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		<title>By: Jina</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/04/muslim-preacher-preaches-compassion-and-tolerance-towards-homosexuals/#comment-15644</link>
		<dc:creator>Jina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 14:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If all you’re going to offer is laughing and quoting of context, then I feel obligated to tell you. No one gives a shit what you have to say.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Everyone except you... don&#039;t categorize everyone else with you. And when an idiot makes an idiotic comment, there is no point in debating any point... I am not going to debate you when you argue that 1+1 is 3...

You are an ignoramus and stay like that... you are doing your kind a favour so we can all laugh at you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If all you’re going to offer is laughing and quoting of context, then I feel obligated to tell you. No one gives a shit what you have to say.</p></blockquote>
<p>Everyone except you&#8230; don&#8217;t categorize everyone else with you. And when an idiot makes an idiotic comment, there is no point in debating any point&#8230; I am not going to debate you when you argue that 1+1 is 3&#8230;</p>
<p>You are an ignoramus and stay like that&#8230; you are doing your kind a favour so we can all laugh at you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Esra'a</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/04/muslim-preacher-preaches-compassion-and-tolerance-towards-homosexuals/#comment-15643</link>
		<dc:creator>Esra'a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 10:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;No one gives a shit what you have to say.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Actually, I give a shit to what he has to say.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Esra,
You’ve completely dodged the point.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
How so? You implied that homosexual activism is a Western concept, with absolutely nothing to back it up. If homosexuality has existed way before (it is obviously pre-Islamic) then so has the fight for their rights. I can&#039;t bare witnessing people sitting around and dismissing anything they dislike as a corrupt form of &quot;Westernization.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No one gives a shit what you have to say.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, I give a shit to what he has to say.</p>
<blockquote><p>Esra,<br />
You’ve completely dodged the point.</p></blockquote>
<p>How so? You implied that homosexual activism is a Western concept, with absolutely nothing to back it up. If homosexuality has existed way before (it is obviously pre-Islamic) then so has the fight for their rights. I can&#8217;t bare witnessing people sitting around and dismissing anything they dislike as a corrupt form of &#8220;Westernization.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: TI3GIB</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/04/muslim-preacher-preaches-compassion-and-tolerance-towards-homosexuals/#comment-15642</link>
		<dc:creator>TI3GIB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 07:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;PeacefulVanguard,&lt;/strong&gt;
Says nature. Duality is nature&#039;s (notice I didn&#039;t say god&#039;s) bred solution to the continuation of life. Homosexuality in that sense is a pursuit towards a dysfunction of that order. Not to mention that spiritually (notice i didn&#039;t say god here either) it&#039;s a portrayal of strict self-accomplishment and show poor moral towards integration and belonging.

&lt;strong&gt;Jina,&lt;/strong&gt;
If all you&#039;re going to offer is laughing and quoting of context, then I feel obligated to tell you. No one gives a shit what you have to say.

&lt;strong&gt;Esra,&lt;/strong&gt;
You&#039;ve completely dodged the point.

Thanks,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>PeacefulVanguard,</strong><br />
Says nature. Duality is nature&#8217;s (notice I didn&#8217;t say god&#8217;s) bred solution to the continuation of life. Homosexuality in that sense is a pursuit towards a dysfunction of that order. Not to mention that spiritually (notice i didn&#8217;t say god here either) it&#8217;s a portrayal of strict self-accomplishment and show poor moral towards integration and belonging.</p>
<p><strong>Jina,</strong><br />
If all you&#8217;re going to offer is laughing and quoting of context, then I feel obligated to tell you. No one gives a shit what you have to say.</p>
<p><strong>Esra,</strong><br />
You&#8217;ve completely dodged the point.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
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		<title>By: PeacefulVanguard</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/04/muslim-preacher-preaches-compassion-and-tolerance-towards-homosexuals/#comment-15641</link>
		<dc:creator>PeacefulVanguard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 03:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The notion that this activism suggests is poorly drafted and unconvincing in refuting how &lt;strong&gt;homosexuality is an abnormality against nature&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.seedmagazine.com/news/2006/06/the_gay_animal_kingdom.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Says who?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The notion that this activism suggests is poorly drafted and unconvincing in refuting how <strong>homosexuality is an abnormality against nature</strong>.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.seedmagazine.com/news/2006/06/the_gay_animal_kingdom.php" rel="nofollow">Says who?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Danial</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Rampant homosexuality was responsible for the decline of the Greek and Roman empires.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I suppose rampant homosexuality in Saudi Arabia and the Pashtun penchant for raping little boys in their madrassas will further spur the downward spiral of Islamic societies, by that logic.

Thanks for clearing that up for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Rampant homosexuality was responsible for the decline of the Greek and Roman empires.</p></blockquote>
<p>I suppose rampant homosexuality in Saudi Arabia and the Pashtun penchant for raping little boys in their madrassas will further spur the downward spiral of Islamic societies, by that logic.</p>
<p>Thanks for clearing that up for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jina</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/04/muslim-preacher-preaches-compassion-and-tolerance-towards-homosexuals/#comment-15639</link>
		<dc:creator>Jina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Rampant homosexuality was responsible for the decline of the Greek and Roman empires.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I almost laughed myself to death...

&lt;blockquote&gt;It suggest that gay people deserve gay rights because they’re gay, from that same concept what rights do I deserve as a straight male for being a straight male. It doesn’t make any sense and it feeds to it’s immorality and abnormality.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Let me quote Einstein....
&lt;em&gt;Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I&#039;m not sure about the universe.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Rampant homosexuality was responsible for the decline of the Greek and Roman empires.</p></blockquote>
<p>I almost laughed myself to death&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>It suggest that gay people deserve gay rights because they’re gay, from that same concept what rights do I deserve as a straight male for being a straight male. It doesn’t make any sense and it feeds to it’s immorality and abnormality.</p></blockquote>
<p>Let me quote Einstein&#8230;.<br />
<em>Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I&#8217;m not sure about the universe.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Esra'a</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esra'a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

Rampant homosexuality was responsible for the decline of the Greek and Roman empires.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It had nothing to do with political and territorial disputes, I&#039;m sure. Damn those homosexuals.</description>
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<p>Rampant homosexuality was responsible for the decline of the Greek and Roman empires.</p></blockquote>
<p>It had nothing to do with political and territorial disputes, I&#8217;m sure. Damn those homosexuals.</p>
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		<title>By: daniyaal</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniyaal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rampant homosexuality was responsible for the decline of the Greek and Roman empires.</description>
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		<title>By: Esra'a</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esra'a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, just because it&#039;s more visible in the West, does not at all make it something derived from the West. Since homosexuality has existed way, way before the whole &quot;West vs. Islam&quot; conspiracy came along, then so has gay rights activism. It has always existed, the difference is how much attention the media gives to it now as opposed to before when it was regarded as an even bigger taboo. Gay rights activism is not essentially Western. It&#039;s just more extensively covered and visible in Western media outlets.
&lt;blockquote&gt;The notion that this activism suggests is poorly drafted and unconvincing in refuting how homosexuality is an abnormality against nature.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
But do you think that justifies abuse against homosexuals?

I disagree with a homosexual&#039;s lifestyle. That is my personal opinion. But I won&#039;t impose this opinion on others and I will never claim the arrogance to tell them how they should live their lives.

They should be free to do what they want, no one has the right to impose their own opinions and beliefs on others regardless of how much we disagree. If they&#039;re not bothering us, why do we bother and oppress them? Let them live their life. Tolerating homosexuals doesn&#039;t mean you preach homosexuality, so what exactly do we lose if we tolerate their basic rights? It&#039;s not like our societies are going to be overridden with homosexuals, they are and will always be just a minority. I don&#039;t understand why people feel so threatened by it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, just because it&#8217;s more visible in the West, does not at all make it something derived from the West. Since homosexuality has existed way, way before the whole &#8220;West vs. Islam&#8221; conspiracy came along, then so has gay rights activism. It has always existed, the difference is how much attention the media gives to it now as opposed to before when it was regarded as an even bigger taboo. Gay rights activism is not essentially Western. It&#8217;s just more extensively covered and visible in Western media outlets.</p>
<blockquote><p>The notion that this activism suggests is poorly drafted and unconvincing in refuting how homosexuality is an abnormality against nature.</p></blockquote>
<p>But do you think that justifies abuse against homosexuals?</p>
<p>I disagree with a homosexual&#8217;s lifestyle. That is my personal opinion. But I won&#8217;t impose this opinion on others and I will never claim the arrogance to tell them how they should live their lives.</p>
<p>They should be free to do what they want, no one has the right to impose their own opinions and beliefs on others regardless of how much we disagree. If they&#8217;re not bothering us, why do we bother and oppress them? Let them live their life. Tolerating homosexuals doesn&#8217;t mean you preach homosexuality, so what exactly do we lose if we tolerate their basic rights? It&#8217;s not like our societies are going to be overridden with homosexuals, they are and will always be just a minority. I don&#8217;t understand why people feel so threatened by it.</p>
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		<title>By: TI3GIB</title>
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		<dc:creator>TI3GIB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 12:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Waleed,

I got that message clearly, but I see it as completely irrational and pointless. Facilitate the idea, but be counter to the inevitable action ? Why dance around the thought, and not go straight at it.

Very western inclined.

Esra,
I believe the point you failed to read from Waleed is the that not homosexuality itself, but rather homosexual rights activism was first practiced and derived from Western methodology. The notion that this activism suggests is poorly drafted and unconvincing in refuting how homosexuality is an abnormality against nature.

It suggest that gay people deserve gay rights because they&#039;re gay, from that same concept what rights do I deserve as a straight male for being a straight male. It doesn&#039;t make any sense and it feeds to it&#039;s immorality and abnormality.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waleed,</p>
<p>I got that message clearly, but I see it as completely irrational and pointless. Facilitate the idea, but be counter to the inevitable action ? Why dance around the thought, and not go straight at it.</p>
<p>Very western inclined.</p>
<p>Esra,<br />
I believe the point you failed to read from Waleed is the that not homosexuality itself, but rather homosexual rights activism was first practiced and derived from Western methodology. The notion that this activism suggests is poorly drafted and unconvincing in refuting how homosexuality is an abnormality against nature.</p>
<p>It suggest that gay people deserve gay rights because they&#8217;re gay, from that same concept what rights do I deserve as a straight male for being a straight male. It doesn&#8217;t make any sense and it feeds to it&#8217;s immorality and abnormality.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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