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> <channel><title>Comments on: Gender Division</title> <atom:link href="http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/09/09/gender-division/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/09/09/gender-division/</link> <description>Promoting a fierce but respectful dialogue among the highly diverse youth of the Middle East</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 07:05:20 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: tarikur</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/09/09/gender-division/#comment-210029</link> <dc:creator>tarikur</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:27:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/09/09/gender-division/#comment-210029</guid> <description>Jahanshah Rashidian,It is troubling to me that how much you buy into propaganda. Who are you? I bet you have never spoken an Iranian woman.Why is sex segregation is such a bad thing. Most women around the world would love to be sex segregated in some places and some situations. Do you know how many women get sexually felt on in crowded trains or buses in America. This problem is worse in other countries like India. Sometime females are much smarter and more independent when they segregated. For example, all female college produce much brighter and more independent females than coed colleges.Why do you think most Islamist don&#039;t think female as equal? Nearly all Islamist that I have known believe that females are equal to male but they have different role.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jahanshah Rashidian,</p><p>It is troubling to me that how much you buy into propaganda. Who are you? I bet you have never spoken an Iranian woman.</p><p>Why is sex segregation is such a bad thing. Most women around the world would love to be sex segregated in some places and some situations. Do you know how many women get sexually felt on in crowded trains or buses in America. This problem is worse in other countries like India. Sometime females are much smarter and more independent when they segregated. For example, all female college produce much brighter and more independent females than coed colleges.</p><p>Why do you think most Islamist don&#8217;t think female as equal? Nearly all Islamist that I have known believe that females are equal to male but they have different role.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: bloke</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/09/09/gender-division/#comment-209603</link> <dc:creator>bloke</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:00:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/09/09/gender-division/#comment-209603</guid> <description>[quote]Mullahs are not different from Taliban, both cliques are misogynist and backward. The only difference is due to the socio-cultural expectations of nations. While Mullahs and Taliban are both brutal, Iranian women resisted more than Afghan women–with of course a very higher price. Only because of such a resistance a total social exclusion of Iranian women faills to happen.[/quote]No there is a huge difference between the Iranian clergymen and the Taliban. You&#039;re putting it in simplistic terms. Firstly, you cannot deny the fact that the Taliban were a lot more brutal towards women than the ayatollahs were. I live in Sydney, where there is a sizable population of Afghan Shi&#039;as who happen to be of the Hazara ethnicity, and I have spoken to them on their accounts of the Taliban and they informed me that they would have rather lived in Iran as women than under the Taliban. You see, the Taliban, unlike the Iranian ayatollahs whom you exonerate, have demonstrated their intent to keep females uneducated, even if it means beheading teachers who dare to teach girls and burning girls&#039; schools. No such thing occurs in Iran, and no Shi&#039;a clergymen would tolerate that. Second, you made the dubious claim that Iranian women resisted more than Afghani women, and to that I spit on your claim. You know why? Because what Iranian women have struggled, do not hold a candle to what Afghani women have gone through. Why don&#039;t you go ask members of RAWA and tell them your view that Iranian women resisted more than Afghani women and they would scold you for that ridiculous assertion.And finally, tell me if anything from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rawa.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;RAWA&lt;/a&gt; and this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hazara.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;site&lt;/a&gt; you find comparable to what the Iranian government is doing.But then again, I&#039;m sure due to your simplistic notion that both of them are the same, you&#039;d mostly assume that the Taliban and Iran are working together, and I find that amusing.Cheers.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote]Mullahs are not different from Taliban, both cliques are misogynist and backward. The only difference is due to the socio-cultural expectations of nations. While Mullahs and Taliban are both brutal, Iranian women resisted more than Afghan women–with of course a very higher price. Only because of such a resistance a total social exclusion of Iranian women faills to happen.[/quote]</p><p>No there is a huge difference between the Iranian clergymen and the Taliban. You&#8217;re putting it in simplistic terms. Firstly, you cannot deny the fact that the Taliban were a lot more brutal towards women than the ayatollahs were. I live in Sydney, where there is a sizable population of Afghan Shi&#8217;as who happen to be of the Hazara ethnicity, and I have spoken to them on their accounts of the Taliban and they informed me that they would have rather lived in Iran as women than under the Taliban. You see, the Taliban, unlike the Iranian ayatollahs whom you exonerate, have demonstrated their intent to keep females uneducated, even if it means beheading teachers who dare to teach girls and burning girls&#8217; schools. No such thing occurs in Iran, and no Shi&#8217;a clergymen would tolerate that. Second, you made the dubious claim that Iranian women resisted more than Afghani women, and to that I spit on your claim. You know why? Because what Iranian women have struggled, do not hold a candle to what Afghani women have gone through. Why don&#8217;t you go ask members of RAWA and tell them your view that Iranian women resisted more than Afghani women and they would scold you for that ridiculous assertion.</p><p>And finally, tell me if anything from <a
href="http://www.rawa.org" rel="nofollow">RAWA</a> and this <a
href="http://www.hazara.net" rel="nofollow">site</a> you find comparable to what the Iranian government is doing.</p><p>But then again, I&#8217;m sure due to your simplistic notion that both of them are the same, you&#8217;d mostly assume that the Taliban and Iran are working together, and I find that amusing.</p><p>Cheers.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jahanshah Rashidian</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/09/09/gender-division/#comment-209497</link> <dc:creator>Jahanshah Rashidian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 08:02:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/09/09/gender-division/#comment-209497</guid> <description>Esra&#039;a, Tarikur, and Bloke.Firstly, thans for your comments and mutal debates over the topic.As mentioned, discrimination against women is not limited to Mullahs; all fundamentalists, including Taliban, are to tighten the noose round women’s freedom and equality.Mullahs are not different from Taliban, both cliques are misogynist and backward. The only difference is due to the socio-cultural expectations of nations. While Mullahs and Taliban are both brutal, Iranian women resisted more than Afghan women--with of course a very higher price. Only because of such a resistance a total social exclusion of Iranian women faills to happen.For example: Family Protection Bill, favouring more polygamy, proposed by Ahmadinejad’s gov. to Majlis was massively protested by Iranian women and human rights organisations. Because of this resistance, the bill was not finally passed.Ahmadinejad tended to impose strict measures of sex separation in many domains of public life— plans are under way for single-sex hospitals and women-only public transport.... Mullahs claim the effect will be a more moral and Islamic society, but most educated women, who are thorns in the eyes of Mullahs, warn that the moves are aimed at curbing women&#039;s participation in public life. And since these measures have misogynistic characters, are detested and rejected by most women.No Islamist, hardliner or reformist, believes in sex equality; even the &quot;reformist&quot; Mr. Abol-Hassan Banisadr, the first IRI’s President, who has lived most of his life in France, confirmed that &quot;the female hair radiates something which acts on the male brain.”Women in Iran, Afghanistan, Sudan,... under any form of Islamic regime have the same yoke on the neck. Only some of them can cry out loud.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Esra&#8217;a, Tarikur, and Bloke.</p><p>Firstly, thans for your comments and mutal debates over the topic.</p><p>As mentioned, discrimination against women is not limited to Mullahs; all fundamentalists, including Taliban, are to tighten the noose round women’s freedom and equality.</p><p>Mullahs are not different from Taliban, both cliques are misogynist and backward. The only difference is due to the socio-cultural expectations of nations. While Mullahs and Taliban are both brutal, Iranian women resisted more than Afghan women&#8211;with of course a very higher price. Only because of such a resistance a total social exclusion of Iranian women faills to happen.</p><p>For example: Family Protection Bill, favouring more polygamy, proposed by Ahmadinejad’s gov. to Majlis was massively protested by Iranian women and human rights organisations. Because of this resistance, the bill was not finally passed.</p><p>Ahmadinejad tended to impose strict measures of sex separation in many domains of public life— plans are under way for single-sex hospitals and women-only public transport&#8230;. Mullahs claim the effect will be a more moral and Islamic society, but most educated women, who are thorns in the eyes of Mullahs, warn that the moves are aimed at curbing women&#8217;s participation in public life. And since these measures have misogynistic characters, are detested and rejected by most women.</p><p>No Islamist, hardliner or reformist, believes in sex equality; even the &#8220;reformist&#8221; Mr. Abol-Hassan Banisadr, the first IRI’s President, who has lived most of his life in France, confirmed that &#8220;the female hair radiates something which acts on the male brain.”</p><p>Women in Iran, Afghanistan, Sudan,&#8230; under any form of Islamic regime have the same yoke on the neck. Only some of them can cry out loud.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: bloke</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/09/09/gender-division/#comment-209111</link> <dc:creator>bloke</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:06:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/09/09/gender-division/#comment-209111</guid> <description>&quot;Every other day thousands of Iranian women are risking their lives by protesting for more human rights through articles, peaceful rallies, campaigning against stoning, wrongful imprisonment, et al. And that’s what millions of Iranians themselves are telling us every day, not the Western media.&quot;Yet Afghani women fled to Iran from the Taliban to take advantage of basic human rights long denied to them by the Taliban.What do you say about that? Surely you do not assert that the Iranian women suffer as much as the Afghani women did under the Taliban, because that would be simply untrue.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Every other day thousands of Iranian women are risking their lives by protesting for more human rights through articles, peaceful rallies, campaigning against stoning, wrongful imprisonment, et al. And that’s what millions of Iranians themselves are telling us every day, not the Western media.&#8221;</p><p>Yet Afghani women fled to Iran from the Taliban to take advantage of basic human rights long denied to them by the Taliban.</p><p>What do you say about that? Surely you do not assert that the Iranian women suffer as much as the Afghani women did under the Taliban, because that would be simply untrue.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Friday Links &#8212; September 12, 2008 &#171; Muslimah Media Watch</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/09/09/gender-division/#comment-208503</link> <dc:creator>Friday Links &#8212; September 12, 2008 &#171; Muslimah Media Watch</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:04:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/09/09/gender-division/#comment-208503</guid> <description>[...] MidEast Youth&#8217;s Jahanshah Rashidian outlines Iran&#8217;s gender segregation and its history. [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] MidEast Youth&#8217;s Jahanshah Rashidian outlines Iran&#8217;s gender segregation and its history. [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: tarikur</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/09/09/gender-division/#comment-207904</link> <dc:creator>tarikur</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:58:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/09/09/gender-division/#comment-207904</guid> <description>Esra&#039;a (Bahrain),You have to be kidding me.Every single protest with few people makes a big headline in the West. Iranian woman are free to vote, who makes up 50% of the voting population. If so many Iranian people are against the regime, why does Iranian people keep voting radical conservatives in the government.Why does woman has to compaign against stoning when equal amount of the people who get stoned are men.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Esra&#8217;a (Bahrain),</p><p>You have to be kidding me.</p><p>Every single protest with few people makes a big headline in the West. Iranian woman are free to vote, who makes up 50% of the voting population. If so many Iranian people are against the regime, why does Iranian people keep voting radical conservatives in the government.</p><p>Why does woman has to compaign against stoning when equal amount of the people who get stoned are men.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Esra'a (Bahrain)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/09/09/gender-division/#comment-207743</link> <dc:creator>Esra'a (Bahrain)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:25:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/09/09/gender-division/#comment-207743</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How do you know women are oppressed in Iran? Because Western media tell you&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You have to be kidding me.Every other day thousands of Iranian women are risking their lives by protesting for more human rights through articles, peaceful rallies, campaigning against stoning, wrongful imprisonment, et al. And that&#039;s what millions of Iranians themselves are telling us every day, not the Western media.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How do you know women are oppressed in Iran? Because Western media tell you</p></blockquote><p>You have to be kidding me.</p><p>Every other day thousands of Iranian women are risking their lives by protesting for more human rights through articles, peaceful rallies, campaigning against stoning, wrongful imprisonment, et al. And that&#8217;s what millions of Iranians themselves are telling us every day, not the Western media.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: tarikur</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/09/09/gender-division/#comment-207605</link> <dc:creator>tarikur</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 04:14:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/09/09/gender-division/#comment-207605</guid> <description>Jahanshah Rashidian and othersHow do you know women are oppressed in Iran? Because Western media tell you and interview small minority of women that are opposed to the regime.75% of the university students are woman, they have good jobs.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jahanshah Rashidian and others</p><p>How do you know women are oppressed in Iran? Because Western media tell you and interview small minority of women that are opposed to the regime.</p><p>75% of the university students are woman, they have good jobs.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jahanshah Rashidian</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/09/09/gender-division/#comment-206854</link> <dc:creator>Jahanshah Rashidian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:52:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/09/09/gender-division/#comment-206854</guid> <description>HassWomen park is simply a portrait of gender division in Iran. I actually focused on the roots and philosophy of the issue rather than the daily events, including all related plights women suffer from. These were off-topic in this piece. The woman&#039;s &quot;advantages&quot; in Iran you mentioned are the false propaganda of regime run media. The plight of Iranian women under Sharia biding laws are worse than regurgitating such cheap propaganda.I was astonished by lack of your knowledge to how political Islam importunes people of Iran, especially women. If Iranian, apparently you are a naive lad on this site, if not a hezbollahi, because you are not aware of women&#039;s situation in Iran. You fanatically ignore or make deaf ear to the individual freedom that people and specially women require in iran.
The Moronically Misogynistic Mullahs sustain themselves on Iranian nation with the help of some repressive organs, not free will of people.
Please inform yourself that an increasing majority of Iranians reject these freak Mullahs and do not share their sharia biding regime, therefore, exactly thus, the regime has to commit any crime to survive.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hass</p><p>Women park is simply a portrait of gender division in Iran. I actually focused on the roots and philosophy of the issue rather than the daily events, including all related plights women suffer from. These were off-topic in this piece. The woman&#8217;s &#8220;advantages&#8221; in Iran you mentioned are the false propaganda of regime run media. The plight of Iranian women under Sharia biding laws are worse than regurgitating such cheap propaganda.</p><p>I was astonished by lack of your knowledge to how political Islam importunes people of Iran, especially women. If Iranian, apparently you are a naive lad on this site, if not a hezbollahi, because you are not aware of women&#8217;s situation in Iran. You fanatically ignore or make deaf ear to the individual freedom that people and specially women require in iran.</p><p>The Moronically Misogynistic Mullahs sustain themselves on Iranian nation with the help of some repressive organs, not free will of people.<br
/> Please inform yourself that an increasing majority of Iranians reject these freak Mullahs and do not share their sharia biding regime, therefore, exactly thus, the regime has to commit any crime to survive.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: hass</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/09/09/gender-division/#comment-206249</link> <dc:creator>hass</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:54:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/09/09/gender-division/#comment-206249</guid> <description>Women in Iran are no better educated than ever, they are just as well-represented in the work place as before the revolution, they have access to better health care, they live longer, and their kids have less infant mortality.And here you are concerned about a woman&#039;s only park.Obviously, YOUR priorities are not THEIR priorities.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Women in Iran are no better educated than ever, they are just as well-represented in the work place as before the revolution, they have access to better health care, they live longer, and their kids have less infant mortality.</p><p>And here you are concerned about a woman&#8217;s only park.</p><p>Obviously, YOUR priorities are not THEIR priorities.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: hass</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/09/09/gender-division/#comment-206245</link> <dc:creator>hass</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:52:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/09/09/gender-division/#comment-206245</guid> <description>in George Street, SYNDEY</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in George Street, SYNDEY</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: hass</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/09/09/gender-division/#comment-206244</link> <dc:creator>hass</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:52:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/09/09/gender-division/#comment-206244</guid> <description>There&#039;s a women-only car park in George Street, and a few women only beaches in Italy, and a woman-only park in secular Turkey. And most of the women prefer it that way.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a women-only car park in George Street, and a few women only beaches in Italy, and a woman-only park in secular Turkey. And most of the women prefer it that way.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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