services at least.</p>
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