Comments on: Why adult sites do well in the Middle East http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/23/why-adult-sites-do-well-in-the-middle-east/ Thinking Ahead Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:46:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Sami, the beduin. http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/23/why-adult-sites-do-well-in-the-middle-east/#comment-27396 Sami, the beduin. Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:15:45 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/23/why-adult-sites-do-well-in-the-middle-east/#comment-27396 After a few days I received an email from an Israeli (probably Zionist) man named Shaul. This man mentioned that he is Mocia’s friend and he had read my “brilliant” story that mad him really hot. He explained that he is the director of an Israeli adult website (unlike in the West, this kind of sites are the best trap to recruit agents “collaborators” in our Holy Land) and that he would appreciate it if I can help him in addressing arab “onlookers” to promote his site among the arab browsers!!! And that he will appreciate it if I accept to help them for a regularly paid salary!!!!…. My answer was a big NO, that I write to amuse my “dirty” mind but not to spy on people and (or) use them to serve the Intelligent Agencies!!!! the full story @ ( Mocia, the Sexy Jewish Girl and Me ) http://samibedouin.wordpress.com/2009/07/14/mocia-the-tricky-jewish-girl-and-me/ After a few days I received an email from an Israeli (probably Zionist) man named Shaul. This man mentioned that he is Mocia’s friend and he had read my “brilliant” story that mad him really hot. He explained that he is the director of an Israeli adult website (unlike in the West, this kind of sites are the best trap to recruit agents “collaborators” in our Holy Land) and that he would appreciate it if I can help him in addressing arab “onlookers” to promote his site among the arab browsers!!! And that he will appreciate it if I accept to help them for a regularly paid salary!!!!…. My answer was a big NO, that I write to amuse my “dirty” mind but not to spy on people and (or) use them to serve the Intelligent Agencies!!!!

the full story @ ( Mocia, the Sexy Jewish Girl and Me )

http://samibedouin.wordpress.com/2009/07/14/mocia-the-tricky-jewish-girl-and-me/

]]> By: Global Voices بالعربية » البحرين: لماذا المواقع الاباحية شعبية؟ http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/23/why-adult-sites-do-well-in-the-middle-east/#comment-19267 Global Voices بالعربية » البحرين: لماذا المواقع الاباحية شعبية؟ Thu, 01 May 2008 06:38:39 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/23/why-adult-sites-do-well-in-the-middle-east/#comment-19267 [...] لها شعبية في الشرق الأوسط؟ تتساءل المدونة البحرينية إسراء, وتنشر رد فيديو من [...] [...] لها شعبية في الشرق الأوسط؟ تتساءل المدونة البحرينية إسراء, وتنشر رد فيديو من [...]

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Bahrain: Why are Adult Sites Popular? http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/23/why-adult-sites-do-well-in-the-middle-east/#comment-19266 Global Voices Online » Bahrain: Why are Adult Sites Popular? Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:03:17 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/23/why-adult-sites-do-well-in-the-middle-east/#comment-19266 [...] are adult sites popular in the Middle East, asks Bahraini Esra'a, who posts a video opinion from Lebanon. Posted by Amira Al Hussaini Share [...] [...] are adult sites popular in the Middle East, asks Bahraini Esra'a, who posts a video opinion from Lebanon. Posted by Amira Al Hussaini Share [...]

]]> By: eric/canada http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/23/why-adult-sites-do-well-in-the-middle-east/#comment-19265 eric/canada Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:51:36 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/23/why-adult-sites-do-well-in-the-middle-east/#comment-19265 I would say the most interesting aspect of porn from a communications aspect is that the internet is the first mass communication medium to really saturate it. It lurked on the fringes of broadcast television, and was and still is the battleground of censorship in print, and was never really relevant to radio (hmmm, sounds like those folks are really getting it on!). Cable television and the internet developed at nealy the same time, and while both offered it the internet was and is of course the most accessable. The sub culture of porn movie houses is pretty much gone, from once being quite popular, but oddly enough the porn video tape & CD industry is still thriving. Over time this will probably fade as well as the older, less tech savvy consumers die off. I don't agree with the assertion that legally available porn reduces the instances of sexual abuse and crime in a society. There is still plenty of it in North America, and attacks against children seem to be worse than ever! An interesting little news snippet from Canada on the topic of human trafficing: In the wake of changes to the Immigration Act to no longer allow carte blanche work visas to foreign adult dancers, the Minister of Immigration has been assigned police protection following anonymous death threats. Authorities consider the threats to have come from international organized crime groups, and regional biker gangs, both of whom control much of this industry in Canada. Interfering with someone's business, I guess.... I would say the most interesting aspect of porn from a communications aspect is that the internet is the first mass communication medium to really saturate it. It lurked on the fringes of broadcast television, and was and still is the battleground of censorship in print, and was never really relevant to radio (hmmm, sounds like those folks are really getting it on!). Cable television and the internet developed at nealy the same time, and while both offered it the internet was and is of course the most accessable. The sub culture of porn movie houses is pretty much gone, from once being quite popular, but oddly enough the porn video tape & CD industry is still thriving. Over time this will probably fade as well as the older, less tech savvy consumers die off.
I don’t agree with the assertion that legally available porn reduces the instances of sexual abuse and crime in a society. There is still plenty of it in North America, and attacks against children seem to be worse than ever!
An interesting little news snippet from Canada on the topic of human trafficing:
In the wake of changes to the Immigration Act to no longer allow carte blanche work visas to foreign adult dancers, the Minister of Immigration has been assigned police protection following anonymous death threats. Authorities consider the threats to have come from international organized crime groups, and regional biker gangs, both of whom control much of this industry in Canada.
Interfering with someone’s business, I guess….

]]> By: Dima http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/23/why-adult-sites-do-well-in-the-middle-east/#comment-19264 Dima Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:56:55 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/23/why-adult-sites-do-well-in-the-middle-east/#comment-19264 As to your comment on NRG, they would publish items about the situation with women trafficking in Israel. Actually all the leading Israeli newspapers publish information about it. They do it once or twice a year when various international reports are getting published. But unfortunately nothing substantive happens. As to your comment on NRG, they would publish items about the situation with women trafficking in Israel. Actually all the leading Israeli newspapers publish information about it. They do it once or twice a year when various international reports are getting published. But unfortunately nothing substantive happens.

]]> By: Muneeb (Saudi Arabia/Pakistan) http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/23/why-adult-sites-do-well-in-the-middle-east/#comment-19263 Muneeb (Saudi Arabia/Pakistan) Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:05:24 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/23/why-adult-sites-do-well-in-the-middle-east/#comment-19263 I guess since this leaves no trail at home. n the variety..? n u got good points nissim :D I guess since this leaves no trail at home. n the variety..?
n u got good points nissim :D

]]> By: Nissim Dahan http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/23/why-adult-sites-do-well-in-the-middle-east/#comment-19262 Nissim Dahan Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:39:50 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/23/why-adult-sites-do-well-in-the-middle-east/#comment-19262 Simon, you certainly have a point, but I think that the "forbidden" aspect of porn is still there even though it is legally available. Take the U.S. for example. Porn is readily available here, and is tolerated, as you suggest, but still draws a huge market. Why? Because it still smacks of the "forbidden fruit." With all its liberal attitudes, the U.S. is still repressed sexually in many respects. The notions of sexual taboos are still very much alive and well here. The attraction of porn must be somehow related to the idea of using the vicarious experience of porn to circumvent sexual taboos. Another aspect at work is that porn allows a sexual encounter of sorts, without the committment that an actual relationship entails. You get the goodies, without the work. And this desire for instant gratification is present in much of what occupies our time: drugs, drinking, cinema, TV, etc. So in a way, porn is not just porn, but is symptomatic of larger issues: sexual repression, religious repression, political oppression, the desire for instant gratification, the inclination for vicarious relationships as opposed to real relationships, and in addition, the demeaning of women. I don't really have a handle of all the implications, but my guess is that it is deeper than we think. Simon, you certainly have a point, but I think that the “forbidden” aspect of porn is still there even though it is legally available. Take the U.S. for example. Porn is readily available here, and is tolerated, as you suggest, but still draws a huge market. Why? Because it still smacks of the “forbidden fruit.”

With all its liberal attitudes, the U.S. is still repressed sexually in many respects. The notions of sexual taboos are still very much alive and well here. The attraction of porn must be somehow related to the idea of using the vicarious experience of porn to circumvent sexual taboos.

Another aspect at work is that porn allows a sexual encounter of sorts, without the committment that an actual relationship entails. You get the goodies, without the work. And this desire for instant gratification is present in much of what occupies our time: drugs, drinking, cinema, TV, etc.

So in a way, porn is not just porn, but is symptomatic of larger issues: sexual repression, religious repression, political oppression, the desire for instant gratification, the inclination for vicarious relationships as opposed to real relationships, and in addition, the demeaning of women. I don’t really have a handle of all the implications, but my guess is that it is deeper than we think.

]]> By: Simon Columbus http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/23/why-adult-sites-do-well-in-the-middle-east/#comment-19261 Simon Columbus Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:13:12 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/23/why-adult-sites-do-well-in-the-middle-east/#comment-19261 Porn is great: If porn is available legally in a country, there are less cases of sexual abuse. (Too bad I can't give a source for that, but I read it in a newspaper as a scientifically researched fact). @ Nissim: <blockquote>But I think that there is a natural inclination for people to desire what is forbidden.</blockquote> That's true, but in can't be the sole reason for the fascination of porn. In many countries it is not only legally available, but also no longer morally condemned. Still people view porn in these countries. Maybe porn is just a modern substitution for no longer up-to-date fertility cults... Porn is great: If porn is available legally in a country, there are less cases of sexual abuse. (Too bad I can’t give a source for that, but I read it in a newspaper as a scientifically researched fact).

@ Nissim:

But I think that there is a natural inclination for people to desire what is forbidden.

That’s true, but in can’t be the sole reason for the fascination of porn. In many countries it is not only legally available, but also no longer morally condemned. Still people view porn in these countries.

Maybe porn is just a modern substitution for no longer up-to-date fertility cults…

]]> By: elinor(Iran) http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/23/why-adult-sites-do-well-in-the-middle-east/#comment-19260 elinor(Iran) Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:23:12 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/23/why-adult-sites-do-well-in-the-middle-east/#comment-19260 Supply resides where need is. Need is intensified when there is a Ban. Less of freedom, more of need for what composed the natural side of human being, or that's how I see it. Supply resides where need is. Need is intensified when there is a Ban. Less of freedom, more of need for what composed the natural side of human being, or that’s how I see it.

]]> By: Mohammad Memarian (Iran) http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/23/why-adult-sites-do-well-in-the-middle-east/#comment-19259 Mohammad Memarian (Iran) Thu, 24 Apr 2008 06:26:12 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/23/why-adult-sites-do-well-in-the-middle-east/#comment-19259 Elephant: good point. "the newness", however, is not the sole cause for porn being attractive. in this case, biology matters as well. <blockquote>were magazines and videos easy to get? Or is it all new now that you can get it privately over the Net?</blockquote> indeed Internet (and some other new technologies) made it much easier, though it were possible in the old times as well. I heard that copies of porn magaziones (playboy) or VHS videos had been available in Iran, even immediately after the revolution, perhaps as the stock gathered during Shah regime. let me add one other point, about which Im going to publish a post as soon as possible: with regards to "breaking the traditional mold" in general, and porn in particular, Internet was the superhero supplier of past decade in Iran. today's superhero (though very often supplied itself by Internet) is Bluetooth. this phenomenon... wait! Elephant:

good point. “the newness”, however, is not the sole cause for porn being attractive. in this case, biology matters as well.

were magazines and videos easy to get? Or is it all new now that you can get it privately over the Net?

indeed Internet (and some other new technologies) made it much easier, though it were possible in the old times as well. I heard that copies of porn magaziones (playboy) or VHS videos had been available in Iran, even immediately after the revolution, perhaps as the stock gathered during Shah regime.

let me add one other point, about which Im going to publish a post as soon as possible: with regards to “breaking the traditional mold” in general, and porn in particular, Internet was the superhero supplier of past decade in Iran. today’s superhero (though very often supplied itself by Internet) is Bluetooth. this phenomenon… wait!

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