Comments on: Whose Offense? http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/ Promoting a fierce but respectful dialogue among the highly diverse youth of the Middle East Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:56:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: nachtwachehttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-118431 nachtwache Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:48:52 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-118431 Of course, violence and hate is tought at home, in mosques, on TV (in certain parts of the world) plus the carrot, paradise for faithful Muslims. We need more Imams like Zaid Shakir. The majority of people follow the crowd. There is nothing scarier than a mob, with all those heads, there's not one functioning brain among them. Muslims are not alone in passing on hatred, the feuds go back thousands of years, all over the world. Seeing ourselves as Adam's children is exactly what we all should do, one people, we all are equal and should look out for each other's good. Love thy neighbour, love others as you love yourselves, serve one another, do unto others.... Love is the only way to heal a hurting world. Will it happen? Not even families manage to live in peace. We each can only do our own part. It can make a big difference, I think of Mother Theresa, for one; many others have selflessly served the common good. Of course, violence and hate is tought at home, in mosques, on TV (in certain parts of the world) plus the carrot, paradise for faithful Muslims. We need more Imams like Zaid Shakir. The majority of people follow the crowd. There is nothing scarier than a mob, with all those heads, there’s not one functioning brain among them.
Muslims are not alone in passing on hatred, the feuds go back thousands of years, all over the world.
Seeing ourselves as Adam’s children is exactly what we all should do, one people, we all are equal and should look out for each other’s good. Love thy neighbour, love others as you love yourselves, serve one another, do unto others…. Love is the only way to heal a hurting world.
Will it happen? Not even families manage to live in peace. We each can only do our own part. It can make a big difference, I think of Mother Theresa, for one; many others have selflessly served the common good.

]]> By: Jessica M. (USA)http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-117653 Jessica M. (USA) Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:10:24 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-117653 "I bet half of the people attempting to blow things up don’t even understand what they’re doing it for."Then where do they get the idea to do so? Someone - or something - must be convincing them that violence is an appropriate response to a newspaper cartoon. “I bet half of the people attempting to blow things up don’t even understand what they’re doing it for.”

Then where do they get the idea to do so? Someone – or something – must be convincing them that violence is an appropriate response to a newspaper cartoon.

]]> By: Danialhttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-117617 Danial Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:13:01 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-117617 I must remind everyone that the Danes would not have republished the cartoons if it weren't for the 3 Muslims that were caught in a plot to kill one of the cartoonists. I must remind everyone that the Danes would not have republished the cartoons if it weren’t for the 3 Muslims that were caught in a plot to kill one of the cartoonists.

]]> By: eric/canadahttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-117392 eric/canada Wed, 20 Feb 2008 02:35:15 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-117392 just wondering why these particular expressions of the Prophet are such a big deal when movies like "Gabriel" and "Dogma" are out there, not to mention the whole Dante's Inferno thing... Are only the newly offensive, directly confrontational items being considered? I mean, there's just reams of completely nasty crap about the "Musselmen" from the last couple of centuries. I guess it's just the stuff that was produced after the West realized how much folks were going to be offended... just wondering why these particular expressions of the
Prophet are such a big deal when movies like “Gabriel” and “Dogma” are out there, not to mention the whole Dante’s Inferno thing…
Are only the newly offensive, directly confrontational items being considered? I mean, there’s just reams of completely nasty crap about the “Musselmen” from the last couple of centuries. I guess it’s just the stuff that was produced after the West realized how much folks were going to be offended…

]]> By: You Started It! : The Sudanese Thinkerhttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-117144 You Started It! : The Sudanese Thinker Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:33:54 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-117144 [...] is a very, very important and serious issue. Forget everything else. Even Kawthar [...] [...] is a very, very important and serious issue. Forget everything else. Even Kawthar [...]

]]> By: Esra'ahttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-117027 Esra'a Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:00:46 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-117027 What can I say? People need to get jobs. And lives. And a television or something. I seriously think these things come out of boredom rather than passion, and I bet half of the people attempting to blow things up don't even understand what they're doing it for.I think what's important about posts like Kawthar's is just reminding readers out there (especially those who are also just as violently offended, and I'm confident there's quite a few of those lurking around this place,) how ironic and stupid this whole thing has gotten. What can I say? People need to get jobs. And lives. And a television or something. I seriously think these things come out of boredom rather than passion, and I bet half of the people attempting to blow things up don’t even understand what they’re doing it for.

I think what’s important about posts like Kawthar’s is just reminding readers out there (especially those who are also just as violently offended, and I’m confident there’s quite a few of those lurking around this place,) how ironic and stupid this whole thing has gotten.

]]> By: Nadiahttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-117025 Nadia Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:50:21 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-117025 Yeah, I have, I just can't believe this is still going on. Yeah, I have, I just can’t believe this is still going on.

]]> By: Esra'ahttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-117017 Esra'a Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:15:35 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-117017 <blockquote>Also guys I can’t believe that we’re still talking about this.</blockquote> Aren't you keeping up with news?Like 17 Danish papers republished the cartoons again and it sparked a lot of violent reactions, a few places are being blown up right now and many Muslims are threatening against "worse consequences."So yes, of course we're still talking about this, it's relevant as ever and the situation is escalating as we speak.Kudos to Kawthar for bringing this up.

Also guys I can’t believe that we’re still talking about this.

Aren’t you keeping up with news?

Like 17 Danish papers republished the cartoons again and it sparked a lot of violent reactions, a few places are being blown up right now and many Muslims are threatening against “worse consequences.”

So yes, of course we’re still talking about this, it’s relevant as ever and the situation is escalating as we speak.

Kudos to Kawthar for bringing this up.

]]> By: Nadiahttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-117013 Nadia Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:04:02 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-117013 Also guys I can't believe that we're still talking about this. Also guys I can’t believe that we’re still talking about this.

]]> By: Nadiahttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-117012 Nadia Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:02:41 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-117012 <i>Demonizing an entire group is worse than drawing cartoons about a religious figure. </i> Yeah this. Though I also think that the second group are a bunch of douchebags. Demonizing an entire group is worse than drawing cartoons about a religious figure.
Yeah this.
Though I also think that the second group are a bunch of douchebags.

]]> By: Kawthar (UAE)http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-116791 Kawthar (UAE) Mon, 18 Feb 2008 05:35:28 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-116791 I believe you are right Spanky - it's not a valid comparison.Demonizing an entire group is worse than drawing cartoons about a religious figure.<blockquote> Kawthar, may i ask what your religion is? </blockquote>I'm a self-hating Muslim I believe you are right Spanky – it’s not a valid comparison.

Demonizing an entire group is worse than drawing cartoons about a religious figure.

Kawthar, may i ask what your religion is?

I’m a self-hating Muslim

]]> By: Sol (Morocco/UK)http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-116720 Sol (Morocco/UK) Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:34:13 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-116720 if only more imams sounded like this guy.. if only more imams sounded like this guy..

]]> By: Gila (Israel)http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-116683 Gila (Israel) Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:22:37 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-116683 Well said! (The Iman, not Spanky). :) Well said! (The Iman, not Spanky). :)

]]> By: Esra'ahttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-116622 Esra'a Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:15:42 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-116622 Spanky, I hope you learned your lesson. Any more racist, homophobic, insulting remarks will always pend moderation. <blockquote>MEY against censorship everywhere except in the comment section in their website…not even a joke?</blockquote> Just like any other website in the world, we have a comment policy - read it. It's simply our job to moderate trolls like you. This has nothing to do with censorship, and everything to do with standards. Your comment right now is just as absurd as advocating for freedom but then allowing thieves to rampage your house because you believe everyone is "free" to do so. Censorship is stopping you from starting your own blog and rambling there on your own, and then stopping people from looking at it. <strong>That</strong> is censorship. Not cleaning up trashy comment threads, the kind that we've let you start for so long. Get a clue before you embarrass yourself and whine about "censorship" again. If you troll, you get banned. End of discussion. Spanky, I hope you learned your lesson. Any more racist, homophobic, insulting remarks will always pend moderation.

MEY against censorship everywhere except in the comment section in their website…not even a joke?

Just like any other website in the world, we have a comment policy – read it. It’s simply our job to moderate trolls like you. This has nothing to do with censorship, and everything to do with standards. Your comment right now is just as absurd as advocating for freedom but then allowing thieves to rampage your house because you believe everyone is “free” to do so. Censorship is stopping you from starting your own blog and rambling there on your own, and then stopping people from looking at it. That is censorship. Not cleaning up trashy comment threads, the kind that we’ve let you start for so long. Get a clue before you embarrass yourself and whine about “censorship” again. If you troll, you get banned. End of discussion.

]]> By: Spankyhttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-116598 Spanky Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:32:50 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-116598 before i type this i pause for two seconds and pray that my comment will be posted directly and won't be pending awaiting moderation....got the joke? MEY against censorship everywhere except in the comment section in their website...not even a joke?anyway Kawthar, the message you try to get through her is simply pathetic. Muhammad is a prophet while the Jews are a race made of 13 million individuals, 6 million of them live in Israel and the rest - except a few - are strong supporters of Israel.if you want to make valid comparison make it between Arabs anti-Jews caricatures vs the Hollywood image of Arabs in movies.....and as far as i know no embassies were burned because Muslims were portrayed in a bad light in some Hollywood movieKawthar, may i ask what your religion is? or let me guess that.....hmmmm....you are a moderate liberal Muslim who believe in unconditional free speech...the old name of that religion was "i am an atheist but...shhhh...keep it a secret!" before i type this i pause for two seconds and pray that my comment will be posted directly and won’t be pending awaiting moderation….got the joke? MEY against censorship everywhere except in the comment section in their website…not even a joke?

anyway Kawthar, the message you try to get through her is simply pathetic.
Muhammad is a prophet while the Jews are a race made of 13 million individuals, 6 million of them live in Israel and the rest – except a few – are strong supporters of Israel.

if you want to make valid comparison make it between Arabs anti-Jews caricatures vs the Hollywood image of Arabs in movies…..and as far as i know no embassies were burned because Muslims were portrayed in a bad light in some Hollywood movie

Kawthar, may i ask what your religion is? or let me guess that…..hmmmm….you are a moderate liberal Muslim who believe in unconditional free speech…the old name of that religion was “i am an atheist but…shhhh…keep it a secret!”

]]> By: Simon Columbushttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-116595 Simon Columbus Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:30:47 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/02/17/whose-offense/#comment-116595 Hell yeah, these are wise words.As usual, no one will listen to them. Hell yeah, these are wise words.

As usual, no one will listen to them.

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