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	<title>Comments on: Germany bans Kurdish TV despite decisions in Denmark that the station is acting lawfully</title>
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		<title>By: Halalhippie /Denmark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Halalhippie /Denmark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 12:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Simon says:-) Germany isn&#039;t quite as liberal for historical reasons. Note that even though ROJ TV doesn&#039;t go against Danish law, it might go against German
law.
 As a Dane, I am happy that y&#039;all agree that freedom of expression should not be limited, because someone may not like it. In this case a political debate. Remember - when throwing cheese at me - the same thing applies for a religious debate. Insults are bad, but censorship is worse (ducking).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Simon says:-) Germany isn&#8217;t quite as liberal for historical reasons. Note that even though ROJ TV doesn&#8217;t go against Danish law, it might go against German<br />
law.<br />
 As a Dane, I am happy that y&#8217;all agree that freedom of expression should not be limited, because someone may not like it. In this case a political debate. Remember &#8211; when throwing cheese at me &#8211; the same thing applies for a religious debate. Insults are bad, but censorship is worse (ducking).</p>
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		<title>By: Kazo Aman</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/07/02/germany-bans-kurdish-tv-despite-decisions-in-denmark-that-the-station-is-acting-lawfully/#comment-20112</link>
		<dc:creator>Kazo Aman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because there are Kurds that work for RojTV that are PKK sympathizers does not automatically make the station PKK connected. Theres difference when people individually support things and when an organization is linked to another organization.

I agree with Abdullah that so many people support PKK but what other option but selfdefense does one have when Turkish military attacking your people, you have secondclass rights and politics is not really an option because Turkey is not really a democracy?

And you also say 2/3 million voted for a &quot;PKK related party&quot;. That&#039;s an outright lie. I will assume you are talking about the Kurdish DTP. They (and all the legal nonviolent pro-Kurdish parties that preceded them) are a perfect example of how democracy in Turkey doesnt exist. Everytime Kurds set up a legal party in Turkey, the Turish government says it must be PKK (like youre saying) and shut them down.

You can&#039;t keep Kurds down and expect them to do nothing. PKK is a result of Turkish racism, not a cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because there are Kurds that work for RojTV that are PKK sympathizers does not automatically make the station PKK connected. Theres difference when people individually support things and when an organization is linked to another organization.</p>
<p>I agree with Abdullah that so many people support PKK but what other option but selfdefense does one have when Turkish military attacking your people, you have secondclass rights and politics is not really an option because Turkey is not really a democracy?</p>
<p>And you also say 2/3 million voted for a &#8220;PKK related party&#8221;. That&#8217;s an outright lie. I will assume you are talking about the Kurdish DTP. They (and all the legal nonviolent pro-Kurdish parties that preceded them) are a perfect example of how democracy in Turkey doesnt exist. Everytime Kurds set up a legal party in Turkey, the Turish government says it must be PKK (like youre saying) and shut them down.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t keep Kurds down and expect them to do nothing. PKK is a result of Turkish racism, not a cause.</p>
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		<title>By: Abdullah Cevdet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abdullah Cevdet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been in the Roj TV studio&#039;s. I know what I am talking about. I don&#039;t see the PKK as terrorists (I don&#039;t even believe terrorists exists). Just as another political movement. And they have a lot of support in Turkey. At least 2/3 million people voted for a PKK related party. Roj TV is a PKK station. this is not a generalization, but a fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been in the Roj TV studio&#8217;s. I know what I am talking about. I don&#8217;t see the PKK as terrorists (I don&#8217;t even believe terrorists exists). Just as another political movement. And they have a lot of support in Turkey. At least 2/3 million people voted for a PKK related party. Roj TV is a PKK station. this is not a generalization, but a fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Esra'a (Bahrain)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/07/02/germany-bans-kurdish-tv-despite-decisions-in-denmark-that-the-station-is-acting-lawfully/#comment-20110</link>
		<dc:creator>Esra'a (Bahrain)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Roj TV = PKK.
Kurdistan TV = KDP
Kurdsat = PUK.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Frankly these generalizations are absolutely baseless and they have been used beyond belief by the government to justify the systematic and brutal abuse against the Kurdish minority.

It goes without saying that most Kurds have nothing to do with the PKK. This is like saying that all Muslims are directly involved with Hezbollah, which is nothing but an outrageous generalization. Tons of peaceful Kurds (including children and the elderly) have been humiliated and abused by the Turkish authorities without any form of legitimate reasoning. It is purely racist and oppressive, and Turkish people should be aware of what is happening in their name.

Most Kurds do not resort to PKK tactics and are being imprisoned for their writing, singing, and for practicing their own cultural rights within Turkey. Associating their media with terrorism (without sufficient proof) is just a cover for an extreme form of censorship that shouldn&#039;t be tolerated by anyone who values freedom and equality.

I am sad to see their media being banned in various other countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Roj TV = PKK.<br />
Kurdistan TV = KDP<br />
Kurdsat = PUK.</p></blockquote>
<p>Frankly these generalizations are absolutely baseless and they have been used beyond belief by the government to justify the systematic and brutal abuse against the Kurdish minority.</p>
<p>It goes without saying that most Kurds have nothing to do with the PKK. This is like saying that all Muslims are directly involved with Hezbollah, which is nothing but an outrageous generalization. Tons of peaceful Kurds (including children and the elderly) have been humiliated and abused by the Turkish authorities without any form of legitimate reasoning. It is purely racist and oppressive, and Turkish people should be aware of what is happening in their name.</p>
<p>Most Kurds do not resort to PKK tactics and are being imprisoned for their writing, singing, and for practicing their own cultural rights within Turkey. Associating their media with terrorism (without sufficient proof) is just a cover for an extreme form of censorship that shouldn&#8217;t be tolerated by anyone who values freedom and equality.</p>
<p>I am sad to see their media being banned in various other countries.</p>
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		<title>By: Kazo Aman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kazo Aman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You do need to be having anything to do with the Turkish government to be spreading their lies and propoganda. In Turkey, everything Kurdish is automatically considered PKK.

Last month, little children singing, this month, Kurdish TV. In Turkey, being Kurdish = terrorist. This how they silence Kurds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do need to be having anything to do with the Turkish government to be spreading their lies and propoganda. In Turkey, everything Kurdish is automatically considered PKK.</p>
<p>Last month, little children singing, this month, Kurdish TV. In Turkey, being Kurdish = terrorist. This how they silence Kurds.</p>
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		<title>By: Abdullah Cevdet</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/07/02/germany-bans-kurdish-tv-despite-decisions-in-denmark-that-the-station-is-acting-lawfully/#comment-20108</link>
		<dc:creator>Abdullah Cevdet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roj TV = PKK.
Kurdistan TV = KDP
Kurdsat = PUK.
Please don&#039;t let me laugh and I don&#039;t have anything to do with the Turkish government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roj TV = PKK.<br />
Kurdistan TV = KDP<br />
Kurdsat = PUK.<br />
Please don&#8217;t let me laugh and I don&#8217;t have anything to do with the Turkish government.</p>
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		<title>By: Kazo Aman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kazo Aman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*hand-picked by the Turkish government by the way</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*hand-picked by the Turkish government by the way</p>
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		<title>By: Kazo Aman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kazo Aman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One has to accept German laws?? No one should accept any law enforced by a country that involves censoring free speech.

The Danish government&#039;s decision should be respected because their investigation of clips from the TV station that were hand-picked concluded that there is no incitement when a TV station simply broadcasts what&#039;s actually happening in Turkey. (Just because Turkey wants to censor the truth doesnt mean Germany is right to help them do so.) Also, there is no no proof of any connection between the station and any group be in PKK or anything else so those statements by the German officials are just an outright lie being echoed from the Turkish regime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One has to accept German laws?? No one should accept any law enforced by a country that involves censoring free speech.</p>
<p>The Danish government&#8217;s decision should be respected because their investigation of clips from the TV station that were hand-picked concluded that there is no incitement when a TV station simply broadcasts what&#8217;s actually happening in Turkey. (Just because Turkey wants to censor the truth doesnt mean Germany is right to help them do so.) Also, there is no no proof of any connection between the station and any group be in PKK or anything else so those statements by the German officials are just an outright lie being echoed from the Turkish regime.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Columbus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Columbus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One should consider that Denmark has some of the most liberal free speech laws in the world. So just because something is lawful in Denmark that doesn&#039;t mean it is in Germany. That&#039;s why for instance German Nazi propaganda radio stations have fled to Denmark.

(I think the Danish laws are better, but one has to accept the German laws, too).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One should consider that Denmark has some of the most liberal free speech laws in the world. So just because something is lawful in Denmark that doesn&#8217;t mean it is in Germany. That&#8217;s why for instance German Nazi propaganda radio stations have fled to Denmark.</p>
<p>(I think the Danish laws are better, but one has to accept the German laws, too).</p>
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