Comments on: You’re Gonna Hate Me For This

By: Unimpressed

Unimpressed — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:05:10 +0000

Typical American criminality. These guys are know for their inability to take on anyone one on one. Brave guy throwing a puppy down like that. Sick twisted bastards.

By: Esra'a

Esra'a — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:17:13 +0000

Yup. It’s trolling. Those people at Jihad Watch need to put their commenters in a cage.

By: Jina

Jina — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:12:04 +0000

I think now this thing can be considered spam, no?

By: antishock8

antishock8 — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:11:19 +0000

“For Islam, “human rights” – individual “rights” – do not exist. For Muslims, there is only obedience, or disobedience. Muslims know that we, as individuals, only have duties and responsibilities – toward Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala; toward those who are the representatives of Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala on Earth (such as a Khalifah); toward our brothers and sisters; toward upholding Adab Al-Islam in our relations with non-Muslims.”

No, thanks. Never. See you on the battlefield…

By: antishock8

antishock8 — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:10:15 +0000

“What the kuffar call “human rights” are a manifestation of their Ignorance and their arrogance, for the basis for this concept, this idea, is the belief that human beings have these “rights”, by their very nature, and that manufactured laws, governments, agencies and organizations – or “our leaders” – can “give” us these rights, or embody them, or protect them. In addition, this kaffir concept implies that we, as individuals, have or should have a “duty” to “obey” such laws, such governments, organizations, and such leaders since they embody or protect these “rights”. However, according to Deen Al-Islam, this amounts to kufr: to insolence, to overstepping the bounds which Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala has set for us. It is a denial of our Muslim nature and a denial of the truth of Tawheed.”

By: Jina

Jina — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:07:30 +0000

antishock8, you do no that this website is not an Islamic website right?

By: antishock8

antishock8 — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:07:14 +0000

” O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.”

By: antishock8

antishock8 — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:06:06 +0000

Please stop being democraphobic. It’s hurtful. Do you believe Muslims and non-Muslims should be equal in every aspect of society?

“As a Muslim I have all rights as long as I follow the Quran. As a kaffir you have no rights – strictly speaking- at all as you reject the Quran , Allah’s masterpiece . It is your fault , your self-imposed illegality, kaffir, if something bad happens to you then.”

By: Jina

Jina — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:05:15 +0000

Cute… in Darfur, Muslims are also getting slaughtered also…

Cute… I think he/she/it is going to say next that nazism is another term for “telling the truth”

By: Esra'a

Esra'a — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:56:28 +0000

Is that last comment of yours supposed to be revolutionary or something?

Many Muslims themselves have been arguing that for decades. Somehow you missed that because you were too busy watching the excessively racist MEMRI which was telling you otherwise.

By: antishock8

antishock8 — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:49:49 +0000

Islamophobia is just another term for “telling the truth”. Funny how any time anyone “tells the truth” he is “Islamophobic”, children.

Do NOT be deceived by people who oppress others. Freedom from the jizya! Freedom of religion! No more honor killings! No more terrorism! Open up ALL Muslim lands to free and OPEN church worship. Stop the Muslim slaughters of Paganists and Christians in Darfur! Stop Wahabbism and Salifism!

Reform Islam! No more violence in the name of Islam. No more from the Religion of Fear:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=343_1206967836

By: Esra'a

Esra'a — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:36:16 +0000

That last comment is quite ill-informed and it’s hilarious that people consider MEMRI to be a level-headed and reliable source.

Wake up and smell the coffee, children. Islamophobia is the brutal anti-Semiticism of these past few decades. You’re not being any less violent and hateful than the people you hate.

By: antishock8

antishock8 — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:05:16 +0000

Arab racism and Islamic supremicists continue to lie and distort the historical record sending scores of their own sons and daughters to death in a jihad based on lies and half-truths. What a shame that multiple generations are given over to hate, crime, murder, and deceit… This is just yet another piece of the never-ending Muslim gameplan called the “grievance theater”. Push push push, murder murder murder, and when another society or civilization pushes back then act like a victim.

At least we, for all of our faults, still believe in choice. The lot of a non-believer in the Muslim paradigm is:

1) Pay a jizya in order to exist.

2) Submit and become a Muslim.

3) Become a slave.

4) Be murdered.

Remember, according to Muslims non-Muslims are never considered innocent, and are always “guilty” for denying Allah. I would recommend very strongly that people take a moment to read:

http://www.strategycenter.net/docLib/20080107_Coughlin_ExtremistJihad.pdf
http://www.investigativeproject.org/
http://www.globalpolitician.com/24345-islamism-multiculturalism-european-immigration
http://www.memri.org

That’s just for starters. Long live freedom. Long live democracy. Long live equality for all men, all women, homosexuals, all creeds, all faiths, and for those who don’t believe.

By: Becky

Becky — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:16:50 +0000

I do clearly understand where you are coming from. Americans are making a big deal out of the killing of the puppy. I do say how do you blame them though??? That was just wrong…..But just as the killings in Iraq or where ever is aslo wrong. But the reason Americans are making such a big deal out of the dog killing is because EVERYONE can relate to a dog…to be truthfull we can not relate to those that are being killed. But my question is are we wrong for not being as sympathetic about a dog to a person we dont know??? I actually say no we are not…when people die that I don’t know I have feel bad about it but I don’t know them so how can I make a big deal out of it…but dogs are just to precious:)

By: Caroline and Liz

Caroline and Liz — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:14:08 +0000

I think that over the course of the war, with all the news and media coverage, we are becoming desensitized do the deaths of innocent people. We hear about it everyday. It’s almost like background noise now. Then all the sudden the headline “American soldier throws puppy over a cliff” pops up. Can you really blame anyone for being taken by surprise? We’ll admit that, at first, we were appalled by what took place, only because it is such an unusual update to hear about during a war. However, D.B.’s first post was eye-opening. I never even thought to compare it to how many innocent people are killed everyday. It makes this puppy incident seem almost comical in comparison to the tragedies that result to HUMAN BEINGS everyday.
However, as an American, it is extremely disappointing to be represented by a soldier that would commit such a ridiculous act in the middle of a war. In a war, innocent people will die. It’s a fact of life, but to throw a puppy off of a cliff for the heck of it? What is even the point? That is why there has been such a reaction from Americans over this, not because we value a puppy over people.
The oddity of this “media buzz” is the fact that it has drawn attention of many people. But it would be insane for someone to value a dog more so than a precious human being. If there was a baby in place of the dog, there would have been a much larger outrage. Either way, there is a war going on, and although we don’t like to accept it: people will die.
Our media usually covers up the harsh and brutal killings in Iraq, and we usually don’t get the entire story. We should care more, and our ignorance shows, but that is all that the media provides its viewers with. We want to be upset over these deaths and people, but it’s so hard to relate; we don’t live there and know the people personally. Although, we do feel some ounce of sympathy towards the family that will have to cope with the loss of their loved ones. We are not purposely being heartless Americans, it has to do with the society that we are a part of and the media coverage we are exposed to.

By: Jessica K.

Jessica K. — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:11:36 +0000

I think that it is wrong for everyone to make such a big deal over this marine throwing a puppy over a cliff. There are people dying everyday, and people should make a bigger deal about women and children dying, especially a pregnant woman. Even though it was wrong that the marine threw the dog, it is not nearly as big of a deal as killing inocent people. It is ridiculous the publicity that this dog is getting over human beings.

By: Haley V. & Lauren M.

Haley V. & Lauren M. — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:25:14 +0000

D.B.:

Regardless of the victim, violence is still violence. It cannot be justified, no matter what the context is. Sure, the difference between a dog and a human is immense, but both are living, breathing animals. You brought up an innocent pregnant woman and her unborn child being killed, as well as 6 innocent Somalian civilians, and said that none of these people deserved to die, I agree with you on that. However, that dog was just as innocent as the rest of them, if anything it may have been more innocent than some of those people. Those people have voices, they have choices. How do you know that those people haven’t performed heinous crimes or killed people themselves? Then they may not be so innocent. Either way, no one deserves to be killed.

Also, you included a stereotype within your piece, saying:

“…while Americans are crying and sending death threats to the Marine who threw the dog, people in the Middle East will be saying “so what!” and you all will think they are a bunch of heartless barbarians, because whats a puppy compared to their sisters, cousins and children?”

It is quite unfair of you to make such an assumption, because you are not acquainted with every single American. It would have been okay to make such a statement, had you added a “most” or “many” in front of Americans. What gives you the right to place stereotypes on American people, but it is NOT okay for us to place stereotypes on the people of the Middle East? I don’t believe that it’s right to assume things about any people as a whole, and I refuse to condone or encourage this act.

In addition, I don’t think it was right of you to call the girl “emo” for crying. Do I agree that crying about a dog dying that you probably didn’t know is a little unnecessary? Yes, but some people may react in that way, and no one has the right to judge a person’s reaction.

Basically, what the Marine did was wrong, no matter how you twist it. Not every single American is bawling their eyes out about the situation, but many people do find it to be a wrongful act. Lastly, if a girl’s going to cry about a dog, let her be. She’s not hurting anyone…she’s just an innocent civilian.

By: Ethan and Ashley

Ethan and Ashley — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:23:02 +0000

It was horrible that a solider would do that for no reason. Also it’s a war and innocent people are going to die. Not on purpose though. And if a soldier is killing people for no reason than yes there should be an investigation. Killing period is horrible and should be mourned.

But also, what if the video was a fake. Its been told that the dog was already dead and the yelping from the dog was edited in. Its judgemental to say that the american public dosent care about the killing of the arab public. It seems to me that the non-american public will only take the radical news that get big due to people thinking there crazy, and taking that as a reliable source. A video of a girl on you tube crying becase of a dog, is not how much of americans feel about dogs. I personally feel more sympathetic towards the the innocent suvillanes being killed in the middle east. But again we have to remember were at war. Certain people cannot be trusted. A pregnant woman could have looked like a suicide bomber. We just dont know.

By: Chelsea

Chelsea — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:34:47 +0000

I really don’t agree with this whole situation. The people that think its fake, it may be but, the fact that people still do that cruel stuff to puppies (or animals in general) like for example: throwing them off cliffs because they think the dog is a threat! thats the most heartless thing I have ever heard.

I do agree with the person above me.
This soldier did a very heartless thing and he should be punished for it.
But, no one will do so. People like this get away with it, and believe it or not… it will always be that way.

By: On looker

On looker — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:43:48 +0000

I could go into the story of how the puppy was innocent, I could go on for days about how crulty of any kind is wrong, I could talk for hours about the war and how it should have been over along time ago, Yes innocent people have been dieing over there since this whole mess started, weman, children, Dogs, cats, yes and even innocent men. But is that really the piont. No it is not. The real piont of this whole story is the fact that a person could be to cruel and heartless to any living creature that posed him no treat at all and if allowed would ahve been a comfort to him.

I hate the fact that we are still at war over there, I hate the fact that these little boys are sent over there and feel manly by killing and innocent dog. I hate the fact that even though his family had nothing to do with the horrible thing he did that people are harassing a poor little old lady that did not even Know about the Video and she too is innocent.

Yes he should be punished for what he has done. Yes these thngs should not be allowed on sights that are so easy to view by our children. Yes the war will change people to monsters like it has done to this little boy that now feels like a man because he has killed. And yes any person who has gone after his family becaue of what he has done should also be punished.

Lets face it, no one will ever agree about this and no one will ever get punished for it. I think it is time to move on.

By: Mohammad Memarian (Iran)

Mohammad Memarian (Iran) — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 04:55:29 +0000

remebering that joke of George Bush wanting 1 million Iraqis and 1 french blonde dead; and all ask why you want that poor blonde dead… who cares about 1000000 (still counting) iraqis?

By: Stuart

Stuart — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:57:36 +0000

The reality is that people who are outraged over this stupid dog actually do value a puppy’s life more than the lives of human beings

I for one do not rate the life of this dog higher than that of a human, but that does not say I cannot be outraged by this sick act. This soldier is representing us, the west, and we expect a lot more than needless animal cruelty, if he can be identified he should be kicked out of the marines. Since watching that utube clip I have watched a few more, soldiers tormenting and gloating over a crippled dog, marines in hysterics after blowing up a dog, marines amusing themselves by throwing a grenade (or something) into a flock of sheep. These people are sick and need to be brought to justice!

By: D.B. Shobrawy

D.B. Shobrawy — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:38:23 +0000

Thank you Gila for that point, I wasn’t intentionally excluding Jewish victims. thanks

By: Gila (Israel)

Gila (Israel) — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:34:25 +0000

And the people being killed and wounded in Sderot and Ashkelon are Jewish, Muslim and Christian….

Or perhaps, if it is Hamas missiles launched at Israel, it is okay?

By: D.B. Shobrawy

D.B. Shobrawy — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:23:03 +0000

I’d like to understand how this turned into a religious debate? Everyone, I dont care what religion you are, I dont care if you worship the sun or if you have no religion at all.

Regardless of what religion you practice my point is still the same, there are very serious death’s, murders, genocides, etc. going on around the world, some of which occurred the day off this puppy incident and some of which occurred the day before as noted in the original article. Everyone needs to calm down here. All anyone is saying is that, mistreatment of an animal is wrong, agreed but why dont we get as angry when mistreatment of human beings occur.

People have responded so quickly to their gut reaction regarding this puppy that when i ask them, “what about the 22 day old baby killed in Gaza”? They give me some nonsense about the dog being more innocent. Well i understand that human beings are not perfect creatures but if you have trouble seeing a newborn baby is a more valuable life than a puppy, well I’m sorry something is really wrong with you.

That value of life is regardless of religion or race or region. Death of human beings is the same, its awful and we have all become desensitized to it. If thats the case, I dont hold that against you. All this post is asking you to do is stop for a second and say, “why arent people as upset about the death of a human being as they are over this puppy?” This is about valuing life, I would not be bothered if the outrage over human loss was equal to the outrage over this dog. Thats not the case however, the reaction demonstrates to us all that the dog is valued over people. I think thats sad.

Oh and as far as religion goes everyone this is not a muslim/christian issue so lets please not make it one. No one had to go and insult other peoples religions, if you have a score to settle this is not the post to do it on. Lets keep in mind that the people dying in Sudan are both Christian and Muslim, the people dying in Gaza are both Christian and Muslim as well as the people dying in Iraq are both Christian and Muslim. Also this site is religiously diverse as well so if you come here and think that this is some pro jihadist islam site you have greatly misunderstood our mission. We’ve been speaking out against terrorism and extremism since the sites inception so please be respectful and browse the site and our causes to better understand who you are addressing.