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> <channel><title>Comments on: Our Mideast Faith project is NOT by the American Islamic Congress!</title> <atom:link href="http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/</link> <description>Promoting a fierce but respectful dialogue among the highly diverse youth of the Middle East</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 03:01:27 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Voices without Votes &#187; Mideast Youth: MEFaith is Ours</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/#comment-279625</link> <dc:creator>Voices without Votes &#187; Mideast Youth: MEFaith is Ours</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:56:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/#comment-279625</guid> <description>[...] Mideast Youth&#039;s Esra&#039;a is fuming that a US-based organisation is claiming ownership of a website, [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mideast Youth&#39;s Esra&#39;a is fuming that a US-based organisation is claiming ownership of a website, [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Esra'a (Bahrain)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/#comment-243952</link> <dc:creator>Esra'a (Bahrain)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 06:34:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/#comment-243952</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I remmber u used 2 work 2gether with American Islamic Congress. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
This is a common misconception. I never worked for or with AIC. I attended two of their conferences, just like many other people did, who also eventually saw them for who they really are and kept their distance. I have not been associated with their work in any way for years.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I remmber u used 2 work 2gether with American Islamic Congress.</p></blockquote><p>This is a common misconception. I never worked for or with AIC. I attended two of their conferences, just like many other people did, who also eventually saw them for who they really are and kept their distance. I have not been associated with their work in any way for years.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ahmad</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/#comment-243935</link> <dc:creator>Ahmad</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:27:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/#comment-243935</guid> <description>I remmber u used 2 work 2gether with American Islamic Congress. Wat happened?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remmber u used 2 work 2gether with American Islamic Congress. Wat happened?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Drima</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/#comment-243887</link> <dc:creator>Drima</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:58:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/#comment-243887</guid> <description>This is utterly reprehensible, and you have every right to be pissed off about it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is utterly reprehensible, and you have every right to be pissed off about it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lalith</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/#comment-243100</link> <dc:creator>Lalith</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:14:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/#comment-243100</guid> <description>AIC and USIP has yet to respond to my emails, I gave them till tomorrow then I&#039;ll phone them and if that doesn&#039;t get things turning then a letter from a lawyer will get to them and then we take it from there.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AIC and USIP has yet to respond to my emails, I gave them till tomorrow then I&#8217;ll phone them and if that doesn&#8217;t get things turning then a letter from a lawyer will get to them and then we take it from there.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Mideast Youth: MEFaith is Ours</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/#comment-243093</link> <dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Mideast Youth: MEFaith is Ours</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:25:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/#comment-243093</guid> <description>[...] Mideast Youth&#039;s Esra&#039;a is fuming that a US-based organisation is claiming ownership of a website, [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mideast Youth&#39;s Esra&#39;a is fuming that a US-based organisation is claiming ownership of a website, [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Esra'a (Bahrain)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/#comment-243044</link> <dc:creator>Esra'a (Bahrain)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:42:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/#comment-243044</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Normally, grant-giving organizations (especially those federally funded) do follow up with the recipient org, so it is surprising to me that AIC was able to so bodly claim ownership with no one checking that fact.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Which is why there is a slight possibility that the money was returned, and that no one bothered to update the site accordingly. However, we care about that, because our credibility is on the line here. There are several emails that have been sent, and I was too busy today to make a phone call. But I have people on top of this case and we&#039;ll get it sorted.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Plus, AIC’s name in itself is very attractive&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That may be the case in the USA, but they are amongst the least credible sources in the Middle East, and its Executive Director is extremely close to the Bush administration and has been known to praise U.S militarism in the region (very easy to do when you&#039;re living comfortably in Washington DC.) No one here trusts or likes them, and it&#039;s not impossible to see why. To be associated with such group is frankly an insult.&lt;blockquote&gt;Esra’a, have you thought about applying for a grant from USIP yourself? &lt;/blockquote&gt;
No, we try to stay away from these types of institutions. We are applying mostly to media-related, or European based grant-givers, in order to guarantee our total independence. For example, an American media organization whose mission is the empower people through the web, is something we apply for. But a politically charged organization is something we never allow ourselves to get involved with.Finding funding is easy, like my colleague Tori says, &quot;if you rely on money from the state department, you get fat really fast.&quot; That&#039;s why AIC is a $1million+ organization, and I am confident they don&#039;t have any freedom at all to do what they want. Finding responsible funding, where you are still the boss of your own organization, is incredibly challenging. We have a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mideastyouth.com/code-of-ethics/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;code of ethics&lt;/a&gt; and will stick by it, that means having to stay away from funders like USIP.I&#039;d rather get 100k a year than 100 million a year and wake up every morning knowing that I&#039;m doing my job sincerely instead of having to serve anyone&#039;s petty agenda. Sadly AIC can&#039;t say the same. Maybe that&#039;s why they steal things.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Normally, grant-giving organizations (especially those federally funded) do follow up with the recipient org, so it is surprising to me that AIC was able to so bodly claim ownership with no one checking that fact.</p></blockquote><p>Which is why there is a slight possibility that the money was returned, and that no one bothered to update the site accordingly. However, we care about that, because our credibility is on the line here. There are several emails that have been sent, and I was too busy today to make a phone call. But I have people on top of this case and we&#8217;ll get it sorted.</p><blockquote><p>Plus, AIC’s name in itself is very attractive</p></blockquote><p>That may be the case in the USA, but they are amongst the least credible sources in the Middle East, and its Executive Director is extremely close to the Bush administration and has been known to praise U.S militarism in the region (very easy to do when you&#8217;re living comfortably in Washington DC.) No one here trusts or likes them, and it&#8217;s not impossible to see why. To be associated with such group is frankly an insult.</p><blockquote><p>Esra’a, have you thought about applying for a grant from USIP yourself?</p></blockquote><p>No, we try to stay away from these types of institutions. We are applying mostly to media-related, or European based grant-givers, in order to guarantee our total independence. For example, an American media organization whose mission is the empower people through the web, is something we apply for. But a politically charged organization is something we never allow ourselves to get involved with.</p><p>Finding funding is easy, like my colleague Tori says, &#8220;if you rely on money from the state department, you get fat really fast.&#8221; That&#8217;s why AIC is a $1million+ organization, and I am confident they don&#8217;t have any freedom at all to do what they want. Finding responsible funding, where you are still the boss of your own organization, is incredibly challenging. We have a <a
href="http://www.mideastyouth.com/code-of-ethics/" rel="nofollow">code of ethics</a> and will stick by it, that means having to stay away from funders like USIP.</p><p>I&#8217;d rather get 100k a year than 100 million a year and wake up every morning knowing that I&#8217;m doing my job sincerely instead of having to serve anyone&#8217;s petty agenda. Sadly AIC can&#8217;t say the same. Maybe that&#8217;s why they steal things.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jessica M. (USA)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/#comment-243022</link> <dc:creator>Jessica M. (USA)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:55:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/#comment-243022</guid> <description>It&#039;s terrible that the AIC would take credit for this.  While I have a generally good opinion of USIP and the work they do, I will be very interested to know the follow-up to this post and if USIP responds to any of your requests.Normally, grant-giving organizations (especially those federally funded) do follow up with the recipient org, so it is surprising to me that AIC was able to so bodly claim ownership with no one checking that fact.Also, as for as why a $1 mil foundation would apply for grants, that&#039;s simple - why not?  If there is money available even largest organizations will still apply, and many times the org giving the money wants proof of fiscal responsibility - so unfortunately small orgs have a hard time starting out while larger orgs already have a foot in the door.  Plus, AIC&#039;s name in itself is very attractive, quasi-governmental (or even private non-religious or interfaith orgs) would jump at the chance to &quot;prove&quot; they are not anti-Muslim.Esra&#039;a, have you thought about applying for a grant from USIP yourself?  This is one very simple, cheap way to directly show USIP that you, and not AIC, are responsible for the content of the sites.  I understand the problems associated with actually taking grant money from USIP, but you could always decline it if offered.  Either way, someone on the other end would be reading your information and would hopefully realize the truth.This is not only a quesiton of copyright infringement, but also of fraud.  USIP is funded by American taxpayers, so if enough US citizens write to their Congressman complaining about grants given to AIC on this basis, something might - just maybe - change.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s terrible that the AIC would take credit for this.  While I have a generally good opinion of USIP and the work they do, I will be very interested to know the follow-up to this post and if USIP responds to any of your requests.</p><p>Normally, grant-giving organizations (especially those federally funded) do follow up with the recipient org, so it is surprising to me that AIC was able to so bodly claim ownership with no one checking that fact.</p><p>Also, as for as why a $1 mil foundation would apply for grants, that&#8217;s simple &#8211; why not?  If there is money available even largest organizations will still apply, and many times the org giving the money wants proof of fiscal responsibility &#8211; so unfortunately small orgs have a hard time starting out while larger orgs already have a foot in the door.  Plus, AIC&#8217;s name in itself is very attractive, quasi-governmental (or even private non-religious or interfaith orgs) would jump at the chance to &#8220;prove&#8221; they are not anti-Muslim.</p><p>Esra&#8217;a, have you thought about applying for a grant from USIP yourself?  This is one very simple, cheap way to directly show USIP that you, and not AIC, are responsible for the content of the sites.  I understand the problems associated with actually taking grant money from USIP, but you could always decline it if offered.  Either way, someone on the other end would be reading your information and would hopefully realize the truth.</p><p>This is not only a quesiton of copyright infringement, but also of fraud.  USIP is funded by American taxpayers, so if enough US citizens write to their Congressman complaining about grants given to AIC on this basis, something might &#8211; just maybe &#8211; change.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: elinor(Iran)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/#comment-241926</link> <dc:creator>elinor(Iran)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:45:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/#comment-241926</guid> <description>Hi Esra&#039;a,
So bad, so cheap that they claim what you and your friends here have achieved, but it really shows how successful and how revolutionary the idea of interfaith and Middle Eastern dialogue of the youth had been, congratulations dear Esra&#039;a :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Esra&#8217;a,<br
/> So bad, so cheap that they claim what you and your friends here have achieved, but it really shows how successful and how revolutionary the idea of interfaith and Middle Eastern dialogue of the youth had been, congratulations dear Esra&#8217;a <img
src='http://www.mideastyouth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Madmax</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/#comment-241728</link> <dc:creator>Madmax</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 05:57:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/#comment-241728</guid> <description>If this foundation is located in America you should see an intellectual property lawyer. Our IP laws are very strict and this seems like a form of copyright infringement. You might be able to win a small settlement. The problem is gettting the lawyer to work on contingency.Even if you can&#039;t get a lawyer, I think you are still able to press charges. As an organization with only $1 million, they are not going to want to spend money on a lawyer who charges $500 an hour. The lawyer would start drying up their revenue stream in a matter of weeks - not to mention the bad publicity.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this foundation is located in America you should see an intellectual property lawyer. Our IP laws are very strict and this seems like a form of copyright infringement. You might be able to win a small settlement. The problem is gettting the lawyer to work on contingency.</p><p>Even if you can&#8217;t get a lawyer, I think you are still able to press charges. As an organization with only $1 million, they are not going to want to spend money on a lawyer who charges $500 an hour. The lawyer would start drying up their revenue stream in a matter of weeks &#8211; not to mention the bad publicity.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Esra'a (Bahrain)</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/#comment-241645</link> <dc:creator>Esra'a (Bahrain)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 01:14:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/#comment-241645</guid> <description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guidestar.org/pqShowGsReport.do?partner=justgive&amp;npoId=100163536&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;These guys&lt;/a&gt; have enough cash to do whatever they want, I don&#039;t know why they resort to this cheap theft. They make in one year what my entire city makes every decade:Contributions  - £290,843
&lt;strong&gt;Government Grants - £470,788&lt;/strong&gt; [WTF!]
Program Services - £0
Investments - £0
Special Events - £0
Sales - £0
Other - £0
Total Revenue - £761,631 (U.S Dollars 1,171,691)Oh and look. Our dear site is listed as their achievement in this document:&lt;blockquote&gt;Helped to establish the Middle East Interfaith Bloggers network: a group of young Middle Easterners of varying religion and ethnic backgrounds who are committed to improving interfaith relations via an online forum. For information, please visit www.mefaith.org&lt;/blockquote&gt;They can keep their dirty cash which they evidently receive from false grant requests - I want these URLs removed from every single webpage that claims it&#039;s run by them. I also want proof from USIP that they have followed up with AIC to request what actually happened with this grant, and to do with the answer what needs to be done: get the money back, if it wasn&#039;t already done so. AIC isn&#039;t replying to any emails, and apparently their Executive Director ordered her staff not to cooperate with us on this investigation. I want USIP to just guarantee that no one was actually making any money from our work and to also remove the false affiliation from their website. Two very reasonable requests!If the financial source I linked to is indeed true, which is likely, then can someone tell me why a 1+ million dollar organization is applying for further GRANTS. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a
href="http://www.guidestar.org/pqShowGsReport.do?partner=justgive&#038;npoId=100163536" rel="nofollow">These guys</a> have enough cash to do whatever they want, I don&#8217;t know why they resort to this cheap theft. They make in one year what my entire city makes every decade:</p><p>Contributions  &#8211; £290,843<br
/> <strong>Government Grants &#8211; £470,788</strong> [WTF!]<br
/> Program Services &#8211; £0<br
/> Investments &#8211; £0<br
/> Special Events &#8211; £0<br
/> Sales &#8211; £0<br
/> Other &#8211; £0<br
/> Total Revenue &#8211; £761,631 (U.S Dollars 1,171,691)</p><p>Oh and look. Our dear site is listed as their achievement in this document:</p><blockquote><p>Helped to establish the Middle East Interfaith Bloggers network: a group of young Middle Easterners of varying religion and ethnic backgrounds who are committed to improving interfaith relations via an online forum. For information, please visit <a
href="http://www.mefaith.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.mefaith.org</a></p></blockquote><p>They can keep their dirty cash which they evidently receive from false grant requests &#8211; I want these URLs removed from every single webpage that claims it&#8217;s run by them. I also want proof from USIP that they have followed up with AIC to request what actually happened with this grant, and to do with the answer what needs to be done: get the money back, if it wasn&#8217;t already done so. AIC isn&#8217;t replying to any emails, and apparently their Executive Director ordered her staff not to cooperate with us on this investigation. I want USIP to just guarantee that no one was actually making any money from our work and to also remove the false affiliation from their website. Two very reasonable requests!</p><p>If the financial source I linked to is indeed true, which is likely, then can someone tell me why a 1+ million dollar organization is applying for further GRANTS.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lalith</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/#comment-241638</link> <dc:creator>Lalith</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 00:59:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/#comment-241638</guid> <description>OK I just visited the USIP website and this is sad and fraud. We going to have to talk to a lawyer.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK I just visited the USIP website and this is sad and fraud. We going to have to talk to a lawyer.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lalith</title><link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/#comment-241633</link> <dc:creator>Lalith</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 00:42:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.mideastyouth.com/2008/11/27/our-mideast-faith-project-is-not-by-the-american-islamic-congress/#comment-241633</guid> <description>I spent hours designing and writing a plugin for WP for this project on my own time and never got a cent from AIC, but they now claim its theirs? Hmmm...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent hours designing and writing a plugin for WP for this project on my own time and never got a cent from AIC, but they now claim its theirs? Hmmm&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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