Comments on: Losing his religion: Is Obama at risk? http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/05/12/obamas-muslim-roots-is-he-at-risk/ Promoting a fierce but respectful dialogue among the highly diverse youth of the Middle East Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:34:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Magnushttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/05/12/obamas-muslim-roots-is-he-at-risk/#comment-147040 Magnus Fri, 16 May 2008 11:40:42 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/05/12/obamas-muslim-roots-is-he-at-risk/#comment-147040 Quran 16:106 Whoso disbelieveth in Allah after his belief - save him who is forced thereto and whose heart is still content with the Faith - but whoso findeth ease in disbelief: On them is wrath from Allah. Theirs will be an awful doom. Quran 16:106 Whoso disbelieveth in Allah after his belief – save him who is forced thereto and whose heart is still content with the Faith – but whoso findeth ease in disbelief: On them is wrath from Allah. Theirs will be an awful doom.

]]> By: Miriam (Egypt/Israel/USA)http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/05/12/obamas-muslim-roots-is-he-at-risk/#comment-146509 Miriam (Egypt/Israel/USA) Wed, 14 May 2008 19:48:08 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/05/12/obamas-muslim-roots-is-he-at-risk/#comment-146509 Lots of likeminded comments today in Letters:http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/14/opinion/lweb14muslim.html Lots of likeminded comments today in Letters:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/14/opinion/lweb14muslim.html

]]> By: Jinahttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/05/12/obamas-muslim-roots-is-he-at-risk/#comment-146505 Jina Wed, 14 May 2008 19:13:32 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/05/12/obamas-muslim-roots-is-he-at-risk/#comment-146505 ROFL @ OP ROFL @ OP

]]> By: Danialhttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/05/12/obamas-muslim-roots-is-he-at-risk/#comment-146483 Danial Wed, 14 May 2008 16:28:01 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/05/12/obamas-muslim-roots-is-he-at-risk/#comment-146483 You guys do realize that there was already an "apostate" leader that existed before?Argentina's Carlos Menem who was the PM I believe during the 70s and 80s. He was born a Muslim but converted to Catholicism due to constitutional rules on forbidding non-Catholics from running. He has visited a slew of Arab and Muslim nations (including Saudi Arabia) yet no one made a big deal about his apostasy.This is fear-mongering at its finest, worthy of the trash bin. You guys do realize that there was already an “apostate” leader that existed before?

Argentina’s Carlos Menem who was the PM I believe during the 70s and 80s. He was born a Muslim but converted to Catholicism due to constitutional rules on forbidding non-Catholics from running. He has visited a slew of Arab and Muslim nations (including Saudi Arabia) yet no one made a big deal about his apostasy.

This is fear-mongering at its finest, worthy of the trash bin.

]]> By: eric/canadahttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/05/12/obamas-muslim-roots-is-he-at-risk/#comment-146478 eric/canada Wed, 14 May 2008 14:53:46 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/05/12/obamas-muslim-roots-is-he-at-risk/#comment-146478 The question of whether or not Barack Obama is an apostate is irrelevant. Should he become president (Oh, please, not McCain or Hillary), there will be ample rationales for the now 20% of the American public that believes he is a Muslim, the 10% who think he is an Arab, and of course the legions of people around whe world who will hate him because he is the President of the USA, to all "git theer gunz". There will also undoubtably be fatwas of death against him for his "apostasy", from the same learned pillars who gave us the "Hurricane Katrina is God's punishment",and "the Tsunami is God's punishment for immorality" releases. As we all know, no amount of calm, rational debate is going to sway the "educated" opinions of the above noted folk. Hopefully there will finally be some real technological advances for rendering a fellow bulletproof while still photogenically visible by the time he takes office. The question of whether or not Barack Obama is an apostate is irrelevant. Should he become president (Oh, please, not McCain or Hillary), there will be ample rationales for the now 20% of the American public that believes he is a Muslim, the 10% who think he is an Arab, and of course the legions of people around whe world who will hate him because he is the President of the USA, to all “git theer gunz”.
There will also undoubtably be fatwas of death against him for his “apostasy”, from the same learned pillars who gave us the “Hurricane Katrina is God’s punishment”,and “the Tsunami is God’s punishment for immorality” releases. As we all know, no amount of calm, rational debate is going to sway the “educated” opinions of the above noted folk.
Hopefully there will finally be some real technological advances for rendering a fellow bulletproof while still photogenically visible by the time he takes office.

]]> By: ReformistIslamOnlyInAmericahttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/05/12/obamas-muslim-roots-is-he-at-risk/#comment-146390 ReformistIslamOnlyInAmerica Wed, 14 May 2008 04:25:40 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/05/12/obamas-muslim-roots-is-he-at-risk/#comment-146390 "Islam is not an inheritanIslam is not an inheritance. It is a concious decision to believe, a decision that is taken when you are an adult."fred,Can you then explain to me why there exists two kinds of apostates: 1. Murtad Fitri 2. Murtad MilliAlso, check out this case http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/04/18/asia/AS-GEN-Malaysia-Custody-Struggle.phpYour interpretation of Koranic text is inconsistent with mainstream Islam as it practiced outside of America. I understand that there are some proponent of Reformist Islam in America but from what I see they are being bashed by mainstream Islam currently. “Islam is not an inheritanIslam is not an inheritance. It is a concious decision to believe, a decision that is taken when you are an adult.”

fred,

Can you then explain to me why there exists two kinds of apostates:
1. Murtad Fitri
2. Murtad Milli

Also, check out this case
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/04/18/asia/AS-GEN-Malaysia-Custody-Struggle.php

Your interpretation of Koranic text is inconsistent with mainstream Islam as it practiced outside of America. I understand that there are some proponent of Reformist Islam in America but from what I see they are being bashed by mainstream Islam currently.

]]> By: fredhttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/05/12/obamas-muslim-roots-is-he-at-risk/#comment-146355 fred Wed, 14 May 2008 00:16:02 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/05/12/obamas-muslim-roots-is-he-at-risk/#comment-146355 when are you people going to ask muslims what the religion of islam is about, instead of fox news or the rand coporation.If a muslim leaves islam, there has historically been two punishments , death or banishment.however to leave islam, (AND PUBLICLY DO IT). That person has to be a) sane b) an adult - passed puberty c) have choosen ISLAM as their religion as an adultIslam is not an inheritance. It is a concious decision to believe, a decision that is taken when you are an adult.Muslim means Mu (the one ) slim (who submits) There are two types of Muslims Muslim with a capital M , is the adult who conciously submits to the will of Allah muslim with a lowercase m, is the animals, the plants, the planets , the angels who all submit to Allahs laws as a matter of course. The Muslim child is a muslim of the lowercase m when are you people going to ask muslims what the religion of islam is about, instead of fox news or the rand coporation.

If a muslim leaves islam, there has historically been two punishments , death or banishment.

however to leave islam, (AND PUBLICLY DO IT). That person has to be
a) sane
b) an adult – passed puberty
c) have choosen ISLAM as their religion as an adult

Islam is not an inheritance. It is a concious decision to believe, a decision that is taken when you are an adult.

Muslim means Mu (the one ) slim (who submits)
There are two types of Muslims
Muslim with a capital M , is the adult who conciously submits to the will of Allah
muslim with a lowercase m, is the animals, the plants, the planets , the angels who all submit to Allahs laws as a matter of course. The Muslim child is a muslim of the lowercase m

]]> By: Danialhttp://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/05/12/obamas-muslim-roots-is-he-at-risk/#comment-146324 Danial Tue, 13 May 2008 19:54:30 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/05/12/obamas-muslim-roots-is-he-at-risk/#comment-146324 Alarmist writing indeed.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ali-eteraz/obama-islam-smear-changes_b_101337.html Alarmist writing indeed.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ali-eteraz/obama-islam-smear-changes_b_101337.html

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