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		<title>By: manar filisteen</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/07/16/sameer-quntar-arab-hero/#comment-20429</link>
		<dc:creator>manar filisteen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 01:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>o god wut i wrote was a vocabularicular mess,,, nt to mention a grammitical one as well :S i guess le2enni knt msta3jeleh,,, ndaria,,, girl from bahrain,,, wut kind of mentality is that!!!!!!!!!!!! there is no way in hell ur muslim, or even been around muslimz,,,, ndaria 3nnik,,, girl dnt talk on behalf of religion if u have no idea wut ur talkin abt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>o god wut i wrote was a vocabularicular mess,,, nt to mention a grammitical one as well :S i guess le2enni knt msta3jeleh,,, ndaria,,, girl from bahrain,,, wut kind of mentality is that!!!!!!!!!!!! there is no way in hell ur muslim, or even been around muslimz,,,, ndaria 3nnik,,, girl dnt talk on behalf of religion if u have no idea wut ur talkin abt</p>
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		<title>By: manar filisteen</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/07/16/sameer-quntar-arab-hero/#comment-20428</link>
		<dc:creator>manar filisteen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok fine, the girl died. so her blood is holy? wut abt our blood, what about the thousands of children who have died at the hands of the isrealis? what abt gaza? dammit,
 so we have to sympathize with the ppl that murdered us and drove us out of our homes?

o btw.... the girl, was killed accedently. the whole aim of the 3amaleyi was to capture jews and exchange them for arab prisoner. the girl died in an excahnge of fire between the group led by kintar and the isreali pigs. dont believe all that u read on the internet. theres a lot of things cooked up by isreali. o they dont have any problem lying. as we ve learned from the past.

o eish kman... o why it was such a victory, well, kasret mun5ar la isra2eel, hezbollah degraded isreal by the trade, they put there faces in the ground. isra2el didnt want to give up dalal al mughrabis body (which had been with them for 30 years) or the dozens of other, read abt dalal. ull understand whay it was such a joyous event, why zaman il7azamt wala.
ilhmdella o allah yzeed

salamz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok fine, the girl died. so her blood is holy? wut abt our blood, what about the thousands of children who have died at the hands of the isrealis? what abt gaza? dammit,<br />
 so we have to sympathize with the ppl that murdered us and drove us out of our homes?</p>
<p>o btw&#8230;. the girl, was killed accedently. the whole aim of the 3amaleyi was to capture jews and exchange them for arab prisoner. the girl died in an excahnge of fire between the group led by kintar and the isreali pigs. dont believe all that u read on the internet. theres a lot of things cooked up by isreali. o they dont have any problem lying. as we ve learned from the past.</p>
<p>o eish kman&#8230; o why it was such a victory, well, kasret mun5ar la isra2eel, hezbollah degraded isreal by the trade, they put there faces in the ground. isra2el didnt want to give up dalal al mughrabis body (which had been with them for 30 years) or the dozens of other, read abt dalal. ull understand whay it was such a joyous event, why zaman il7azamt wala.<br />
ilhmdella o allah yzeed</p>
<p>salamz</p>
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		<title>By: yaman</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/07/16/sameer-quntar-arab-hero/#comment-20427</link>
		<dc:creator>yaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Israel is a country which arrests Palestinians on a daily basis and holds them without charge for months, and often convicts them in secret trials without a fair procedure. Palestinian detainees are illegally transported into Israeli territory, and they are given limited access to lawyers, and are often harassed with their legal rights subverted in the process. Of course, Israel calls the entire population of Palestine terrorist, so I am not surprised that they would call Samir Quntar a terrorist. I like how the Israeli story, which for 30 years was based on NO PUBLIC DOCUMENTS FROM A COURT TRIAL, has always been given privilege over his own version, which is that he denies killing the girl and believes that the other was killed by Israeli fire. I don&#039;t even think there is enough information here to conclude that either version is correct, but arbitrarily accepting the Israeli version really reveals a lot about how much people trust the government with the least credibility in the world, when it comes to Palestine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel is a country which arrests Palestinians on a daily basis and holds them without charge for months, and often convicts them in secret trials without a fair procedure. Palestinian detainees are illegally transported into Israeli territory, and they are given limited access to lawyers, and are often harassed with their legal rights subverted in the process. Of course, Israel calls the entire population of Palestine terrorist, so I am not surprised that they would call Samir Quntar a terrorist. I like how the Israeli story, which for 30 years was based on NO PUBLIC DOCUMENTS FROM A COURT TRIAL, has always been given privilege over his own version, which is that he denies killing the girl and believes that the other was killed by Israeli fire. I don&#8217;t even think there is enough information here to conclude that either version is correct, but arbitrarily accepting the Israeli version really reveals a lot about how much people trust the government with the least credibility in the world, when it comes to Palestine.</p>
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		<title>By: Esra'a (Bahrain)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/07/16/sameer-quntar-arab-hero/#comment-20426</link>
		<dc:creator>Esra'a (Bahrain)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;that he is not proud of “crushing the skull of a 4-year-old girl.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
At the same time, he apparently does not regret it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>that he is not proud of “crushing the skull of a 4-year-old girl.”</p></blockquote>
<p>At the same time, he apparently does not regret it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mohammad Memarian (Iran)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mohammad Memarian (Iran)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miriam:

Thank you a lot. It&#039;s clear that he might have told a series of lies. however, its indeed a good thing that he is not proud of &quot;crushing the skull of a 4-year-old girl.&quot;

thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miriam:</p>
<p>Thank you a lot. It&#8217;s clear that he might have told a series of lies. however, its indeed a good thing that he is not proud of &#8220;crushing the skull of a 4-year-old girl.&#8221;</p>
<p>thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Miriam (Egypt/Israel/USA)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miriam (Egypt/Israel/USA)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Alternative Information Center has a full-scale article on the trial and conviction of Quntar based on declassified military court documents published by Yediot Ahronot &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.alternativenews.org/news/english/israel-hezbollah-prisoner-exchange-insecurity-grows-in-the-middle-east-20080716.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; Here is a sample:


&lt;blockquote&gt;According to the Kuntar’s declassified file, he reached Nahariya beach at 2:30 in the morning. &quot;We tied our boat to a rock,” he testified on January 6, 1980. “We had instructions to avoid opening fire, to take hostages and bring them to Lebanon. I was commander of the cell. I planned to knock on the door at one of the houses. Majeed and I walked towards the building. I told him to ring the bell but not to speak, because I planned to speak English with the people living there. When we went in, Majeed buzzed one of the apartments, and Majeed spoke to the woman in Arabic and she answered him in Hebrew. He made a mistake and she didn&#039;t open the door.”

He continues, “I then heard the sound of a car driving up and stopping... I opened fire, and then we went up to one of the apartments, where we pulled out a man and a girl so we could take them with us. I decided we should take the girl with us to ensure we would stay alive, and then return her from Lebanon to Israel via the Red Cross.

“While we were with them, shots were fired at us... I shot some rounds at those people with my Kalashnikov rifle and hit one of them; he went down. When I saw the boat had been hit... we tried to retreat by land and escape the gunfire coming our way... The army began an assault on us... I wanted to find a way to tell them to stop shooting at us, because our whole objective was to take hostages to Lebanon. But I didn&#039;t have a megaphone... I was hit by five bullets. Then [Danny] Haran got to his feet and signaled to the army forces with his hand to stop them from firing. He was hit by the bullets being shot at him by the soldiers. The five bullets that hit me struck sensitive places, so I lost a lot of blood and passed out. I didn&#039;t know what else was happening with me until I woke up in the morning and found myself in the military&#039;s hands. I didn&#039;t hurt the girl at all and I didn&#039;t see how she met her death.”

In court, prosecution witnesses testified that Kuntar killed Danny and Einat Haran. Kuntar and Ahmed Al Abras, a second guerrilla that survived the operation, were sentenced to life imprisonment without possibility of parole. However, Alabras was freed by Israel in the Ahmed Jibril prisoner exchange deal in May 1985 but Israel refused to release Kuntar, later stating that he may be released only in exchange for the missing Israeli Weapon System Officer, Ron Arad. Israel’s continuous refusal to release Kuntar during the many prisoner exchanges that have since occurred made him a symbol for the Palestinian and Lebanese resistance, and his release became an objective for Hezbollah. &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Alternative Information Center has a full-scale article on the trial and conviction of Quntar based on declassified military court documents published by Yediot Ahronot <a href="http://www.alternativenews.org/news/english/israel-hezbollah-prisoner-exchange-insecurity-grows-in-the-middle-east-20080716.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> Here is a sample:</p>
<blockquote><p>According to the Kuntar’s declassified file, he reached Nahariya beach at 2:30 in the morning. &#8220;We tied our boat to a rock,” he testified on January 6, 1980. “We had instructions to avoid opening fire, to take hostages and bring them to Lebanon. I was commander of the cell. I planned to knock on the door at one of the houses. Majeed and I walked towards the building. I told him to ring the bell but not to speak, because I planned to speak English with the people living there. When we went in, Majeed buzzed one of the apartments, and Majeed spoke to the woman in Arabic and she answered him in Hebrew. He made a mistake and she didn&#8217;t open the door.”</p>
<p>He continues, “I then heard the sound of a car driving up and stopping&#8230; I opened fire, and then we went up to one of the apartments, where we pulled out a man and a girl so we could take them with us. I decided we should take the girl with us to ensure we would stay alive, and then return her from Lebanon to Israel via the Red Cross.</p>
<p>“While we were with them, shots were fired at us&#8230; I shot some rounds at those people with my Kalashnikov rifle and hit one of them; he went down. When I saw the boat had been hit&#8230; we tried to retreat by land and escape the gunfire coming our way&#8230; The army began an assault on us&#8230; I wanted to find a way to tell them to stop shooting at us, because our whole objective was to take hostages to Lebanon. But I didn&#8217;t have a megaphone&#8230; I was hit by five bullets. Then [Danny] Haran got to his feet and signaled to the army forces with his hand to stop them from firing. He was hit by the bullets being shot at him by the soldiers. The five bullets that hit me struck sensitive places, so I lost a lot of blood and passed out. I didn&#8217;t know what else was happening with me until I woke up in the morning and found myself in the military&#8217;s hands. I didn&#8217;t hurt the girl at all and I didn&#8217;t see how she met her death.”</p>
<p>In court, prosecution witnesses testified that Kuntar killed Danny and Einat Haran. Kuntar and Ahmed Al Abras, a second guerrilla that survived the operation, were sentenced to life imprisonment without possibility of parole. However, Alabras was freed by Israel in the Ahmed Jibril prisoner exchange deal in May 1985 but Israel refused to release Kuntar, later stating that he may be released only in exchange for the missing Israeli Weapon System Officer, Ron Arad. Israel’s continuous refusal to release Kuntar during the many prisoner exchanges that have since occurred made him a symbol for the Palestinian and Lebanese resistance, and his release became an objective for Hezbollah. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Esra'a (Bahrain)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esra'a (Bahrain)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS:
&lt;blockquote&gt;i am Sunni and i’d vote blindly to Nasrllah if he is running for the Arab world presidency.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It is hilarious that you cannot see the steaming irony in this foolish statement, the key word being &lt;strong&gt;&quot;blindly.&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; I wouldn&#039;t put it past you to go after a blind, uninformed, terrorist-driven mission. You even unintentionally admitted that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS:</p>
<blockquote><p>i am Sunni and i’d vote blindly to Nasrllah if he is running for the Arab world presidency.</p></blockquote>
<p>It is hilarious that you cannot see the steaming irony in this foolish statement, the key word being <strong>&#8220;blindly.&#8221;</strong> I wouldn&#8217;t put it past you to go after a blind, uninformed, terrorist-driven mission. You even unintentionally admitted that.</p>
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		<title>By: Esra'a (Bahrain)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/07/16/sameer-quntar-arab-hero/#comment-20422</link>
		<dc:creator>Esra'a (Bahrain)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rocco/Spanky,

The way you address others is truly shameful. This concerns the second comment that you posted here, which will not appear in this thread.

For as long as you post on this website, you WILL respect others, and you will NOT publish provocative and childish insults. All posts here go under moderation if there are more than one links in it; this is a technical issue with the platform that we are using, so do not dare once again insult this forum and its moderation team and cluelessly complain about &quot;censorship.&quot; If you continue to address people in this despicable and aggressive manner, your comments will be deleted. Read our comment policy and if you don&#039;t like it, go post in Al Manar website or somewhere that welcomes your aggression, hatred, and petty insults.

There are plenty other Muslims including Sunnis who blindly follow any leader who appears to be influential and well-funded, this doesn&#039;t prove anything other than we are a nation of sheep. People who do not follow the zombie sheep herders are considered &quot;criminals,&quot; like Kareem. I don&#039;t care who supports Hezbollah! I have my own opinions and values, unlike you. I do not just blindly follow whoever you deem an &quot;activist.&quot;

If you want extremism and terrorism, and murderous leaders who thrive on such disgusting violence, you are free to do that while risking true freedom, and the lives of the younger generation. It seems that you did not learn your lesson yet, but soon you will. When Hezbollah turns against their own Muslim brothers and sisters, you might gain the sanity to understand what they really represent. I promise you that he will come after us, he has already begun terrorizing and raising a generation of murderers and extremists. And with their leadership we will find nothing but bloodshed, racism, censorship, and war. This is what you want. By justifying and hating people like Kareem, and by hatefully insulting anyone who disagrees with you at every opportunity, this is essentially what you want, and yet you claim to be a real Muslim? Laughable.

I assure you, there are more youth going after true freedom achieved through peaceful resistance, tolerance, and the respect of human rights, rather than the terrorism that you and your ilk support. And in the end we will be the ones who win this struggle, not you. Understand this. In the coming years you and your self-acclaimed heroes will be powerless.

Calling someone like Kareem &quot;disgusting&quot; is expected of someone with your mentality.

Unlike Nasrallah, Kareem never murdered anyone. He simply fought for the right to express his opinion, and you hate that.

But that makes him a hero. Bite on your tongue with envy! This will never change. You are the laughing stock of the real freedom fighters. And that hateful, fear-mongering terrorist Nasrallah will be your downfall. Just watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rocco/Spanky,</p>
<p>The way you address others is truly shameful. This concerns the second comment that you posted here, which will not appear in this thread.</p>
<p>For as long as you post on this website, you WILL respect others, and you will NOT publish provocative and childish insults. All posts here go under moderation if there are more than one links in it; this is a technical issue with the platform that we are using, so do not dare once again insult this forum and its moderation team and cluelessly complain about &#8220;censorship.&#8221; If you continue to address people in this despicable and aggressive manner, your comments will be deleted. Read our comment policy and if you don&#8217;t like it, go post in Al Manar website or somewhere that welcomes your aggression, hatred, and petty insults.</p>
<p>There are plenty other Muslims including Sunnis who blindly follow any leader who appears to be influential and well-funded, this doesn&#8217;t prove anything other than we are a nation of sheep. People who do not follow the zombie sheep herders are considered &#8220;criminals,&#8221; like Kareem. I don&#8217;t care who supports Hezbollah! I have my own opinions and values, unlike you. I do not just blindly follow whoever you deem an &#8220;activist.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you want extremism and terrorism, and murderous leaders who thrive on such disgusting violence, you are free to do that while risking true freedom, and the lives of the younger generation. It seems that you did not learn your lesson yet, but soon you will. When Hezbollah turns against their own Muslim brothers and sisters, you might gain the sanity to understand what they really represent. I promise you that he will come after us, he has already begun terrorizing and raising a generation of murderers and extremists. And with their leadership we will find nothing but bloodshed, racism, censorship, and war. This is what you want. By justifying and hating people like Kareem, and by hatefully insulting anyone who disagrees with you at every opportunity, this is essentially what you want, and yet you claim to be a real Muslim? Laughable.</p>
<p>I assure you, there are more youth going after true freedom achieved through peaceful resistance, tolerance, and the respect of human rights, rather than the terrorism that you and your ilk support. And in the end we will be the ones who win this struggle, not you. Understand this. In the coming years you and your self-acclaimed heroes will be powerless.</p>
<p>Calling someone like Kareem &#8220;disgusting&#8221; is expected of someone with your mentality.</p>
<p>Unlike Nasrallah, Kareem never murdered anyone. He simply fought for the right to express his opinion, and you hate that.</p>
<p>But that makes him a hero. Bite on your tongue with envy! This will never change. You are the laughing stock of the real freedom fighters. And that hateful, fear-mongering terrorist Nasrallah will be your downfall. Just watch.</p>
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		<title>By: Nissim Dahan (Israel/USA)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nissim Dahan (Israel/USA)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mohammad,

I&#039;m going to need a lot of luck, and a little bit of help, from good people such as yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mohammad,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to need a lot of luck, and a little bit of help, from good people such as yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Mohammad Memarian (Iran)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/07/16/sameer-quntar-arab-hero/#comment-20420</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohammad Memarian (Iran)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nissim:

When I speak of an ever-lasting peace followed by reviving stagnant economies et al, I mean that such acts can&#039;t bring about peace for they don&#039;t remove the real &#039;cause&#039; of conflict. As stated above, I think that the real cause of conflict is a state pursuing superiority while neglecting the rights a superior power has to observe. I think that Hizbullah has a base in between people (ordinary people… no labeling), and you don&#039;t think so. I think that the current policy of Israel will give rise to more Hizbullahs, and you believe otherwise. It&#039;s done: We disagree; and it seems that we can make our positions no more clear than this. Though, I still respect your peace-loving arguments. Good luck with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sellingavisionofhope.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;selling a vision of hope&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nissim:</p>
<p>When I speak of an ever-lasting peace followed by reviving stagnant economies et al, I mean that such acts can&#8217;t bring about peace for they don&#8217;t remove the real &#8217;cause&#8217; of conflict. As stated above, I think that the real cause of conflict is a state pursuing superiority while neglecting the rights a superior power has to observe. I think that Hizbullah has a base in between people (ordinary people… no labeling), and you don&#8217;t think so. I think that the current policy of Israel will give rise to more Hizbullahs, and you believe otherwise. It&#8217;s done: We disagree; and it seems that we can make our positions no more clear than this. Though, I still respect your peace-loving arguments. Good luck with <a href="http://www.sellingavisionofhope.org/" rel="nofollow">selling a vision of hope</a>.</p>
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