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	<title>Comments on: Women Shadows</title>
	<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/women-shadows/</link>
	<description>Promoting a fierce but respectful dialogue among the highly diverse youth of the Middle East</description>
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		<title>By: Nissim Dahan (Israel/USA)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/women-shadows/#comment-138722</link>
		<dc:creator>Nissim Dahan (Israel/USA)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rasha, I like how you describe the plight of women in Saudi Arabia, and much of the Middle East. For some reason, I can relate to this issue, even though I am not a woman.

Many women are not treated well in the Middle East, and this reality stands as an impediment to progress. Women are the givers of life, and the caretakers of life, and if you demean them, aren't you in effect demeaning life itself? Women, as the protectors of their children are naturally inclined toward peace, and if you demean them aren't you in effect negating the possibility of peace? Women, as the "managers" of their households are naturally predisposed to getting things done, and if you demean them aren't you in effect paralyzing yourself into a state of inertia?

There is a natural balance intended between the feminine and the masculine. Each part comprises half of the whole, and the whole is intended to comprise more than the sum of its parts. That's why a good marriage is a blessing for the generations. 

When men throw that balance out of balance, with false belief, and a false sense of themselves, and a flase sense of entitlement, then they are bringing big trouble upon themselves, the kind of trouble that puts a society out of kilter, and that brings to the surface all the resentments that stain the fabric of love.

It is not only the role of women that has been put out of balance as a result of false belief. It is a lot of other things, like the environment, like ideological extremism, and like our indifference in seeing others suffer the ravages of poverty. 

If we want to live good and worthwhile lives, we have no choice but to bring a semblance of order to our lives. And that sense or order cannot be predicated on false belief, such as the belief that we are somehow superior because we are men, or because we believe in this or that religion, or because we are wealthy, or because of our race, etc. 

A sense or order will emerge in the world when people the world over begin to believe what makes sense, and begin to buy into an ideology of common sense. There are universal truths that have been put in place, and that we ignore at our peril. We have to somehow find the courage to let go of some of what we believe, in favor of what we know deep down to be true. The courage that we usually reserve for battle, is the courage we now have to summon for the battle that must be waged in our hearts and minds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rasha, I like how you describe the plight of women in Saudi Arabia, and much of the Middle East. For some reason, I can relate to this issue, even though I am not a woman.</p>
<p>Many women are not treated well in the Middle East, and this reality stands as an impediment to progress. Women are the givers of life, and the caretakers of life, and if you demean them, aren&#8217;t you in effect demeaning life itself? Women, as the protectors of their children are naturally inclined toward peace, and if you demean them aren&#8217;t you in effect negating the possibility of peace? Women, as the &#8220;managers&#8221; of their households are naturally predisposed to getting things done, and if you demean them aren&#8217;t you in effect paralyzing yourself into a state of inertia?</p>
<p>There is a natural balance intended between the feminine and the masculine. Each part comprises half of the whole, and the whole is intended to comprise more than the sum of its parts. That&#8217;s why a good marriage is a blessing for the generations. </p>
<p>When men throw that balance out of balance, with false belief, and a false sense of themselves, and a flase sense of entitlement, then they are bringing big trouble upon themselves, the kind of trouble that puts a society out of kilter, and that brings to the surface all the resentments that stain the fabric of love.</p>
<p>It is not only the role of women that has been put out of balance as a result of false belief. It is a lot of other things, like the environment, like ideological extremism, and like our indifference in seeing others suffer the ravages of poverty. </p>
<p>If we want to live good and worthwhile lives, we have no choice but to bring a semblance of order to our lives. And that sense or order cannot be predicated on false belief, such as the belief that we are somehow superior because we are men, or because we believe in this or that religion, or because we are wealthy, or because of our race, etc. </p>
<p>A sense or order will emerge in the world when people the world over begin to believe what makes sense, and begin to buy into an ideology of common sense. There are universal truths that have been put in place, and that we ignore at our peril. We have to somehow find the courage to let go of some of what we believe, in favor of what we know deep down to be true. The courage that we usually reserve for battle, is the courage we now have to summon for the battle that must be waged in our hearts and minds.</p>
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		<title>By: elinor(Iran)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/women-shadows/#comment-138705</link>
		<dc:creator>elinor(Iran)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/women-shadows/#comment-138705</guid>
		<description>Hi Rashi :)
Things are changing, and one should be verywary of the potential of women so much moulded in the traditional context, as you say, because women almost make half the society and imagine half the society having a potietial to be otherwise, this being otherwise every now and then pops up and makes some news and headlines, but then it is influencial, it spreads gradually, consciousness that the turn of century induces on people of the world, you cannot supress that forever. I remember some years back when a Suadi lady, a tv anchor was beaten harshly by her husband, for answering the phone before he did, she let the journalists take picutres of her and spread it in the media, there were two pictures of her, one with a beautiful face and veil from her tv broadcasting program, and one of her black and blue and swollen face in the emergency room before operation. Well, poblicity does control these kinds of behavior, and I am sure these bahaviors are not even appriciated in SA, but as the male controlling and male dominating society goes on dominating, discrimination of women is down played. One thing can make us women of the Middle East stronger, our connection, our constant being involved with one another, creating networks of our own, NGO's of our own, and gradually men will try to opwn a space for us in the society, a place and space that we deserve, at least even if you regard them as looking at us as object, the way we cleared a place in our kitchens for refregerator and later on freezer, they might let us station our abilities in the face of society :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rashi <img src='http://www.mideastyouth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Things are changing, and one should be verywary of the potential of women so much moulded in the traditional context, as you say, because women almost make half the society and imagine half the society having a potietial to be otherwise, this being otherwise every now and then pops up and makes some news and headlines, but then it is influencial, it spreads gradually, consciousness that the turn of century induces on people of the world, you cannot supress that forever. I remember some years back when a Suadi lady, a tv anchor was beaten harshly by her husband, for answering the phone before he did, she let the journalists take picutres of her and spread it in the media, there were two pictures of her, one with a beautiful face and veil from her tv broadcasting program, and one of her black and blue and swollen face in the emergency room before operation. Well, poblicity does control these kinds of behavior, and I am sure these bahaviors are not even appriciated in SA, but as the male controlling and male dominating society goes on dominating, discrimination of women is down played. One thing can make us women of the Middle East stronger, our connection, our constant being involved with one another, creating networks of our own, NGO&#8217;s of our own, and gradually men will try to opwn a space for us in the society, a place and space that we deserve, at least even if you regard them as looking at us as object, the way we cleared a place in our kitchens for refregerator and later on freezer, they might let us station our abilities in the face of society <img src='http://www.mideastyouth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: bonnie lief</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/04/24/women-shadows/#comment-138704</link>
		<dc:creator>bonnie lief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rasha- nice to see you back here.  Sometimes i wonder, is escape possible? If one feels they can sacrifice contact with family,can one, for example, stay overseas if one is a foreign exchange student? Or leave with a group on an exchange program and then melt into the population of another country?  It would be hard I imagine, but do we have any access to family money, which would enable them to live elsewhere? Have u heard of this Rasha?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rasha- nice to see you back here.  Sometimes i wonder, is escape possible? If one feels they can sacrifice contact with family,can one, for example, stay overseas if one is a foreign exchange student? Or leave with a group on an exchange program and then melt into the population of another country?  It would be hard I imagine, but do we have any access to family money, which would enable them to live elsewhere? Have u heard of this Rasha?</p>
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