The man who had no weakpoint
Imad Mughnieh got killed; the man who, according to David Barkay (a former major in unit 504 of Israeli military intelligence who was in charge of Mughniyeh’s file), had “no weak points, no women, money, drugs – nothing” to endanger him.
I don’t know how he got trapped or who won the sum of US$25 million dedicated to his head (dead or alive) by FBI. Israel denies responsibility, though there are some evidences which suggest that this regime might have been a determinant to the attack, including the number of ‘Israel’s enemies’ killed by car bombing since Dagan was appointed to direct Mossad in 2002. Hizbollah vows to retaliate and promises ‘an open war’ if Israelis are eager to embrace this kind of war.
I wonder what would have been likely to happen if (late?) Sharon had been assassinated in New York with Hizbollah denying responsibility. Not so hard to imagine the consequences of such an event when we consider that Israel devastated a country in response to so-called kidnapping of two of her soldiers by a movement which fights a legally-defined occupation, whatever the intentions of that group.
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First of all, if Hizbollah were responsible, they would never miss out on an opportunity to take credit.
Second, there were plenty of parties that wanted Mughniyeh dead. Sure, it could be Israel. It could also be Argentina, the United States, or even (as many are claiming) Syria, Iran, Egypt or Hezbollah itself. This was not a popular guy. It is convenient to blame Israel, but when this blame could result in the death of thousands on both sides–rather irresponsible. You like war so much? No problem–have one of your own, in your own country, and killing your own people. If you are interested in what this feels like, I invite you to check out the following joint Israeli-Palestinean blog http://gaza-sderot.blogspot.com/
Finally–I was not aware that we were occupying Lebanon. Border dispute over Sheba Farms? Yes. Occupation et.al, no. For that matter, for all that I know that the duly elected Lebanese government does not particularly like Israel, I was not aware that the Lebanese government felt that Lebanon was an occupied area, and had decided to declare war(and thus put its citizens at risk). I thought it was a rogue terrorist organization, which has effectively taken over Southern Lebanon, who decided to act according to its own agenda. Or rather, that of Syria and Iran.
Could you please clarify your statement?
First of all, in comparison of two cases (Assassination of Mughnieh vs. Sharon), one could argue that ‘plenty of parties’ would want Sharon dead as well, of which Hizbollah is only one.
Second, Saddam attacked Iran and occupied part of it, and called it ‘border dispute.’ Aggressors very often do the same. And probably Golan is another border dispute. Moreover, if there is any border dispute, it is between Syria and Lebanon; what’s the role of Israel there? Peace keeper?
Third, it is better to judge people upon their deeds, not their intentions; for the latter is likely to lead to conspiracy theories. Let’s forget Hizbollah for a while; what if there were an indigenous, military movement in south Lebanon fighting Israel?
Fourth, ‘Terrorism’ is not well defined. Terrorism might be a true description of some of activities attributed to Hizbollah in 20th century, as well as those of many other actors in Mideast. But labeling this group a terrorist one with regards to its operations in 21st century might be wrong.
Fifth, I’ve not forgotten that damn war with Iraq (or Saddam?) though I was more of a kid in that period of time. Stupid is the one who embraces war.
In respect to Sharon, you raised a scenario in which Hezbollah killed him, and then did not take responsibility. I pointed out that this was unlikely. If Hezbollah were responsible, not only would they be taking responsibility, but their supporters would be celebrating…just as happens now in the West Bank or Gaza right after some brave “militant” manages to blow up yet another coffee shop or shopping mall.
The Golan was taken from Syria in the 1967 war. Shebaa Farms (about 22 square km, is part of the Golan Heights and was also taken during the 1967 War. Based on what I know about the 1967 war and the circumstances leading up to it, I would not be quick to label Israel as an agressor. The main dispute here is between Israel and Syria, and not Israel and Lebanon. However, Syria prefers to fight its battles by proxy–aka–a rogue military force in Lebanon, rather than going head to head with Israel.
As for an “indigeonous, military movement”, is your intent here the the Lebanese army, the military arm of the duly elected Lebanese government? I have a major problem with the concept of a random group taking it upon themselves to embroil their country in a war. To use a relatively neutral example, if one of the many “militias” in the US were to start attacking Mexico or Canada, the proper US response would be to apologize profusely to Canada and Mexico, compensate for any damages and try those responsible in states with the dealth penalty. If your intent the Lebanese Army, I am no fan of war, but if the duly elected Lebanese government decides to go to war over Shebaa Farms, and accepts the attendent risks…I obviously would not like it, but I could hardly scream “terrorist” in that case.
I would much rather see the Lebanese government and the Israeli government come to a peace agreement, in which the Lebanese agree to take control over the southern part of their country and stop the attacks on us, and in which we give back the (&%#)!!! Shebaa Farms. And you know, in which each sides sticks to its side of the bargain and there is peace and mutual economic development and so on…
Finally, I brought up the question of encouraging war because your post posited that the assassination was done by Israel. My point is that, at this point, the “who” of the matter is still very much up in the air, but assumptions that it was Israel could lead to losses of life both in Israel and in Lebanon.
Gila,
You say that Syria and Iran have an influence on the agenda of Hezbullah and yet you also suggest that it may have been in fact Syria, Iran or even Hezbollah themselves who assassinated Mughnieh. I don’t then see the logic in that. Why would they kill a key player that is apparently working with them in their plan (to destroy Israel?)?
So if we are not allowed to make the assumption that Israel was involved, as you suggest, in case of possible violent retaliation, what of the possible retaliations against other possible perpetrators? Do the inhabitants of those places not matter as that of the inhabitants of Israel?
You are forgetting that there is a very strong possibility that Israel in fact did carry out this assassination. And you are also forgetting that they are very likely to deny participation in the attack, not only because of the damage Hezbollah would do but also the damage it would do to Israel’s image in the international community.
Gila,
I don’t know who had been behind the plan. Israel is an option (as Tamara truly pointed), as well as US. Syria should be considered a potential contributor as well. Even there are some complex scenarios which suggest that the whole thing happened by courtesy of Hizbollah itself; since little (if any) is known about internal dynamics of this group, however, this latter claim is less likely to be either proven or refuted in near future. But, by the way, if Mossad were the director, we should avoid telling so for it might lead to a war? Please.
And about the ‘neutral’ comparison you made. That is everything but neutral. Who invaded Lebanon? Who refused withdrawal despite several UN Security Council resolutions asking for it? Who, in its very essence, caused a phenomenon like Hizbollah to happen?
On the other hand, why the occupier (if Shebaa bears a background of ‘border dispute’, south Lebanon was Lebanon with no dispute) finally decided to leave the place? Due to its respect for international law? Or probably due to US pressures?
Finally, I used to think of Shebaa as well as remaining Lebanese prisoners as pretexts that Hizbollah exploits to justify its existence. Then, I had to wonder why Israel seemed less likely to leave Shebaa and free the rest of Lebanese prisoners? Now, I think that Hizbollah is the pretext exploited by Israel, i.e. Israel needs Hizbollah to justify some of its acts.
“If Mossad were the director, we should avoid saying so…”? No, But then, we do not know who the director was. Your original article, for all intents and purposes, does assume that Israel is responsible. I mean, you did not say “suppose George Bush was assasinated” or “suppose some Syrian biggie was assasinated” (even though Syria is widely considered to have been responsible for the assasination of various Lebanese political leaders). You assumed that, of course, Israel was behind it. Assumptions can be dangerous.
One of the things that seem to point to an inside job is that the area in which he was killed is incredibly secure.
In respect to Hizbollah’s prisoners, one of the key people they are demanding is a Samir Kuntar, who broke into the apartment of the Haran family in the night, took the father and his 4 year old daughter down to the beach murdered the father in front of his daughter and then beat the child’s head in with a rifle butt.
The Israeli public is not particularly interested in seeing this guy walk.
My understanding (which may or may not be accurate–I can research it more if anyone is interested), is that the 2004 prisoner exchange was supposed to have a second phase in which Kuntar would be released in exchange for solid information on the fate of Ron Arad, who has been missing since 1986.The information was not received and the swap was not completed.
In respect to the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in the 1980′s–was that not in response to ongoing rocket fire from Southern Lebanon on Northern Israel? In any event, we did withdraw. However much our presence may have been a pretext for violent acts then, I am not clear as to how it is relevant now. The last war was started when Hizbollah bombed us, and not the other way around.
As for Hizbollah being the pretext exploited by Israel, could you please clarify your statement? (I ask this seriously, and not to be snide). What current acts are you referring to? Please bear in mind that Hizbollah has made no secret of its intent to renew operations against us in the future, nor of its current renewal of its arsenals.
And (again), Hizbollah is an independent military force (will use that in place of terrorists in order to keep the conversation from getting caught on semantic snags) operating within a sovereign country, using that soveriegn country as a basis for its military activities, all without the mandate of said sovereign country. Where is Lebanon in all this?
To be perfectly honest, I really do not expect for Israel and her neighbors to become lovey-dovey friends. There is far too much bad blood on both sides. But I would settle for quiet, peaceful, subdued loathing. You know, we all hate each other, but we also don’t actually break out the weapons. Like we have with Jordan and Egypt. Hey, it is not perfect, but at least we are not actually killing each other. And once the killing stops, there is always the hope that, in about, oh, twenty generations, feelings will have cooled enough to actually have a shot at a warmer peace.
I must say, for all that we disagree, it is nice to actually have a forum where these matters can be discussed respectfully. Refreshing! This would be a nice point to say “thank you” to whomever is responsible for setting up this forum.
Any cognazant person who steps into the arena of war already counts themself as dead. Warriors in many cultures believe this. The blame, or credit, for killing Mughnieh will probably be revealed at some time when the drama of the revelation will benifit the killer. The arguement for the Israelis is strongest because the collateral damage was so limited. Others, even the US tend to be much sloppier in their killings, but this one was almost “surgical” and emotionless. Hezbulla and whoever will use it as a propaganda/chest thumping opportunity, that is assured. If for no other reason, if hezbulla, iran or syria whacked this mook, they might have done it as a recruitment ploy. Mughnieh may have outlived his usefullnes or became an irritant to his cronies. This would easily have been an opportunity to “kill two birds with one stone”. Remember, these guys are REALLY COLD.
Gila:
1st, I knew Kuntar and the event you mentioned about him except the details of that event. An Iranian response to such a thing (the cruel murder of that 4-year-old girl) would never be anything less than many times of stoning to death.
2nd, I hope that Israel releases the rest of the prisoners, evacuates occupied territories, Hizbollah ends up a political group, a Palestinian state comes into existence, somebody reveals the fate of Ron Arad and Imam Musa Sadr, Ahmadinejad gets dismissed, all the things go fine, no children dies out of hanger anymore… too good to happen. I know.
3rd,
A false presumption.
4th, why I think ‘Israeli administration uses Hizbollah as a pretext’ needs a bit more explanation. And tomorrow I should participate in entrance exam of public universities for masters programs. Let me elaborate it later.
5th, I participate in these forums for I want to get a better understanding of the other sides, whether they are Israelis or Bahais or else. I know that the truth is far away from the picture that the over-biased media portrays here, in Iran. And the same might be applied to what the main stream media portrays for you, there, in Israel.
Good luck on the exams!
Hi Mohammad,
How was your exam dude?
Mine was awesome! god bless all!
the major I chose for masters was English Translation, and this year I tried to evaluate my general skills. then, I didnt try to read main references of Translation Theory, though I expect to score over 90% in general english and about 50% in Translation Theory. what did you choose as your master’s major? Philosophy?
I like philosophy and maybe someday I choose it, but not yet!
I tried to participate for some kind of physiology! But, I’m not hopeful!
Dude, translation theory, shmeery, you write and express yourself in English better than some native speakers I know.
PeacefulVanguard:
i) Thanks. “Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder”, I believe.
ii) I began it, translation, for I needed some money. after a while, it turned to be one of my greatest joys. Alhamdu-lelah (all the thanks should be offered to Allah).
iii) translation theory is full of details which brings about an academic pleasure; that is not that tough, I feel.
Mohammad
Translation is hard Indeed
WHat kind of text you translate?
I run one of the most customer-centric businesses in this country
more than 90% of my works I get through my site (trans 10) are English-to-Persian translations. and most of English-to-Persian ones are the papers these lazy students bring to me to translate on their behalf. these papers cover a wide range of topics, from Wood Deterioration (the last one I got last night), to Global Communications (2 chapters of a famous reference written by an american professor), to Monalisa Spectography, to … in addition to ‘lazy students’, there are some other categories as well including those who need some material for their respective sites; for example hundreds of pages were done for http://www.ninisite.com (a site about pregnancy and kids, which gathers most of its source materials from http://www.babycenter.com).
Persian-to-English translation covers about 10% of the work, though I find myself more of a beginner to-English translator.
what is wrong with you people can’t you see the obvious
Syria killed Imad by planting a BOMB in his car (typical syrian strategy) that is why his fled damascus to iran and accused the syrian regime of killing her husband.
also syria refused iranian help with the investigation which is a clear sign that they are hiding something…
think about it
Alain, do you feel very sorry when some one who has planted bombs that has killed innocent people is finally killed by a group of other people , Syrian or non-Syrian. Right? I do not expect roses when I deal with Guns that kill the innocent. Should I ?
Elinor, you are absolutely correct. I shouldn’t expect roses when i deal with fire arms BUT at the same i should at least expect a helping hand from my allies and not a knife in my back when i’m not looking.
what i’m saying is that at least israel doesn’t claim to be my friend whereas syria under the banner of brotherhood sucked the life out of my country and killed dozens of its leaders and citizens including Imad.
Alain.
In essence, our countries should not be enemies, because undermining one another in this tiny region means self destruction alongside. Unless we adopt the shoot in ones own foot attitude, which perhaps the regimes of many countries around us have adopted, in a way they shoot the nation in the leg and hide their own. man I wish we had regime who Cared. If kindergartens ruled in the region, we had a better state of affairs.
Elinor.
finally someone talking sense, but again you misunderstood what i’m saying.
what i’m saying IS Bashar al assad is not fit to rule a circus, he thinks that lebanon is a part of syria and doesn’t even hide that notion. that is why our countries have no diplomatic relations and did you know that he stole over eight billion dollars from lebanon, he caused the bankruptcy of a lebaneese bank
(bank al madina) which has never happened before in lebanon .once a syrian company owned by the state (bashar al assad) got paid to deliver syrian natural gaz to lebanon and didn’t, even after getting paid. and what’s worse is that he doesn’t use this money to help his people or his countrey’s economy. they don’t even have a stock market.
did you know that while israel holds one lebaneese prisoner who by way received a PHD while in prison Syria kidnaped hundreds of lebaneese and tortered them
and to this day refuses to let them go.
our countreys should not be ennemies but what i’m saying is Bashar is Syrias ennemy, i don’t hate the syrian people on the contrary i think they are great
but extremely unfortunate like that poor syrian blogger who got detained just because he lightly criticized the syrian armed forces. if i were syrian Bashar would probably hang me, WHY? because he feels like an idiot not being able to do anything to israel so he takes it out on his own people…
ALain:
You mean Samir or else?
and a question plz: I want to know the idea of lebanese about Hizbollah and Nasrallah, and you can help me as an insider in this case. thanks in advance.
I need to go to jail in Israel. I want a PHD as well!
Wow–if I go to jail I can go for a PhD? Damn–enough of this law-abiding citizen routine. Gonna go out and rob me a gas station right now!
Alain–I second Mohammed’s question. Could you give us a picture of how Lebanese look at Hizbollah and Nasrallah?
Alain,
I think I understand what you mean. I am not sure if I would replace the authorities in my country and you would replace the authorities in your country, that would change the state of the affaits much. It would een become worse than what it is right now. Just one person cannot change a system. A system should be mended, even destructed and reconstructed, it is a very long term process that people of today would not care to contribute to that for the sake of tomorrow.
Some times my husband says we deserve what we have, he some times says if the authorities do not care for us, that’s because we don’t care for one another, and not for our neighbor. I don’t know…
Gila
I mean I need too many PHDS 
you wanna rob a gaz station, yalla , lets go together 
I want a PHD Hebrew and Arabic language and another one on the social, religious, and cultural similarities of the people living in the region, and another PHD on how we can create peacefulness in the region
In respect to deserving the government we have–here it is even worse, in a way. We have a completely free democracy, freedom of speech, freedom to organize…and people do not bother to vote! They bitch and moan about the government, about the policies, about problems here, and then on election day, instead of doing something, they sit on their backsides and say “all politicians are the same”, instead of saying “let us use this freedom to do something constructive”. Like to vote the corrupt guys out of office.
This is especially frustrating when one considers that, in many of our neighboring countries, people are literally risking their lives for the rights we take for granted or do not even use.
So yes, I suppose you could say that we deserve the nitwits.
Alrighty then–meet at the gas station, at about 10′ish?
A PhD is definitely in order, but I want to get one in how to get people to think.
Gila:
at first sight, it seems that our regimes, despite all inherent differences, are somehow complementary; your people “dont bother to vote’, my people not only bother to vote but also wait in long rows for even hours in a snowy day to vote! on the other hand we lack suitable democratic infrastructure to exploit this precious eagerness of commons so as to make a progress.
but I feel that the advent of democracy marks the end point of people’s eagerness to actively participate in politics (if there had been any). I was watching Russia Today’s sattelite channel the other night, and it was Paul Couteaux, a french member of EU parliament, who said: “French President… had been in a way elected by media far before he was elected by french people. its a problem of democracy everywhere.” it seems that Media takes the leadership when democracy is about to appear.
why this “damn, let them do it, thats not up to us” appears in all systems, whether authoritarian or democratic?
Mohammad,
Not all our people involved in voting that way. Many do not vote at all. Many who are much greater in number do not vote at all, not because they don’t care, but as a reaction to the undemocratic way of selecting nominees. When he person in my mind would never be approved to stand as a nominess eligible for the campaing, why should I stand in the rows to vote?
Onemore thing, had you ever been bothered by the fact that your identification documents being stamped or not, after an election? For years people who had no intention of voting would vote to have that stamp on their id documents ” Shenasnameh”, that would mean perhaps keeping a job, applying for a loan, or some benefits, pr preventing some bad things that could happen to the person. Only people who have lived in communist countries have experienced things as such.
For that matter there are many who would vote, but they would vote for their son in law, Mickey Mouse, or just leave a blank sheet behind, the stamp thing works for some people.
I can sopt many many people who have3 never voted for any one after the fist years of revolution, the ones who were once more persuaded to vote by the atractive speeches of the reformists when society was ready for another revolution, but reforminsts persuaded the youth to go for a reform instead of a revolt, that worked and the reformist stepped into the officed backed by millions of votes, only to silence the youth movement and the striking students who voted. Non of what they promised happened.
Elinor:
I would agree with what you said less or more, but I think the point is that most of those who refuse to vote, “actively” refuse to vote, as you pointed out; and thats what makes a difference.
Very funny everyone hahahahahahahahahahahah
but i’ll answer all your questions.
1- i’m surprised you don’t know about Samir Quintar who was an illiterate and now has a PHD. if you want a phd too all you have to do is spend over forty years in israeli prison. i bet robing that station doesn’t seem like a good idea anymore.
2- unlike all of you i love my government and i think it’s great.
3- i think the governement of israel sucks and i’m surprised why all of you keep avoiding the issue of syria and its petty dictator. Are you afraid of the syrian secret service or what?
4- as for the most important question of all and i assure you that my views are shared by at least 65% of the lebanese.
I HATE HIZBOLLAH. why? because
1- they are prepared to sacrifice ten lebanese to kill one israeli and they are more than willing to destroy hundreds of lebanese homes to ruin one israeli home and they have.
2- they are more loyal to iran and syria than lebanon.
3- they want to transform lebanon into an islamic countrey which can never because lebanon belongs ( not entierly but first and formost) to the maronites who have being living in this spot of the world for over seventeen centuries.
4- they have stolen hundreds of millions of dollars from the lebanese people.
5- during their rein over the ministry of electricity enough money was spend to build 2 nuclear reactors and yet we have to pay over one billion dollars a year in electricity losses and we have power shortages every day.
6- the reason why the government has being unable to stop the assassinations is because hizbollah controls many territories called security squares where the government has no power, so an assassin can easily kill someone and run to one of these places.
7- for over a decade hizbollah kept christian leaders in prison and in exile because they wanted what’s best for lebanon.
8- they almost destroyed lebanon under the pretext of freeing Samir Quintar and never once mentioned the hundreds of lebanese prisoners behind syrian bars.
the list goes on and on and on ……………………………………….
one more thing the iranians should hate hizbollah too because while they are suffering economic difficulties their leaders are sending BILLIONS OF DOLARS to hizbollah and its allies.
In respect to the Israeli government, I suppose I should take issue but to be honest, most of the country is not particularly enamoured with our current selection either. So arguing with you on that…is there any point?
As for the PhD, golly, now that you put it that way, the PhD is not nearly as attractive. Right, so I stick with accounting then. Sorry Elinor, but 40 years of Israeli institutional food would be simply too much to bear (I presume it is not much better than Israeli hospital food, which I have tried, and loathed).
Thanks for giving an inside view on Hezbollah. Listen, I really will be satisfied with peaceful loathing, and really do not expect the Israelis and the Lebanese to become lovey-dovey any time soon….but it is nice to know that Hezbollah is not the hero of all the Lebanese. Sorry your country is getting so terribly screwed by them.
Actually, it would be nice if there were peace. I have heard that Lebanon is gorgeous–would love to visit. Maybe someday….
Gila
i would love for you to see lebanon, it is a work of art,also there is one place in israel that i would love to visit.
as for hizbollah, please don’t forget that they are screwing your countrey as well.
Oh–where do you want to visit here? If I am there, I can take some photos and send them.
As for Hizbollah, yeah well, am kind of aware of that here. Apparently they are preparing for Round Three–I suspect that this one will feature some attacks on my home-town (Tel Aviv). Because, you know, they really will have to up the ante to justify the war. And what better way to do it than blowing up yours truly?
Sigh….
Alain,
I mean why should I open a prison? 
We are all prisoners of our situation, and I still need a PHD 
Me scared of Syrian intelligence? No Syrian intelligence scared of me
I am not scared of intelligence, Not even our own intelligence which stinks even more
I am not after criticizing governments. People at any moment can just kick them out of position, just by not listening to them. Right?
I agree with you about Hizbollah. It is not nationalism to take the lives of civilians for granted, it is not even being brave. It is being very selfish, very self destructive. We have them here as well in our country, they can only shout and give elaborate speeches while leaning back on the weapons, no weapons in the hand, you wouldn’t recognize them, they would even look different, you would feel sorry for them ( I don’t). Their kids are the fist people who dislike them.
Things willchange in Middle East and we will learn to live side by side productively, in a positive manner. Who wants to bet on that? ( me does).
Gila
What I was saying about Israel prisons, that was like amazement, because I cannot recall any one out of our jails with a PHD in his/her hand. In this way a prisoner’s life is not a total waste, he gains some thig that the world outside jial has denied, and a new kind of life starts from the time the prisoner steps out.
If I open a prison I will open a university in the prison as well
Gila,
I am a noahide, we believe in Torah but we are non Jews.
I like to visit Kotel
Alain,
and your cedars 
They are gracious, I wish we could have people as big as them spreading their blissful shade over the whole Middle East 
I like to visit Nabi Shith, he is a very tall prophet
Gila. if you are not kidding.
it would mean a lot to me if you sent me photos from mount calvary and the road jesus christ crossed holding the cross.
i know i sound like a religious freak but i’ve always wanted to visit the holly land.
Oh and plz take care of yourself i’d hate it if hizbollah rockets blew your house however i’d also hate getting blown up by israeli missiles.
do you think i could shield myself by writing i hate hizbollah on the roof?
don’t answer that!
Elinor.
there is realy nothing stoping you from coming to lebanon (other than the fact that war could erupt at any moment) to see our cedars, in fact
if you come now you can even practice skiing at the same time it’s cool actually it’s very cold but you know what i mean.
about the government of syria, well i can tell people have tried overthrowing the current regime democraticaly, they are all in jail right now being tortured and reeducated. the syrian people deserve better…
Alain and Gila,
sigh we have very friendly people in the Mideast and it is a pity we go for war.
I hope no more wars take place in your beautiful regions. I am looking forward to visiting both your countries, with my kids, once day
Elinor:
Noahide? wow… I had never heard of it. how many people do stick to this religion in Iran?
Mohammad,
It is not a religion, it is a movement. A movement charged by the spirituality of Torah.
Any one who observes the 7 laws that Noah asked his people to follow is a noahide. The 7 laws are mentioned in the book of Genesis, and they are the essence of most monotheistic religons and beliefs. You can find many people in the world who believe in the 7 laws. You want a Persian translation to the message to the world?
Here you will read the message of the movement to the world and you will find the link to the Persian translation as well.
I am not very sure about the number of followers of Noah in Iran, but you can find many Noahides outside Iran, including Iranian or Persian speaking noahides from around the world. There are even Palestinian Noahides, You can find many in USA. It is spreading, because the message is very beautiful and applicable to the essential beliefs of many nations.
This website i told you gives you enough information about the movement. It had been my return to spirituality, when I was much repelled by the present state of spirituality in our country. This helped me to pull myself together and feel i can still be in love with my creator, despite all the lies I hear in his name, despite all the ones who defile the name of spirituality in the name of G-d and Religion, the ones who push us out of the shelter of belief, because of their claim that they represent all the good things, and they do not.