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> <channel><title>Comments on: Bahrain&#8217;s gay-hunt</title> <atom:link href="http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/bahrains-gay-hunt/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/bahrains-gay-hunt/</link> <description>Promoting a fierce but respectful dialogue among the highly diverse youth of the Middle East</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:34:45 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Global Voices بالعربية &#187; البحرين: نواب البرلمان يدعون إلى ترحيل المثليين</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/bahrains-gay-hunt/#comment-139879</link> <dc:creator>Global Voices بالعربية &#187; البحرين: نواب البرلمان يدعون إلى ترحيل المثليين</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:22:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/bahrains-gay-hunt/#comment-139879</guid> <description>[...] كوثر من مدونة شباب الشرق الأوسط, أيضاً لم تعجبها مطالب النواب, وتكتب: الاقتراح الذي تم [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] كوثر من مدونة شباب الشرق الأوسط, أيضاً لم تعجبها مطالب النواب, وتكتب: الاقتراح الذي تم [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Bahrain: MPs call to deport homosexuals</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/bahrains-gay-hunt/#comment-139447</link> <dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Bahrain: MPs call to deport homosexuals</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:47:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/bahrains-gay-hunt/#comment-139447</guid> <description>[...] at Mideast Youth is not impressed with the MPs&#039; demand either: The proposal - which has been ratified by [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at Mideast Youth is not impressed with the MPs&#39; demand either: The proposal &#8211; which has been ratified by [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Confused</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/bahrains-gay-hunt/#comment-139203</link> <dc:creator>Confused</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:29:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/bahrains-gay-hunt/#comment-139203</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I do have the worst sarcasm detector in the world.&lt;/blockquote&gt;That&#039;s a credit to you - sarcasm is the lowest form of humour. Thanks a lot for your reply - I&#039;m v. sympathetic to what you&#039;re saying here.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I do have the worst sarcasm detector in the world.</p></blockquote><p>That&#8217;s a credit to you &#8211; sarcasm is the lowest form of humour. Thanks a lot for your reply &#8211; I&#8217;m v. sympathetic to what you&#8217;re saying here.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Esra'a (Bahrain)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/bahrains-gay-hunt/#comment-139040</link> <dc:creator>Esra'a (Bahrain)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:32:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/bahrains-gay-hunt/#comment-139040</guid> <description>Actually I am wrong, they are related to the government of course, but I think we have a social responsibility to change the things we consider wrong. To consider homosexuality a crime, to be imprisoned for it, that is something people seem to approve of. So the government gets away with it, people say it&#039;s in keeping with &quot;Islamic values.&quot; Same thing with migrant rights, if people want to improve the laws concerning them, they can. But it&#039;s not to their benefit, because racists are everywhere. They really are treated like second hand citizens. Suck them dry of their cheap labor until they drop dead or commit suicide. Society&#039;s reply: &lt;i&gt;Shrug. Just import more.&lt;/i&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I am wrong, they are related to the government of course, but I think we have a social responsibility to change the things we consider wrong. To consider homosexuality a crime, to be imprisoned for it, that is something people seem to approve of. So the government gets away with it, people say it&#8217;s in keeping with &#8220;Islamic values.&#8221; Same thing with migrant rights, if people want to improve the laws concerning them, they can. But it&#8217;s not to their benefit, because racists are everywhere. They really are treated like second hand citizens. Suck them dry of their cheap labor until they drop dead or commit suicide. Society&#8217;s reply: <i>Shrug. Just import more.</i></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Esra'a (Bahrain)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/bahrains-gay-hunt/#comment-139039</link> <dc:creator>Esra'a (Bahrain)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:28:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/bahrains-gay-hunt/#comment-139039</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Sorry, my question was kind of facetious&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I do have the worst sarcasm detector in the world.
&lt;blockquote&gt;democratisation in the Middle East &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Honestly, in any &quot;democracy,&quot; minorities get screwed. Tyranny of the majority, some like to call it. I advocate certain democratic values, such as freedom of speech for example, limited government, etc, but certainly not &quot;democracy&quot; as a whole within the region. Suppose we do have democracy - the majority say they want severe punishments for homosexuals (and this is totally possible, homosexuals throughout the whole region get abused first and foremost by their societies, not necessarily the government) - or that expat and migrant workers should continue to be treated like slaves (also possible; no one gives a shit and racism in the country is rampant and treated casually, not many bother raising an eyebrow at this abuse) - where&#039;s the human rights in that? If people have a voice in the country, and they vote to actively oppress minorities (ethnic, religious, sexual, whatever) then what?Makes me realize..Our problems are societal, not necessarily related to the government (not in these cases anyways.) If we want it to change, I believe we really can, but no one bothers changing it because people do approve.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Sorry, my question was kind of facetious</p></blockquote><p>I do have the worst sarcasm detector in the world.</p><blockquote><p>democratisation in the Middle East</p></blockquote><p>Honestly, in any &#8220;democracy,&#8221; minorities get screwed. Tyranny of the majority, some like to call it. I advocate certain democratic values, such as freedom of speech for example, limited government, etc, but certainly not &#8220;democracy&#8221; as a whole within the region. Suppose we do have democracy &#8211; the majority say they want severe punishments for homosexuals (and this is totally possible, homosexuals throughout the whole region get abused first and foremost by their societies, not necessarily the government) &#8211; or that expat and migrant workers should continue to be treated like slaves (also possible; no one gives a shit and racism in the country is rampant and treated casually, not many bother raising an eyebrow at this abuse) &#8211; where&#8217;s the human rights in that? If people have a voice in the country, and they vote to actively oppress minorities (ethnic, religious, sexual, whatever) then what?</p><p>Makes me realize..</p><p>Our problems are societal, not necessarily related to the government (not in these cases anyways.) If we want it to change, I believe we really can, but no one bothers changing it because people do approve.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Confused</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/bahrains-gay-hunt/#comment-139035</link> <dc:creator>Confused</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:52:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/bahrains-gay-hunt/#comment-139035</guid> <description>Thanks for the reply Esra&#039;a.Sorry, my question was kind of facetious, but I did want to raise a serious point: the relationship between democracy and human rights. One of the problems with discussion about democratisation in the Middle East is that there doesn’t seem to be an acknowledgement on the part of democracy advocates that more democracy won’t necessarily promote human or minority rights. I’m not saying that Bahrain’s a democracy, only that the lower house of parliament’s a lot more democratic than either the executive or the liberal elite whose laissez faire attitude obviously so angers Mohammed Khaled and his many sympathisers. Yet this truth seems to be swept under the carpet by those who are the most enthusiastic supporters of democracy.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the reply Esra&#8217;a.</p><p>Sorry, my question was kind of facetious, but I did want to raise a serious point: the relationship between democracy and human rights. One of the problems with discussion about democratisation in the Middle East is that there doesn’t seem to be an acknowledgement on the part of democracy advocates that more democracy won’t necessarily promote human or minority rights. I’m not saying that Bahrain’s a democracy, only that the lower house of parliament’s a lot more democratic than either the executive or the liberal elite whose laissez faire attitude obviously so angers Mohammed Khaled and his many sympathisers. Yet this truth seems to be swept under the carpet by those who are the most enthusiastic supporters of democracy.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Esra'a (Bahrain)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/bahrains-gay-hunt/#comment-138859</link> <dc:creator>Esra'a (Bahrain)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 07:09:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/bahrains-gay-hunt/#comment-138859</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Surely these MPs have been misquoted?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Not at all. And who said Bahrain was democratic? We are hardly a democracy - we only seem as such in comparison to neighboring countries, yes, but we&#039;re quite far from a serious, functioning &quot;democracy.&quot;As for being &quot;misquoted&quot; - you wanna meet our MPs? Check &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Khalid&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt; out:&lt;blockquote&gt;Mohammed Khalid derided the annual Spring of Culture arts festival jointly sponsored by Batelco and the Culture and National Heritage Department, in 2006 as the ‘Spring of Sakhafa’ (Silliness), and in 2007 as the &#039;Spring of Sex&#039;; in 2004 he described young people competing in the Arab version of Star Academy as ‘scum’ and alleged that Satanists in Bahrain are organizing rock concerts as cover for devil worship.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Ah yes! Human rights. Insult and punish those who take part in singing, celebrating, listening to rock music, and ew, all those homos too! This is our democracy. Screw serious matters such as education, migrant rights, sex trafficking, health care, affordable housing, et al. They don&#039;t matter. OUR YOUTH ON THE INTERNET THOUGH? The world is over. Let&#039;s launch a campaign to ban every harmless hobby/passion in existence. Much easier than achieving real change in society and helping the unemployed/poor/homeless/sick or work on things such as family law.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Surely these MPs have been misquoted?</p></blockquote><p>Not at all. And who said Bahrain was democratic? We are hardly a democracy &#8211; we only seem as such in comparison to neighboring countries, yes, but we&#8217;re quite far from a serious, functioning &#8220;democracy.&#8221;</p><p>As for being &#8220;misquoted&#8221; &#8211; you wanna meet our MPs? Check <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Khalid" rel="nofollow">this one</a> out:</p><blockquote><p>Mohammed Khalid derided the annual Spring of Culture arts festival jointly sponsored by Batelco and the Culture and National Heritage Department, in 2006 as the ‘Spring of Sakhafa’ (Silliness), and in 2007 as the &#8216;Spring of Sex&#8217;; in 2004 he described young people competing in the Arab version of Star Academy as ‘scum’ and alleged that Satanists in Bahrain are organizing rock concerts as cover for devil worship.</p></blockquote><p>Ah yes! Human rights. Insult and punish those who take part in singing, celebrating, listening to rock music, and ew, all those homos too! This is our democracy. Screw serious matters such as education, migrant rights, sex trafficking, health care, affordable housing, et al. They don&#8217;t matter. OUR YOUTH ON THE INTERNET THOUGH? The world is over. Let&#8217;s launch a campaign to ban every harmless hobby/passion in existence. Much easier than achieving real change in society and helping the unemployed/poor/homeless/sick or work on things such as family law.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Confused</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/bahrains-gay-hunt/#comment-138795</link> <dc:creator>Confused</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:14:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/bahrains-gay-hunt/#comment-138795</guid> <description>But i thought more democracy meant more human rights. Surely these MPs have been misquoted?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But i thought more democracy meant more human rights. Surely these MPs have been misquoted?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Esra'a (Bahrain)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/bahrains-gay-hunt/#comment-138759</link> <dc:creator>Esra'a (Bahrain)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:34:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/bahrains-gay-hunt/#comment-138759</guid> <description>How utterly disturbing, what&#039;s our country coming down to?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How utterly disturbing, what&#8217;s our country coming down to?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kawthar (Sudan)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/bahrains-gay-hunt/#comment-138740</link> <dc:creator>Kawthar (Sudan)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:14:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/bahrains-gay-hunt/#comment-138740</guid> <description>I&#039;m still waiting to see how Bahraini citizens would respond to this news, although some have expressed &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story.asp?Article=215410&amp;Sn=BNEW&amp;IssueID=31035&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;their fury&lt;/a&gt;.The only thing that&#039;s left is for them to create a national call-line for reporting homosexuals ... 800 - KILLGAYS (54554287)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still waiting to see how Bahraini citizens would respond to this news, although some have expressed <a
href="http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story.asp?Article=215410&#038;Sn=BNEW&#038;IssueID=31035" rel="nofollow">their fury</a>.</p><p>The only thing that&#8217;s left is for them to create a national call-line for reporting homosexuals &#8230; 800 &#8211; KILLGAYS (54554287)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Greg</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/bahrains-gay-hunt/#comment-138576</link> <dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:51:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/bahrains-gay-hunt/#comment-138576</guid> <description>This is definitely not a good thing. We don&#039;t need to give Pat Robertson and company any new ideas.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is definitely not a good thing. We don&#8217;t need to give Pat Robertson and company any new ideas.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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