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> <channel><title>Comments on: Arab Christians abandoned and patronized by everyone</title> <atom:link href="http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/</link> <description>Promoting a fierce but respectful dialogue among the highly diverse youth of the Middle East</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:46:53 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: MyTwoCents</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-104548</link> <dc:creator>MyTwoCents</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:27:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-104548</guid> <description>RandallJones,It would mean Americans were partly to blame, wouldn&#039;t you say? To put it another way: I don&#039;t care how good his excuses are, &lt;em&gt;the guy pulling the trigger is part of the problem&lt;/em&gt;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RandallJones,</p><p>It would mean Americans were partly to blame, wouldn&#8217;t you say? To put it another way: I don&#8217;t care how good his excuses are, <em>the guy pulling the trigger is part of the problem</em>.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RandallJones</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-104534</link> <dc:creator>RandallJones</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:40:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-104534</guid> <description>MyTwoCents,So would it be alright if some foreign power bombed the U.S. infrastructure, jailed thousands of Americans without justifications, controlled the elections and flow of wealth, and used agent provocateurs to sow racial and religious violence because as soon as the foreign power dropped dead, the Americans would still be fighting each other.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MyTwoCents,</p><p>So would it be alright if some foreign power bombed the U.S. infrastructure, jailed thousands of Americans without justifications, controlled the elections and flow of wealth, and used agent provocateurs to sow racial and religious violence because as soon as the foreign power dropped dead, the Americans would still be fighting each other.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Danial</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-104424</link> <dc:creator>Danial</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 05:29:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-104424</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How about a few stories about understanding the Arab Christians in the Islamic World? Do they put up Crucifixes in the main squares in places like Kuwait? Yemen? Pakistan? Should I list all of the Islamic Nations?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Newsflash, Pakistan is not a Middle Eastern country nor does it have a population of Arab Christians. Why must you continue to fucking lump Pakistan with the rest of the Middle East?As for crucifixes in Pakistan, perhaps &lt;a href=&quot;http://pakistaniat.com/2007/01/02/churches-pakistan-church/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this blog post&lt;/a&gt; will help educate you on your ignorance of Pakistan. In addition, in the early 60&#039;s, Pakistan has seen a Christian occupying the position as the Chief Justice, A.R. Cornelius.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How about a few stories about understanding the Arab Christians in the Islamic World? Do they put up Crucifixes in the main squares in places like Kuwait? Yemen? Pakistan? Should I list all of the Islamic Nations?</p></blockquote><p>Newsflash, Pakistan is not a Middle Eastern country nor does it have a population of Arab Christians. Why must you continue to fucking lump Pakistan with the rest of the Middle East?</p><p>As for crucifixes in Pakistan, perhaps <a
href="http://pakistaniat.com/2007/01/02/churches-pakistan-church/" rel="nofollow">this blog post</a> will help educate you on your ignorance of Pakistan. In addition, in the early 60&#8217;s, Pakistan has seen a Christian occupying the position as the Chief Justice, A.R. Cornelius.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MyTwoCents</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-104367</link> <dc:creator>MyTwoCents</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 00:56:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-104367</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt; RandallJones Wrote:
R E Konrad, you wrote “Americans are NOT resposible for arabs killing each other in Iraq, Dude.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;Well, Randall, I&#039;m going to assume that everything you say is absolutely true, but I still have to give RE his point. After all, if every American in the world dropped dead tomorrow do you really think the violence would stop?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> RandallJones Wrote:<br
/> R E Konrad, you wrote “Americans are NOT resposible for arabs killing each other in Iraq, Dude.”</p></blockquote><p>Well, Randall, I&#8217;m going to assume that everything you say is absolutely true, but I still have to give RE his point. After all, if every American in the world dropped dead tomorrow do you really think the violence would stop?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RandallJones</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-104338</link> <dc:creator>RandallJones</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:53:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-104338</guid> <description>R E Konrad, you wrote &lt;i&gt;“Americans are NOT resposible for arabs killing each other in Iraq, Dude.”&lt;/i&gt;One thing that those on the political right and left have in common is that they pretend what is going on in Iraq is just a civil war.How can what is going on in Iraq just be called a civil war, when it is foreign governments (mainly USA and Britain) that
#1) bombed the country and destroyed its infrastructure
#2) rounds up thousands of Iraqis and jails them without justification
#3) makes decisions when elections are to take place and whether the results are valid
#4) benefit more from reconstruction projects than the Iraqis
#5) use agent provocateurs to fuel the violence, in order to have an excuse to continue occupying Iraq
#6)can break into jails to release prisoners against the Iraqi&#039;s governments wishes. (Remember when two British men where caught disguised as Arabs carrying explosives and weapons in their car? Their fellow British soldiers broke into the jail they were in and helped them to escape) see http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&amp;code=20051015&amp;articleId=1089The United States had helped Saddam Hussein into power and supported him strategically and financially, when he was committing his worst atrocities. The Iraqis have become scapegoats for U.S. foreign policy.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R E Konrad, you wrote <i>“Americans are NOT resposible for arabs killing each other in Iraq, Dude.”</i></p><p>One thing that those on the political right and left have in common is that they pretend what is going on in Iraq is just a civil war.</p><p>How can what is going on in Iraq just be called a civil war, when it is foreign governments (mainly USA and Britain) that<br
/> #1) bombed the country and destroyed its infrastructure<br
/> #2) rounds up thousands of Iraqis and jails them without justification<br
/> #3) makes decisions when elections are to take place and whether the results are valid<br
/> #4) benefit more from reconstruction projects than the Iraqis<br
/> #5) use agent provocateurs to fuel the violence, in order to have an excuse to continue occupying Iraq<br
/> #6)can break into jails to release prisoners against the Iraqi&#8217;s governments wishes. (Remember when two British men where caught disguised as Arabs carrying explosives and weapons in their car? Their fellow British soldiers broke into the jail they were in and helped them to escape) see <a
href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&amp;code=20051015&amp;articleId=1089" rel="nofollow">http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&amp;code=20051015&amp;articleId=1089</a></p><p>The United States had helped Saddam Hussein into power and supported him strategically and financially, when he was committing his worst atrocities. The Iraqis have become scapegoats for U.S. foreign policy.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Patrick</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-103914</link> <dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:38:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-103914</guid> <description>Umm Ray...a lack of Christmas trees and nativity decorations being prominently displayed is not the major problem confronting Arab Christians. What would putting up a crucifix do for us? It is far more social discrimination from Muslims, not the government that&#039;s the problem.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm Ray&#8230;a lack of Christmas trees and nativity decorations being prominently displayed is not the major problem confronting Arab Christians. What would putting up a crucifix do for us? It is far more social discrimination from Muslims, not the government that&#8217;s the problem.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RandallJones</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-103062</link> <dc:creator>RandallJones</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:17:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-103062</guid> <description>The Christian Congolese have it worse.See http://zmagsite.zmag.org/JulAug2007/snow.html</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Christian Congolese have it worse.</p><p>See <a
href="http://zmagsite.zmag.org/JulAug2007/snow.html" rel="nofollow">http://zmagsite.zmag.org/JulAug2007/snow.html</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Malcolm Martinez &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The difference in life as you dream it and life as it is</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-102988</link> <dc:creator>Malcolm Martinez &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The difference in life as you dream it and life as it is</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:10:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-102988</guid> <description>[...] Arab Christians abandoned and patronized by everyone. [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Arab Christians abandoned and patronized by everyone. [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MyTwoCents</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-98794</link> <dc:creator>MyTwoCents</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 06:16:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-98794</guid> <description>That might have worked better if I&#039;d actually included the link, huh?&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0933511.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;us holidays&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That might have worked better if I&#8217;d actually included the link, huh?</p><p><a
href="http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0933511.html" rel="nofollow">us holidays</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MyTwoCents</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-98793</link> <dc:creator>MyTwoCents</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 06:12:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-98793</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;When am I going to see a Muslim holiday being nationalised in America or any Christian nation for that?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Christmas Day is the only religious
&lt;em&gt;Federal&lt;/em&gt; holiday in the US, but here&#039;s the list of recognized holidays. Some are secular, some Christian, some Jewish, four Muslim, etc.I&#039;m not sure what you mean by &quot;nationalized.&quot; For the ones above, you can take the day off work without penalty: the boss doesn&#039;t have to pay you, but he can&#039;t hold it against you. That&#039;s the legally required minimum: in practice I&#039;ve found employers to be really accommodating.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>When am I going to see a Muslim holiday being nationalised in America or any Christian nation for that?</p></blockquote><p>Christmas Day is the only religious<br
/> <em>Federal</em> holiday in the US, but here&#8217;s the list of recognized holidays. Some are secular, some Christian, some Jewish, four Muslim, etc.</p><p>I&#8217;m not sure what you mean by &#8220;nationalized.&#8221; For the ones above, you can take the day off work without penalty: the boss doesn&#8217;t have to pay you, but he can&#8217;t hold it against you. That&#8217;s the legally required minimum: in practice I&#8217;ve found employers to be really accommodating.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: limpia</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-98656</link> <dc:creator>limpia</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:00:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-98656</guid> <description>of course u are correct, Ray.and things appear to have gotten worse over the past ten years, just from reading about it in the media.Certainly, Doesnt look positive in Gaza, or Indonesia or Pakistan, or Bangladesh.or Saudi Arabia.
However, re North america it is different-
I think that if xmas trees are seen in public spaces in
Canada there would be menorahs- In nyc area if one symbol is shown, then, they all are. Oh and there is no alternate side of the street parking in nyc due to a muslim holiday, which was put in place due to the popukation and the fact that it is recognized as a fair thing to do.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>of course u are correct, Ray.and things appear to have gotten worse over the past ten years, just from reading about it in the media.Certainly, Doesnt look positive in Gaza, or Indonesia or Pakistan, or Bangladesh.or Saudi Arabia.<br
/> However, re North america it is different-<br
/> I think that if xmas trees are seen in public spaces in<br
/> Canada there would be menorahs- In nyc area if one symbol is shown, then, they all are. Oh and there is no alternate side of the street parking in nyc due to a muslim holiday, which was put in place due to the popukation and the fact that it is recognized as a fair thing to do.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Danny Haszard</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-98581</link> <dc:creator>Danny Haszard</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:43:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-98581</guid> <description>The core dogma of the Watchtower organization is that Jesus had his second coming &#039;invisibly&#039; in the year 1914.Their entire doctrinal superstructure is built on this falsehood. Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses door to door recruitment is by their own admission an ineffective tactic.
They have lost membership in all countries with major internet access because their false doctrines and harmful practices are exposed on the modern information superhighway.
There is good and valid reasons why there is such an outrage against the Watchtower for misleading millions of followers.Many have invested everything in the &#039;imminent&#039; apocalyptic promises of the Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses and have died broken and beaten.
Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses are a cult because they try to cut you off from others who do not have the same beliefs, including family. Yes,you can &#039;check out anytime you want but you can never leave&#039;,because they can and will hold your family hostage.
The Watchtower is a truly Orwellian world.The &#039;message&#039; is their false Gospel that Jesus had his second coming already in 1914.The problem with this,is it&#039;s not just a cute fairy tale, Jesus warned of the false prophets who would claim &quot;..look he is here in the wilderness,or see here he is at the temple&quot;&lt;strong&gt;The Watchtower&#039;s Gospel &quot;kingdom&quot; is a man-made &quot;different version&quot;.(Gal.1:8)&lt;/strong&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The core dogma of the Watchtower organization is that Jesus had his second coming &#8216;invisibly&#8217; in the year 1914.Their entire doctrinal superstructure is built on this falsehood. Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses door to door recruitment is by their own admission an ineffective tactic.</p><p> They have lost membership in all countries with major internet access because their false doctrines and harmful practices are exposed on the modern information superhighway.</p><p>There is good and valid reasons why there is such an outrage against the Watchtower for misleading millions of followers.Many have invested everything in the &#8216;imminent&#8217; apocalyptic promises of the Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses and have died broken and beaten.</p><p> Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses are a cult because they try to cut you off from others who do not have the same beliefs, including family. Yes,you can &#8216;check out anytime you want but you can never leave&#8217;,because they can and will hold your family hostage.<br
/> The Watchtower is a truly Orwellian world.</p><p>The &#8216;message&#8217; is their false Gospel that Jesus had his second coming already in 1914.The problem with this,is it&#8217;s not just a cute fairy tale, Jesus warned of the false prophets who would claim &#8220;..look he is here in the wilderness,or see here he is at the temple&#8221;</p><p><strong>The Watchtower&#8217;s Gospel &#8220;kingdom&#8221; is a man-made &#8220;different version&#8221;.(Gal.1:8)</strong></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jina</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-98580</link> <dc:creator>Jina</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:34:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-98580</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Do they put up Crucifixes in the main squares in places like Kuwait? Yemen? Pakistan? Should I list all of the Islamic Nations? &lt;/blockquote&gt;I am not seeing other religous symbols being put up in publich places in Canada. Aren&#039;t Western nations secular? Well from what I see seclar except when it comes to Christianity.&lt;blockquote&gt;Do they allow Nativity Scenes to be erected to honor Christian traditions in any of those Islamic countries?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Christmas is also a national holiday in Bangladesh and Indonesia even though Christans make a very tiny percentage of the population. When am I going to see a Muslim holiday being nationalised in America or any Christian nation for that?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Do they put up Crucifixes in the main squares in places like Kuwait? Yemen? Pakistan? Should I list all of the Islamic Nations?</p></blockquote><p>I am not seeing other religous symbols being put up in publich places in Canada. Aren&#8217;t Western nations secular? Well from what I see seclar except when it comes to Christianity.</p><blockquote><p>Do they allow Nativity Scenes to be erected to honor Christian traditions in any of those Islamic countries?</p></blockquote><p>Christmas is also a national holiday in Bangladesh and Indonesia even though Christans make a very tiny percentage of the population. When am I going to see a Muslim holiday being nationalised in America or any Christian nation for that?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Elinor (Iran)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-98578</link> <dc:creator>Elinor (Iran)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:30:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-98578</guid> <description>Ray,
Salam to all our Arab Christians inside MiddleEast and outside :)
I hope you have a beautiful new year. Marhaba and Merry Christmas Ray :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray,<br
/> Salam to all our Arab Christians inside MiddleEast and outside <img
src='http://www.mideastyouth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br
/> I hope you have a beautiful new year. Marhaba and Merry Christmas Ray <img
src='http://www.mideastyouth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jina</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-98547</link> <dc:creator>Jina</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 06:35:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-98547</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Americans are NOT resposible for arabs killing each other in Iraq, Dude.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Just because Americans aren&#039;t pulling the trigger does  not mean they are not killing.&lt;blockquote&gt;They were doing a fine job of that BEFORE Bush sent in the troops, and are still at it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;You have a short memory. All started way before Bush, it started when the West decided to play god with the rest of the world. It got worse when America funded and empowered the tyrants in Iraq. It got even worse when the same tyrants took a stand against the West.&lt;blockquote&gt;Quit blaming America. 9/11 started the ball, dude. And who was it hi-jacked those planes? It wasn’t irate Catholic nuns, Dude.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Sadly, ones again you have a really really short and narrow minded memory. 9/11 is the result of America meddling in the business of Middle Eastern countries and last time I checked, it was Saudi Arabia was the nation most of the 9/11 hijackers came from NOT Iraq. Was even one of them from Iraq? Why aren&#039;t I seeing Saudi Arabi being bombed? Give me a break dude...BTW... all start not when 9/11 happened, it started when Christians decided to take over the world.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Americans are NOT resposible for arabs killing each other in Iraq, Dude.</p></blockquote><p>Just because Americans aren&#8217;t pulling the trigger does  not mean they are not killing.</p><blockquote><p>They were doing a fine job of that BEFORE Bush sent in the troops, and are still at it.</p></blockquote><p>You have a short memory. All started way before Bush, it started when the West decided to play god with the rest of the world. It got worse when America funded and empowered the tyrants in Iraq. It got even worse when the same tyrants took a stand against the West.</p><blockquote><p>Quit blaming America. 9/11 started the ball, dude. And who was it hi-jacked those planes? It wasn’t irate Catholic nuns, Dude.</p></blockquote><p>Sadly, ones again you have a really really short and narrow minded memory. 9/11 is the result of America meddling in the business of Middle Eastern countries and last time I checked, it was Saudi Arabia was the nation most of the 9/11 hijackers came from NOT Iraq. Was even one of them from Iraq? Why aren&#8217;t I seeing Saudi Arabi being bombed? Give me a break dude&#8230;</p><p>BTW&#8230; all start not when 9/11 happened, it started when Christians decided to take over the world.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: R E Konrad</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-98537</link> <dc:creator>R E Konrad</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 05:51:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-98537</guid> <description>Yo Ray, ever hear of a pity pot?  You sure go on!  I used to live in Michigan(USA) and worked at Ford. There were guys from all over the world in there.  I knew guys from Yemen, Israel, Lebanon, Egypt, Syria, Palestine, Jordan, Iraq, Europe, Africa, Asia, India, Mexico, Greece, Turkey, South America, Russia, and all over the USA.  Dearborn, Michigan has the largest settlement of arabic people outside the middle east and was just around the corner.  I hunted deer with some arabic guys and learned what &quot;Kalal&quot; was.  Those guys were lots of fun, we laughed much together.  When I went to Allentown, PA for my Syrian pal&#039;s wedding, it was the first time I ever saw an Eastern Orthodox church or saw one of their ceremonies.  I&#039;ve been to &quot;haflis&quot; and learned to &quot;debki&quot;.  I had arabic guys at my wedding and taught them &quot;polka&quot;.  I didn&#039;t ever care what religion they were--the question was never a big deal.  I have many american friends that could be Catholic, Jews, Episcopals, Adventists, Baptists, Quakers,or whatever.  I really don&#039;t know, never inquired and don&#039;t much care.
What I do care about is: What are these friends like?  Do we laugh and play and work well together?  What commonality makes us friends?  Religion factor is senseless to me.  You and your Higher Power can handle that....it&#039;s not my business.
Growing up, I had fistfights with blacks, asians, arabs, whites and native americans.....so what?  That&#039;s growing up in America....played hockey and shot hoops with all those guys too.  Still have no idea where most of those guys went to church.
Americans are NOT resposible for arabs killing each other in Iraq, Dude.  They were doing a fine job of that BEFORE Bush sent in the troops, and are still at it.  Americans are trying to get them to QUIT.  They can&#039;t seem to get the hang of that.  Ever heard the term..&quot;One&#039;s own worst enemy&quot;?  They got that down. For every 1 insurgent the US kills, the &quot;factions&quot; kill 100s.  How nuts is that?  Americans helping badly wounded kids?  What&#039;s wrong with that?  Guess you think the Americans should just leave them to the mercy of whoever?
Quit blaming America.  9/11 started the ball, dude.  And who was it hi-jacked those planes?  It wasn&#039;t irate Catholic nuns, Dude.
There are rules in the Koran about Christians and Jews in Islamic countries, right?  Relax, the Sharia and those rules don&#039;t count in the USA.  You make or break yourself here.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo Ray, ever hear of a pity pot?  You sure go on!  I used to live in Michigan(USA) and worked at Ford. There were guys from all over the world in there.  I knew guys from Yemen, Israel, Lebanon, Egypt, Syria, Palestine, Jordan, Iraq, Europe, Africa, Asia, India, Mexico, Greece, Turkey, South America, Russia, and all over the USA.  Dearborn, Michigan has the largest settlement of arabic people outside the middle east and was just around the corner.  I hunted deer with some arabic guys and learned what &#8220;Kalal&#8221; was.  Those guys were lots of fun, we laughed much together.  When I went to Allentown, PA for my Syrian pal&#8217;s wedding, it was the first time I ever saw an Eastern Orthodox church or saw one of their ceremonies.  I&#8217;ve been to &#8220;haflis&#8221; and learned to &#8220;debki&#8221;.  I had arabic guys at my wedding and taught them &#8220;polka&#8221;.  I didn&#8217;t ever care what religion they were&#8211;the question was never a big deal.  I have many american friends that could be Catholic, Jews, Episcopals, Adventists, Baptists, Quakers,or whatever.  I really don&#8217;t know, never inquired and don&#8217;t much care.<br
/> What I do care about is: What are these friends like?  Do we laugh and play and work well together?  What commonality makes us friends?  Religion factor is senseless to me.  You and your Higher Power can handle that&#8230;.it&#8217;s not my business.<br
/> Growing up, I had fistfights with blacks, asians, arabs, whites and native americans&#8230;..so what?  That&#8217;s growing up in America&#8230;.played hockey and shot hoops with all those guys too.  Still have no idea where most of those guys went to church.<br
/> Americans are NOT resposible for arabs killing each other in Iraq, Dude.  They were doing a fine job of that BEFORE Bush sent in the troops, and are still at it.  Americans are trying to get them to QUIT.  They can&#8217;t seem to get the hang of that.  Ever heard the term..&#8221;One&#8217;s own worst enemy&#8221;?  They got that down. For every 1 insurgent the US kills, the &#8220;factions&#8221; kill 100s.  How nuts is that?  Americans helping badly wounded kids?  What&#8217;s wrong with that?  Guess you think the Americans should just leave them to the mercy of whoever?<br
/> Quit blaming America.  9/11 started the ball, dude.  And who was it hi-jacked those planes?  It wasn&#8217;t irate Catholic nuns, Dude.<br
/> There are rules in the Koran about Christians and Jews in Islamic countries, right?  Relax, the Sharia and those rules don&#8217;t count in the USA.  You make or break yourself here.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-98520</link> <dc:creator>David</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 04:11:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-98520</guid> <description>It is not unusual that one might say that you can&#039;t talk about Jesus with out sounding like a Jehovah&#039;s Witness because Jesus is the leader of Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses, and as history has shown if every body suddenly came to live like Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses, as taught to them by their leader, I dare say the explosive problems of the middle east, and indeed all the world, would fizzle out to nothing.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not unusual that one might say that you can&#8217;t talk about Jesus with out sounding like a Jehovah&#8217;s Witness because Jesus is the leader of Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses, and as history has shown if every body suddenly came to live like Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses, as taught to them by their leader, I dare say the explosive problems of the middle east, and indeed all the world, would fizzle out to nothing.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ray Hanania (Palestine/USA)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-98500</link> <dc:creator>Ray Hanania (Palestine/USA)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 02:20:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-98500</guid> <description>Hey Anon ... I am not sure where you are concerned about laws against Christian Arabs ... in Israel or in the Islamic World ... African Americans continue to face discrimination in the United States, yet there is not one law that orders that discrimination. Must it be a law, or just a practice? And, if you can&#039;t find one incident on your own, maybe you are not looking?Jesus can&#039;t you do your own work for a change? Just kidding. Of course, maybe you also missed the satire in the preceding message :)Merry ChristmaChanuKwanzaEid ...
Ray Hanania</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Anon &#8230; I am not sure where you are concerned about laws against Christian Arabs &#8230; in Israel or in the Islamic World &#8230; African Americans continue to face discrimination in the United States, yet there is not one law that orders that discrimination. Must it be a law, or just a practice? And, if you can&#8217;t find one incident on your own, maybe you are not looking?</p><p>Jesus can&#8217;t you do your own work for a change? Just kidding. Of course, maybe you also missed the satire in the preceding message <img
src='http://www.mideastyouth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>Merry ChristmaChanuKwanzaEid &#8230;<br
/> Ray Hanania</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: alan  london</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-98435</link> <dc:creator>alan  london</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:17:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-98435</guid> <description>Ray
That is a cool cool rant, right on man.
Luv and good wishes.
Alan</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray<br
/> That is a cool cool rant, right on man.<br
/> Luv and good wishes.<br
/> Alan</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: anon</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-98417</link> <dc:creator>anon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 19:19:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-98417</guid> <description>christians are not equal in many ways, but it&#039;s weird that you didn&#039;t mention a single law that discriminates against them or a single specific government--by name--or specific incident. that is kind of a meaningless call if you don&#039;t give specific items for action. i am not sure if you are entirely aware either that christianity is different in different places? why should somebody from the middle east know about tiny tim? you think arab christians in the arab world actually know or care about that story? i would hardly say that that is a christian tradition so much as it is an american or english one.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>christians are not equal in many ways, but it&#8217;s weird that you didn&#8217;t mention a single law that discriminates against them or a single specific government&#8211;by name&#8211;or specific incident. that is kind of a meaningless call if you don&#8217;t give specific items for action. i am not sure if you are entirely aware either that christianity is different in different places? why should somebody from the middle east know about tiny tim? you think arab christians in the arab world actually know or care about that story? i would hardly say that that is a christian tradition so much as it is an american or english one.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mira</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-98389</link> <dc:creator>Mira</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 15:49:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/12/25/arab-christians-abandoned-and-patronized-by-everyone/#comment-98389</guid> <description>Merry Christmas, Ray.  I loved your article.  I wish I could confidently claim that I speak on behalf of all Arab Muslims when I say: we are equals; we are one.  I wish ..</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merry Christmas, Ray.  I loved your article.  I wish I could confidently claim that I speak on behalf of all Arab Muslims when I say: we are equals; we are one.  I wish ..</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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