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		<title>By: Esra'a (Bahrain)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/09/on-obama-and-tempering-skepticism/#comment-21574</link>
		<dc:creator>Esra'a (Bahrain)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Rahm’s dad was in the Irgun, under battle conditions related to the founding of the State of Israel. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Irgun is documented as a &lt;a href=&quot;http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F30B12FC3D591B7B93C6AB1789D95F428485F9&amp;scp=13&amp;sq=Irgun+terrorist+president&amp;st=p&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;terrorist organization&quot;&lt;/a&gt; and it would be incorrect to associate them with anything else other than terrorism. It doesn&#039;t seem that his father&#039;s aggressive opinions proves otherwise.

It was good Rahm apologized, which came after the Arab American community expressed deep outrage over his father&#039;s dim-witted attitude. It&#039;s also nice to see others claiming that Rahm apparently will have little to do with forming foreign policy decisions, even though it&#039;s hard to believe considering the fact that he&#039;s one of Obama&#039;s &quot;closest advisers,&quot; but at least many people seem to be aware of his overwhelming bias towards Israel and find that troubling.

Real change will come during Obama&#039;s 2nd term in office, if he ever gets re-elected. At the moment we can expect and hope for significant improvenments, but not the &quot;change&quot; we&#039;re waiting for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Rahm’s dad was in the Irgun, under battle conditions related to the founding of the State of Israel. </p></blockquote>
<p>Irgun is documented as a <a href="http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F30B12FC3D591B7B93C6AB1789D95F428485F9&#038;scp=13&#038;sq=Irgun+terrorist+president&#038;st=p" rel="nofollow">&#8220;terrorist organization&#8221;</a> and it would be incorrect to associate them with anything else other than terrorism. It doesn&#8217;t seem that his father&#8217;s aggressive opinions proves otherwise.</p>
<p>It was good Rahm apologized, which came after the Arab American community expressed deep outrage over his father&#8217;s dim-witted attitude. It&#8217;s also nice to see others claiming that Rahm apparently will have little to do with forming foreign policy decisions, even though it&#8217;s hard to believe considering the fact that he&#8217;s one of Obama&#8217;s &#8220;closest advisers,&#8221; but at least many people seem to be aware of his overwhelming bias towards Israel and find that troubling.</p>
<p>Real change will come during Obama&#8217;s 2nd term in office, if he ever gets re-elected. At the moment we can expect and hope for significant improvenments, but not the &#8220;change&#8221; we&#8217;re waiting for.</p>
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		<title>By: Nissim Dahan (Israel/USA)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/09/on-obama-and-tempering-skepticism/#comment-21573</link>
		<dc:creator>Nissim Dahan (Israel/USA)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is very possible that Rahm Emanuel&#039;s attitudes with respect to the Middle East are substantially different from those of his father&#039;s generation. They grew up in different times, and under different circumstances. Rahm&#039;s dad was in the Irgun, under battle conditions related to the founding of the State of Israel. Rahm has probably benefited from new perspectives which evolve over the passage of time and distance. This is common of many of us separated by a generation from our parents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very possible that Rahm Emanuel&#8217;s attitudes with respect to the Middle East are substantially different from those of his father&#8217;s generation. They grew up in different times, and under different circumstances. Rahm&#8217;s dad was in the Irgun, under battle conditions related to the founding of the State of Israel. Rahm has probably benefited from new perspectives which evolve over the passage of time and distance. This is common of many of us separated by a generation from our parents.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica M. (USA)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/09/on-obama-and-tempering-skepticism/#comment-21572</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica M. (USA)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rahm Emanuel has apologized for his Father&#039;s comments about Arabs:  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/us_elections_2008/7729046.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rahm Emanuel has apologized for his Father&#8217;s comments about Arabs:  <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/us_elections_2008/7729046.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/us_elections_2008/7729046.stm</a></p>
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		<title>By: eric/canada</title>
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		<dc:creator>eric/canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The tone of these posts follows pretty much the same question:  will an Obama administration distance itself from Israel (and, as Esra&#039;a noted, Turkey)in order to advance the general cause of peace in the Middle East?  I would say the answer is no, certainly not on any scale that would put pressure on Israel to reverse any of the practices and projects (wall building, settlements, land grabs, the prison-camp atmosphere of Palestine) that all of it&#039;s neighbors find repugnant.  If anything, I would expect that an Obama administration will largely ignore the Israeli question in the Middle East for much of it&#039;s first term, concentrating on domestic issues, Iraq and Afghanistan.  It may be an unpleasant reality that also sees the US distance itself from it&#039;s other important ally in the region over the course of it&#039;s first term: Saudi Arabia.
The issues building between these two nations in terms of commerce, energy and ideology far outweigh the external pressure that supporting Israel has, and an Obama administration will have few of the petroleum links that rendered the Republicans unable to admit to the role their &quot;pal&quot; has been playing in the last decade.
Change will certainly come, but not nessecarily what many people will imagine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tone of these posts follows pretty much the same question:  will an Obama administration distance itself from Israel (and, as Esra&#8217;a noted, Turkey)in order to advance the general cause of peace in the Middle East?  I would say the answer is no, certainly not on any scale that would put pressure on Israel to reverse any of the practices and projects (wall building, settlements, land grabs, the prison-camp atmosphere of Palestine) that all of it&#8217;s neighbors find repugnant.  If anything, I would expect that an Obama administration will largely ignore the Israeli question in the Middle East for much of it&#8217;s first term, concentrating on domestic issues, Iraq and Afghanistan.  It may be an unpleasant reality that also sees the US distance itself from it&#8217;s other important ally in the region over the course of it&#8217;s first term: Saudi Arabia.<br />
The issues building between these two nations in terms of commerce, energy and ideology far outweigh the external pressure that supporting Israel has, and an Obama administration will have few of the petroleum links that rendered the Republicans unable to admit to the role their &#8220;pal&#8221; has been playing in the last decade.<br />
Change will certainly come, but not nessecarily what many people will imagine.</p>
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		<title>By: Nissim Dahan (Israel/USA)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nissim Dahan (Israel/USA)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I often wondered how it was that Menachem Begin, of all people, was able to negotiate a peace deal with President Sadat, of Egypt. After all, Begin was the leader of the Irgun in Israel, a group that used some questionable tactics to drive the British out. In many ways he was the embodiment of the conservative right. And yet, when Sadat made some promising overtures, Begin was able, perhaps because of his right wing credentials, to cut a deal.

Obama may need people like Rahm to get the job of peace done. He will have to ally himself, at least to some extent, with strong supporters of Israel, in order to gain the credibility to make something happen on the ground. He will also have to make some credible overtures to the Arab world in order to make real the promise of a better day. It is a difficult balancing act, to say the least, but sometimes you have to partner with people who may not exemplify your highest ideals, in order to have any chance of giving substance to those very same ideals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often wondered how it was that Menachem Begin, of all people, was able to negotiate a peace deal with President Sadat, of Egypt. After all, Begin was the leader of the Irgun in Israel, a group that used some questionable tactics to drive the British out. In many ways he was the embodiment of the conservative right. And yet, when Sadat made some promising overtures, Begin was able, perhaps because of his right wing credentials, to cut a deal.</p>
<p>Obama may need people like Rahm to get the job of peace done. He will have to ally himself, at least to some extent, with strong supporters of Israel, in order to gain the credibility to make something happen on the ground. He will also have to make some credible overtures to the Arab world in order to make real the promise of a better day. It is a difficult balancing act, to say the least, but sometimes you have to partner with people who may not exemplify your highest ideals, in order to have any chance of giving substance to those very same ideals.</p>
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		<title>By: Kawthar (Sudan)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/09/on-obama-and-tempering-skepticism/#comment-21569</link>
		<dc:creator>Kawthar (Sudan)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I truly hope that people have realistic expectations of what Obama can achieve during his first term in office. Otherwise, come 2012, we might find ourselves with &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/us_elections_2008/7721272.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Palin in the White House&lt;/a&gt;.


&lt;blockquote&gt;In a wide-ranging interview with Fox News, the 44-year-old said: &quot;I&#039;m like, OK, God, if there is an open door for me somewhere, this is what I always pray, I&#039;m like, don&#039;t let me miss the open door. Show me where the open door is.&quot;

&quot;And if there is an open door in [20]12 or four years later, and if it is something that is going to be good for my family, for my state, for my nation, an opportunity for me, then I&#039;ll plough through that door.&quot;  &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I truly hope that people have realistic expectations of what Obama can achieve during his first term in office. Otherwise, come 2012, we might find ourselves with <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/us_elections_2008/7721272.stm" rel="nofollow">Palin in the White House</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>In a wide-ranging interview with Fox News, the 44-year-old said: &#8220;I&#8217;m like, OK, God, if there is an open door for me somewhere, this is what I always pray, I&#8217;m like, don&#8217;t let me miss the open door. Show me where the open door is.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;And if there is an open door in [20]12 or four years later, and if it is something that is going to be good for my family, for my state, for my nation, an opportunity for me, then I&#8217;ll plough through that door.&#8221;  </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Esra'a (Bahrain)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/09/on-obama-and-tempering-skepticism/#comment-21568</link>
		<dc:creator>Esra'a (Bahrain)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, just when I thought I&#039;d give Rahm another chance, it has been revealed that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/10/11/america/11prexy.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;he doesn&#039;t recognize the Armenian genocide.&lt;/a&gt;

I am sorry, but this guy is just too extreme for my tastes, and I&#039;m still disappointed with his appointment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, just when I thought I&#8217;d give Rahm another chance, it has been revealed that <a href="http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/10/11/america/11prexy.php" rel="nofollow">he doesn&#8217;t recognize the Armenian genocide.</a></p>
<p>I am sorry, but this guy is just too extreme for my tastes, and I&#8217;m still disappointed with his appointment.</p>
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		<title>By: Esra'a (Bahrain)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/09/on-obama-and-tempering-skepticism/#comment-21567</link>
		<dc:creator>Esra'a (Bahrain)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 06:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points Tamara. It was really stupid of me to had jumped to that conclusion, but Rahm still doesn&#039;t have the best reputation, then again who does? Another commenter noted that Obama chose him because they were fellow Chicago politicians and apparently longtime friends. I wonder what would happen to America if Obama&#039;s staff included Arab Americans, and not just Israeli Americans. I wish he would take such a courageous step in including foreign policy advisers whose bias towards Israel isn&#039;t overwhelming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points Tamara. It was really stupid of me to had jumped to that conclusion, but Rahm still doesn&#8217;t have the best reputation, then again who does? Another commenter noted that Obama chose him because they were fellow Chicago politicians and apparently longtime friends. I wonder what would happen to America if Obama&#8217;s staff included Arab Americans, and not just Israeli Americans. I wish he would take such a courageous step in including foreign policy advisers whose bias towards Israel isn&#8217;t overwhelming.</p>
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		<title>By: Tamara (Syria, UAE &#38; UK)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tamara (Syria, UAE &#38; UK)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that it is unfair to judge Rahm on the basis of what his father has said. I can not say I know a great deal about the man, but to simply pressume he accepts what his father says is unfair (I mean do you accept and believe all of your parents&#039; views?). I do beleive we should wait to see if and what he will say in response to this.

I think the election of Obama is a wonderful thing. And undoubtedly Obama will make certain decisions that will not please us entirely. But the very fact that more nations are going to be willing to talk to him is extremely important and extremely positive. I certainly feel a sense that there is more hope for the world now. I feel proud for America and its people. I will never forget the way the world celebrated on election night and how it brought grown men to tears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that it is unfair to judge Rahm on the basis of what his father has said. I can not say I know a great deal about the man, but to simply pressume he accepts what his father says is unfair (I mean do you accept and believe all of your parents&#8217; views?). I do beleive we should wait to see if and what he will say in response to this.</p>
<p>I think the election of Obama is a wonderful thing. And undoubtedly Obama will make certain decisions that will not please us entirely. But the very fact that more nations are going to be willing to talk to him is extremely important and extremely positive. I certainly feel a sense that there is more hope for the world now. I feel proud for America and its people. I will never forget the way the world celebrated on election night and how it brought grown men to tears.</p>
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		<title>By: Esra'a (Bahrain)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/09/on-obama-and-tempering-skepticism/#comment-21565</link>
		<dc:creator>Esra'a (Bahrain)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great post and I don&#039;t mean to divert the attention, but I would agree that this comment is one of particular concern in the Middle East:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Still, all of this doesn’t explain why he chose a Zionist, Rahm Emanuel, as his Chief of Staff, his gatekeeper.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I agree that this was a horrible choice for Obama, did anyone read what Rahm&#039;s father say regarding this?

&lt;blockquote&gt;In an interview with Ma&#039;ariv, Emanuel&#039;s father, Dr. Benjamin Emanuel, said he was convinced that his son&#039;s appointment would be good for Israel. &quot;Obviously he will influence the president to be pro-Israel,&quot; he was quoted as saying. &lt;strong&gt;&quot;Why wouldn&#039;t he be? What is he, an Arab? He&#039;s not going to clean the floors of the White House.&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is particularly worrying and shows that U.S foreign policy in the Middle East will remain overwhelmingly imbalanced, perhaps not as violently as it would have been under McCain but that&#039;s besides the point at the moment. Obama criticizes everyone and everything, Israel is just never one of them. This shatters much of the hope that many of us have in the Middle East because Israel sets the tone for everything that goes on here.

We&#039;ll find out sooner rather than later whether or not Obama will allow for this garbage to continue under his administration. Picking someone whose father is a raging, violent racist and who probably passes many of such qualities to his own son, is stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great post and I don&#8217;t mean to divert the attention, but I would agree that this comment is one of particular concern in the Middle East:</p>
<blockquote><p>Still, all of this doesn’t explain why he chose a Zionist, Rahm Emanuel, as his Chief of Staff, his gatekeeper.</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree that this was a horrible choice for Obama, did anyone read what Rahm&#8217;s father say regarding this?</p>
<blockquote><p>In an interview with Ma&#8217;ariv, Emanuel&#8217;s father, Dr. Benjamin Emanuel, said he was convinced that his son&#8217;s appointment would be good for Israel. &#8220;Obviously he will influence the president to be pro-Israel,&#8221; he was quoted as saying. <strong>&#8220;Why wouldn&#8217;t he be? What is he, an Arab? He&#8217;s not going to clean the floors of the White House.&#8221;</strong> </p></blockquote>
<p>This is particularly worrying and shows that U.S foreign policy in the Middle East will remain overwhelmingly imbalanced, perhaps not as violently as it would have been under McCain but that&#8217;s besides the point at the moment. Obama criticizes everyone and everything, Israel is just never one of them. This shatters much of the hope that many of us have in the Middle East because Israel sets the tone for everything that goes on here.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll find out sooner rather than later whether or not Obama will allow for this garbage to continue under his administration. Picking someone whose father is a raging, violent racist and who probably passes many of such qualities to his own son, is stupid.</p>
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