The Arab Association for Kurdish Rights
May 31st, 2009
It’s with great passion that we finally launch this initiative.
We are a group of students, journalists, and activists from various Arab states who are concerned for and supportive of Kurdish human rights as well as the conservation of Kurdish history and culture. Due to injustices faced throughout the Middle East, many Kurds have found a home in neighboring Arab countries, where most Kurdish communities are entirely isolated. We are using this campaign in order to draw attention to not just their plight, but also to raise understanding of the Kurdish culture and allow them to be outspoken members of our communities.
We have utmost respect for our Kurdish brethren. It is unfortunate that they have faced censorship and discrimination for many decades. We are here to assure Kurdish communities within the Arab world that we will stand up for their human rights as well as their right to practice their culture freely in our societies.
The campaign currently has delegates from 16 Arab countries. Check it out and if you’re an Arab, please consider joining!
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Thank you,
I wish you faith and God’s blessing to love everyone’s dignity.
Well, as a Canadian, I’m very impressed by what this brave Arab guys doing ; supporting the Kurdish rights… I’d be very glad to see the Turks and Persian(Faris) youths to take the same intiaves as the Arab youth..
it’s very impressing to see that Arab Youth suppprting the kurdish rights.. it was also very important for the Turkish and Iranian youth to take the same intiatives regarding the kurdish issue in their countries.. this the first time I’ve ever seen a non-kurdish group(especially Arabs) supporting the kurdish rights!!
This initiative step should be aprreciated. I, as a Kurd from Iraq, welcome warlmy this huge step toward the recognizing the Kurdish rights and remove the decaces long of suppression and assimilation. This will also improve bilaterial relations between Kurds and Arabs, and also with other communities. Good job. In Kurdish, destan xosh.
Wonderful initiative!
Check this: http://alparty.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=870
It’s about the same subject, 3000 Arabs supporting Kurdish rights.
Thanks very much everyone. We really appreciate your support!
hello dearest friends. honorable Esra’a (Bahrain), please send me your private e-mail. i as a journalist from Iraqi Kurdistan want to interview you.
you have really done a great thing. it is unbelievable, fantastic and great.
by the way, please it is not for publishing. i just want to get your email.
hello dearest friends. honorables please send me your private e-mail. i as a journalist from Iraqi Kurdistan want to interview you.
you have really done a great thing. it is unbelievable, fantastic and great.
by the way, please my comment is not for publishing. i just want to get your email.
Any Arab thinking of supporting Kurdish separatism should be aware that the main ally of the Kurds is the Zionist entity in Palestine. Both share a desire to weaken the Arabs and further the divisions among the Arabs. (Persia under the Shah was the next biggest ally of the Kurds) Also, I would bet that those so-called “Arabs” are actually Berber separatists, who are also open recipients of Zionist support, and held a conference in France and another in occupied Palestine supporting anti-Muslim/anti-Arab positions! No real Arab would support the Kurdish separatists, the best friends that the Zionists have in the Muslim world!
It’s funny how almost every single minority to date is being accused of receiving Zionist support. Even those Kurds who are extremely active for Palestinian human rights due to how much both nations can relate are in the eyes of the paranoid few, just Zionists unworthy of Arab attention. You need to get a grip on real life – where the majority of Kurds have no ties whatsoever to either Israel or Zionism itself. True, some Kurds are strictly aligned with Israel for reasons that are immoral, and indeed as are some Arabs! But generally they are entirely irrelevant to the notion of Zionism and can relate more to us Arabs than they do Israel. Those who support the Israeli government in its struggle to belittle Arabs are doing so for one reason and one reason only; Israel offered them the support that as Arabs we never provided even after they have suffered genocide in our own lands. So why would you blame them if they turned their backs on us at some point in history? We turned our backs on them first, when they needed us most, so why should you expect otherwise?
Today we can redefine that by showing them who Arabs really are and that our generation is willing to coexist with them by accepting and honoring their ethnicity and identity completely.
Where is this “genocide” you refer to? Are you using the old lie about “Saddam gassed his own people” which the US uses? The US Army War College in Carlisle, Pennsylvania concluded that the alleged “gassing”, if it occurred at all, was probably done by Iran, not Iraq. And the CIA station chief for Iraq, Stephen Pelletiere, in an important article in the New York Times, (http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/31/opinion/31PELL.html ) gave details confirming that conclusion! It’s time for the Arabs to wake up, and not parrot the propaganda of their enemies; it’s time to get rid of the inferiority complex! The Kurds became enemies of the Arab Nation for a good reason: as far back as Mustafa Barzani, they were allies of the West and the Zionist entity in Palestine against the Arabs. They want a piece of our land to create their ‘homeland’, the same idea the zionists had. And they want the same thing in Turkey and Persia. Now, because of the US and Britain, and the inaction of the Arab leaders, they have torn off a part of the Arab homeland, and named it Kurdistan; it will surely declare independence. News reports in the west have acknowledged the close cooperation between the Kurds and the Zionists to this end, and Israel has always provided training and intelligence to the Kurds.
It is sad that you prefer to hide your head in the sand and pretend that we have no enemies except ourselves. The fact is, we DO have foes, some of them are in minority groups, and some among our own people; i.e., traitors. Certainly there are Kurds who are not separatists, there are also Jews in Palestine who oppose the Zionist state itself. But these exceptions to the
rule should not be mistaken for the majority.
The Kurds are not seeking “acceptance” of their identity, or there would be no ‘Kurdistan’. They are seeking separation: Kurdish Zionism. (Which is why the Zionists and US support them!)
I would prefer that we form movements to protect the rights of Arabs in Palestine or Ahwaz! As
Arabs, our concern should be for our own people first, should it not? The fact that the Kurdish movement and the Zionist movement are both so strongly supported by the West (especially the neo-conservatives in the US!) should make us sit up and think, and perhaps consider devoting our efforts to our own people! Our loyalty should be for the Arab Nation exclusively. I am wondering if this effort is, in fact, being championed by Kurds pretending to be Arabs…
Interesting that you seem to have no comment, Mr. Esma’a al-Kurdi. Perhaps you (and the Arabs reading this) should simply Google “Israelis train Kurdish forces” or “Israel intelligence agents in Kurdistan” and similar titles. Or try this link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1243533,00.html
Then tell us the ‘majority’ of Kurds have no ties to the zionist entity in Palestine! And your use of the phrase …”zionists unworthy of Arab attention” exposes you thoroughly! No real Arab would suggest that we ignore the activities of any zionist, for their primary and all-encompassing goal is to defeat the Arabs, and maintain their hold on Arab Palestine. To do this, they have sunk their tentacles deep into the brain of the US, where their lobby is held above and beyond reproach. No One seeking high political office can avoid declaring his/her open and sincere (?) loyalty to the zionist cause (even to the detriment of US interests!).
You refer to those of us who keep our eyes and ears open as the “paranoid few”…Indeed, you would like us to close our minds and ears to the suffering of our brethren who have endured the bombings in Lebanon, Gaza, and Iraq. But it won’t happen. Our Arab Nation is One, despite the wishes of the enemies both within and without; and we have an enduring message for civilization, and we will not, inchallah, be dissuaded from our task by the likes of infiltrators who would seek to weaken our resolve.And this is not “opinion”, this is “Fact!”
Your comment is nothing short of hilarious, to be frank.
You think because a small, tiny percentage of Kurds received aid and “training” from Israel, all Kurds must be Zionists and all Kurds are racists against Arabs. Your justification? One or two articles that suggest ties between Israel and Kurds.
By your irrelevant and shallow logic, all Arabs are also Zionist because 20% of Israel consists of Arab Jews or Arab Christians. Does this make sense? No, because it’s stupid and childish to create such stereotype and base the ideologies of an entire nation on a single article that established your hateful and racist attitude towards a population that underwent GENOCIDE in your name. And your only reaction to the atrocities is that they are “Zionist enemies?” Pitiful and insulting. No wonder why so many Kurds have lost hope in Arab support if people like you exist on a wide scale, churning out rubbish claims.
Don’t dare come here and claim that such racism is “fact,” it isn’t, it’s a poorly informed opinion by nothing more than a self-serving nationalist, the laughing stock of all Kurds and moral Arabs.
Good luck with your hatred – the Arab Association for Kurdish Rights will THRIVE whether you like it or not.
You are the joke, do you think anyone is fooled by your bluster? Anyone who reads these articles will learn, if they didn’t already know before, about the lies and treachery of Kurdish-Zionism (whether you like that title or not, that’s what it amounts to!), and your repeated refusal to comment on the above-mentioned article by the CIA officer and the US War College on the TRUTH about Halabja exposes you as nothing more than a paid mouthpiece for the enemies of the Arab Nation. Throwing about silly epithets like “racism” won’t cloud the issue! Halabja is the Kurdish version of Bush’s “weapons of mass destruction” lie; repeated over and over until even those who invented it almost believe it themselves!
“One or two articles ” about Kurdish-Zionist ties? There are DOZENS of them, none refuted by your Barzani patrons. Why can YOU not face the truth? Are you part Kurdish yourself, or married to one?
And your pro-Zionist mentality and lack of clear thinking shows in your comment that “20% of Israel consists of Arab Jews or Arab Christians”. The land is “Palestine”, not “Israel”, even if you would be content to hand it over to the Zionists! And there are still many Palestinian Arabs who have “Israeli” citizenship. The Palestinian Arab Christians are natives in their own land; the non-Palestinian Jews, Arab or otherwise, who came to usurp Palestinian land are, first and foremost, Zionists, and as such have no right to Palestine. The pre-Nakba Jewish Palestinians have the same right to the land as do their Muslim and Christian brethren, so long as they have not joined the Zionist enemy. It is silly to imply that the natives who remained in their land despite the onslaught of the foreign invaders are somehow automatically traitors!
Yes, I’m sure your cabal of anti-Arabism will “thrive”; the Zionists will see to it that you do not run out of funds as long as you do their bidding! We have seen many of your ilk before…Sadat, et al!
Again, re: the so-called Halabja attrocity, THE CIA ANALYST AND THE US ARMY WAR COLLEGE SAYS IT WAS NOT DONE BY ARABS (i.e. Iraqis), AND THAT THE NUMBER OF VICTIMS WAS GROSSLY EXAGGERATED! So we Arabs owe them nothing. Maybe you owe them your loyalty, but the rest of us are not on their payroll!
You say “Don’t dare come here and claim that such racism is “fact,” “, but I suspect you have lost it a bit; I made no such comment in my message. Are you confused? I didn’t call the Kurds “racists” , just that their major parties are allies of Zionism and enemies of the Arabs.
I didn’t even bother reading past the first sentence considering the amount of bullshit and hatred you preach. Please do yourself and the rest of us a favor and get educated. Read a history book or something. You’re an utter embarrassment and a hack, and your ignorant comments are tedious to swift through.
Feel free to keep commenting with the racism and attacks, just don’t believe for a second that anyone will bother reading the comments of an uninformed goon like you.
You expose your ignorance when you 1) resort to obscenities instead of posing a coherent argument; 2) focus on things which I DIDN’T EXPRESS (”hatred? my motives are affection and protection for my Nation”); 3) inane insults: “get educated”? I am obviously better educated (both formally and in life) than you: you can’t even deal with the TRUTH when it confronts you, preferring instead to retreat to your blathering and sputtering! I’m waging a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent! 4) “Goon?” How juvenile! You can’t even make a decent insult! And, so far, in spite of your rambling, rabid, and disengenuous diatribes, you have not dealt with the scathing fact that the unholy alliance between the Kurdish movement, and the Zionist entity in Palestine, is REAL, and has been so for a generation! Everything I wrote above is fact, and you cannot make facts disappear by calling them names! Anyone who has bothered to follow up on the links I gave has seen that it is no imaginary problem: and I can’t believe that any Arab concerned with the welfare of his/her own people would assume an attitude of abject denial combined with burying their head in the sand, as you seem to be doing. So what does that make you…hmmm! HALABJA WAS THE KURDISH VERSION OF THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION LIE as the links to the CIA investigation prove. So why are your allies still pushing that Big Lie technique? Anti-arabism!
(I shouldn’t let your puerile epithets go unanswered, but my work here is finished. I will be checking back on you every now and then! Maybe you’ll read something besides the Kurdish Times, and learn a little history yourself, and be less of an uninformed…hmmm… HIMAAR!)
This is the definitive word on the Kurdish-Zionist allliance, coming from Nathan Guttman, reporter for the “israeli” newspaper “Haaretz”, back in June 2004! Just Google the title of the article: “report: israel operating hundreds of agents in northern Iraq”. Also in the article, NY Times reporter Seymour Hersh tells CNN that “hundreds of Israelis” are in the Kurdish-controlled areas of northern Iraq, and are also “attempting to assist(?) Kurds living in Syria”. One can only guess what “assist” means!
Apparently, one of the zionist methods of “assisting” the Kurdish separatist movement is by creating and funding front groups it has set up (through puppets) in order to weaken Arab resolve to oppose the dismemberment of Iraq. No patriotic Arab would want to have any role in bring about the goals of this joint Zionist-Kurdish-US scheme: the solidification and spread of zionism, directly threatening Syria, Jordan, and Hijaz. The famous map on the walls of the zionist parliament showed “Eretz yisroel” (land of israel) as including all of Jordan and Syria, most of Iraq, and the Hijaz –including Yathrib (Madinah)!
We slept while they entrenched themselves in Palestine… Will we awaken now, and act, before history repeats itself…or will we let traitors deceive us yet again?
Yes, Esra’il, i’m still here! I know you check back every now and then, and i knew your simian curiosity would not allow you to ignore my last two messages. But, since you have no coherent or logical retort, you are reduced to muttering to yourself in futile frustration. The problem is, just like the Arab vs “Israeli” debate, the side of truth and justice in the Kurdish-Arab debate is very clear: both enemies want some of the Arab homeland, simply because at some time in the recent or remote past, some of them settled on it. But IT’S STILL ARAB LAND! We’re not giving it away!
The Kurds do not hide their intentions any more than their zionist allies did. The only strange thing is, why would someone who presents himself as a (”Bahraini”) Arab give them support, at the expense of “his” Arab brethren? True, some Bahrainis are ethnically Persians who migrated…
If you really are an Arab (doubtful!) you should get on your knees and beg forgiveness of the mothers and sisters of the Arab fighters who died trying to oppose the Zionist- and Kurdish-supported invasion of Iraq by Bush, and of the martyred defenders of Gaza and south Lebanon from your “Israeli” friends.
I noticed the Kurd above who wrote to praise your treachery is named “Ari” Mamshae. Nice “Jewish” name, isn’t it? …What’s your name again? Hmmm…
Truth stands on it’s own feet, Falsehood crawls in murky slime. April747;OANWAEM;UFS
To el-shinqiti, the obsecured man… There are many blindfolded and ultra-nationalists like you who don’t see any other people living on the earth beside themself, and for you just Arab. Let me mention something from a honourable Arab religious man, Sheikhk Humam Bin Al-Hemoudi, who is highly regarded by the Islamic associations. He had once said that whilst during a visit to USA by him, he had seen much more enthuasism from the Kurds to Islam rather from the Arab to Islam. That’s what he said. In the late 1960’s and 1970’s Arab-Isreal war, thousand of Kurds voluntarily became soldier in the line of Iraq against Israel, of whom now many live in your Arab countries. One of my relatives live in Sudan, what do you say to that? But your just plushing out. Then can I ask you why many of YOUR
To el-shinqiti, the obsecured man… There are many blindfolded and ultra-nationalists like you who don’t see any other people living on the earth beside themself, and for you just Arab. Let me mention something from a honourable Arab religious man, Sheikhk Humam Bin Al-Hemoudi, who is highly regarded by the Islamic associations. He had once said that whilst during a visit to USA by him, he had seen much more enthuasism from the Kurds to Islam rather from the Arab to Islam. That’s what he said. In the late 1960’s and 1970’s Arab-Isreal war, thousand of Kurds voluntarily became soldier in the line of Iraq against Israel, of whom now many live in your Arab countries. One of my relatives live in Sudan, what do you say to that? But your just plushing out. Then can I ask you why there hundreds of thousans of your brethrens living and working in Israel, could you tell me there are thousands of Arabs working for the Mosad, could you tell me why you Arab countries imports yearly billions from Isreal (please read Forbes about that), why during the wars non of your 22 Arab country condemn Isreal so hardly as Iran, why during the wars there is secret negotiations between your countries (especially Saudia Arabia, Jordan and Morroco) with Israel, why many of YOUR Arabic countries do have stong ties with Israel and the flag of their country is fluttering on the embassy’s in your countries? Does not this go back for the existence of interests between them? For sure, states have interest with each other, if you dont know anything about politics then please have a course on politics and you will find out that its all related to interest. Let me give you an information, nearly 13 thousand Palestinan’s living in Baghdad are going to come to the Kurdistan region on a demand made by Mahmud Abbas during his latest visit to Kurdistan region. We have formal allies with Palestine, but not with Isreal. But you have both. Just check out the libraries and the net. Besides, my name is Kurdish, it is Ari, the name of Ari or Arian belongs to the Indo-European people. Hitler called himself that he was from the Arian blood (read My struggle of Hitler, in German My Kaumf). He killed for you Arabs 6 milions Jews and he was proud of himself that he was from the Arian blood. Isra is right, you are not worthy of discussion because you just know to scrutinze and make false allegations. There is a Kurdish proverb says, don’t throw stones to others homes when your own house is from glass. So shinqitim, dont blame other when you dont know own countries and your history.
So your hireling Esra’a was wrong when he wrote “just don’t believe for a second that anyone will bother reading the comments of an uninformed goon like you.” Apparently, you did!
Predictably, you did not address the issue: that the Kurdish movement is an ally of the Zionists and the west! The difference between them and the Arab states is that the Arab leaders are often traitors, not the masses; in your case, the masses of Kurds (like the masses of Jews) are sworn and proven enemies of the Arabs.
And, also predictably, you failed to address the phony charge about Halabja “genocide”; this is your main sympathy-getter, so without it your arguments fall short. No comment?
No matter what you say, it will always come back to these same two points! You will persist in trying to evade the issue, and I will persist in returning to them! And i won’t be distracted or dissuaded, inchallah.
I’ve never heard any “Muslim” brag about being an Aryan/Nazi-lover before! And to say that Hitler killed 6,000,000 Jews for the Arabs is bizarre, since the Arabs are the real Semites, while the Jews are mostly pseudo-Semites, descendants of European converts to Judaism. Nazi troops in the Maghreb killed thousands of Arabs. You are even more of a Himaar than your puppet Esma’a, if that’s possible! Killing the Jews encouraged more of them to invade Palestine!
And Kurdistan has no formal “allies” (sic: alliance?) with Palestine, you dumb liar! Prove it! How can “Kurdistan” which is not (yet) an independent state, have relations with a sovereign state?
Has the “Kurdistan” already declared independance and separated itself from Iraq?
One of your relatives lives in Sudan? So what? You probably have a dozen in “Israel” or USA. You throw out these sloppy, worthless, and meaningless comments, expecting them to have some weight. Can you stick to facts? Or don’t you know any good ones to support your arguments?
There are “hundreds of thousands” of Arabs working in “Israel”? I doubt that figure, but why shouldn’t “Arabs” (Palestinians, you forgot to mention!) live and/or work in their own land, even though it is under Zionist occupation? What a stupid comment!
Interesting comment, that there are “thousands” of Arabs working for Mossad. What was the source of your information. I will be waiting for your answer. (don’t say it was uncle Moshe!)
You’re as inept as your crony Esra’a, and I still await your response to the issues: your long-standing ties with “Israel”, and the perpetuation of the lie about genocide in Halabja! How long will you and your cohorts try to evade the issues? But I guess that since you have nothing else to hold onto, you will refuse to face the truth.
You are both pathological liars and pitiful creatures, but your evil nature deprives you of any right to sympathy. May Allah give you what you have earned.
It came to my memory that the Kurdish organizations in Iraq always condemned the non-Iraqi Arabs there as being Baathists (especially the Palestinians!) Why, then (as you claim) would the Kurdish separatists agree to take these same Palestinians into the areas they hope to be purely Kurdish, when the local Iraqi Turkomans, Chaldeans, Catholics, and (both) Sunni and Shi’a Arabs in the Kurdish regions are being daily persecuted, to force them to depart? Doesn’t make sense! But it’s about what one would expect from you both…You guys need to wake up; history is against you!
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…furthermore, Isra’a and Ari (et al), I want to call to the attention of any Arab who might be fooled by your antics, that any support they might give your group (if it does in fact exist!) will make them partly responsible for any further weakening of the Arabs as a nation, if and when the Kurdish version of zionism results in a piece of Iraq (or Syria!) being torn from the Arab Homeland, to create another cancer in our midst! Who would want to sit down some day, face-to-face with his conscience, in the realization of such a crime? Regardless of our individual views re: any particular Arab leader or “regime”, we owe loyalty to our people (the Nation) and the Homeland, first and foremost! Anyone who supports the enemies of this Nation is in fact, an enemy; and if of Arab birth, he (or she) is a TRAITOR as well.
Newsweek, March 3, 2007: this is the reference (googled) for the SCUM you decribed as “an honorable Arab religious man…who is highly respected by the Islamic associations”…Quote:
“The goals of this conference are to approve the security plan, but also to send a message of reassurance to our neighbors that Iraq will not be part of any regional dispute,” said Sheikh Humam al Hamoudi, chairman of the foreign affairs committee in the Iraqi National Assembly. Hamoudi is one of the top officials in SCIRI, the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, the largest Shiite party, and one that initially at least modeled its political world view on the Islamic Revolution in Iran.
This man is not only a part of the US-backed puppet regime, but a sectarian of Persian (more arianism?) origin. Can you name the “Islamic Associations” of which he is an object of “high respect”, and their quoted comments to verify your statements? I believe you have (again) been exposed as a devious, but disengenuous, SERIAL LIAR. I await your response, or retort, if any!
(By the way, your so-called “Kurdish” proverb is actually a (plagiarized) well-known old American one, the correct reading of it being: “people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones”
To Ari the Kurd and Esra’a the pseudo-Arab: why don’t you go to my message of July 30 and August 12 and 28 above and try to answer the issues raised there? You guys do everything you can to avoid the real issues, because you have NO WAY to refute them! I challenge you to disprove the facts I have pointed out on this page! Or, you can just admit that you are BOTH LIARS! I notice that all the people who “praised” you were Westerners, Kurdish, or “Israeli”. I’m surprised that you didn’t take the time to fabricate messages from “Arab” readers. Didn’t think of that, huh? (but it’s too late now!) Eid Mubarak to all Muslims out there!
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Well, the dog and pig show has apparently run out of steam! Ari and Esra’a, that is. After waiting more than 3 weeks for one of them (if there is, indeed, more than one of them!) to make a coherent and convincing retort, dealing with the pertinent facts and details, it seems that they have given up, and just went off into a corner to sulk with their “israeli” cohorts. The fact is that they have no credible retort: they simply parrotted the worn-out lies of the Kurdish-Zionist movement, which is very popular in the US (for obvious reasons!).
I suspect they are going to try to outwait me, in the hope that I will give up waiting for a reply, and then make some asinine comments to try to recover their momentum. I just caution any reader to do your own research before you swallow their corrupt propaganda, and don’t be fooled or misled by your greatest enemy: the TRAITOR within! Support your Arab brethren wherever they may be, and make their enemy your enemy. This is the only attitude that will give us success.
Free Palestine, Free Ahwaz (”Arabistan”), Free Iraq; defend Bahrain, Sudan, and Syria.
You aren’t worth much more than severe pity. And for resorting to calling us a “dog” and a “pig,” it just shows the lack of respect you have for other human beings, simply because they think or are different than you. You are shameful, and I feel disturbed that Kurds have to deal with your despicable racism, and that of your pathetic ilk. But we’ll win this struggle. Just wait and see. Soon, ignorant minions like yourself will have nothing better to do than wallow in a hateful pool of self-pity.
Esra’a, you’re still rambling, and as I’ve said (Many Times!!) why don’t you deal with the issues? Answer the charges! Stop whining about being called names! Arabs are being killed, abused, tortured, by your US/”Israeli”/Kurdish alliance. What makes you think being called names is equivalent to that? You are a worm, not a pig or dog! Answer the charges or admit they are true, and shut up!
And I do have respect for “other human beings”, but what does that have to do with you two? My primary concern is naturally with the Arabs, my people. And I have a great respect for the Muslim peoples in general, as well as other friendly nations like Venezuela, Cuba, or Greece, for example.
“We’ll win this struggle”? Does “we” mean “you”, the Mossad, and the Kurdish militias?
…”wallow in …self-pity”? Do you read this stuff before you send it? You need to read a text on rhetoric now and then, instead of spouting incoherencies.
But, mostly, YOU NEED TO ANSWER THE CHARGES AND ISSUES RAISED, and stop trying to avoid them! You can’t hide from the truth forever, but you can try! (I’m sure you will!)
TO HELP YOU A LITTLE BIT (YOU NEED IT!) I ‘M SENDING LINKS ON THE TOPICS DISCUSSED:
Below is a sample of the above-mentioned sites on documentation of Kurdish-Zionist alliance in occupied Iraq! Check the sites yourself. If any Arab doubts the Kurdish movement is an enemy of the Arab Nation, this should put those doubts to rest!
The zionists used the Holocaust to justify their invasion of Arab Palestine, so their Kurdish proteges have adopted a fake mini-holocaust, “Halabja”, to win support from the west.
Jun 22, 2004 … Pulitzer prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh reports that Israel warned the US … Now, hundreds of Israeli agents, including members of Mossad, … members of Mossad operating in the Kurdish areas of northern Iraq. …
http://www.democracynow.org/…/seymour_hersh_israeli_agents_operating_in – Cached – Similar
Report: 3 Mossad spies killed in IraqSep 7, 2008 … Meanwhile, the Iraqi media reported that hundreds of Mossad agents had been deployed to northern Iraq. According to reports, the agents were …
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Israeli agents working in Iraq’s Kurdistan, Iran: report. … Kurdish commandos in the northern part of the country, the report in New …
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Critical Montages: Israeli Agents and the Kurds in Iraq, Iran, and …According
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Whose ass do we have to kiss to get el-shinqiti banned from this forum entirely? Is this kind of idiotic spamming allowed here? I thought racism was against the comment policy.
Behnaz,
We’re allowing it here so that he doesn’t spam every other site of ours with this mindless drivel. If we ignore him and give him this thread, he’s tempted to just remain here instead of hijacking other threads or sites with his pathetic xenophobic paranoia. Such bigoted trolls come and go, just like a bad flu. Wait it out, and soon this thread will once again be reclaimed by someone else, preferably with a brain this time.
Behnaz, you guys are already kissing “Israel’s” a- -, so that should be enough. However, I’ll make it easy for you, I’ll make you a deal: all I want is a comprehensive and detailed reply to the repeated charges made in my msgs, and I promise to do no more exposures of your treachery on this website. How’s that? You call it “hijacking” because you don’t seem to have any answers that make sense. You throw out epithets like “pathetic”, “xenophobic”, and “paranoia”, because it’s much easier to do so than to DEAL WITH THE ISSUE! I’ve been trying since July to get you guys to face the issues, but you keep running away, throwing poop over your shoulders to cover your tracks! “Mindless drivel” is it? Then why don’t you take it apart point by point, and show the error in my position? You could have done this months ago…if you had a handy lie that could cover the facts! But no, it’s call him names, ignore the facts, hope nobody who reads this stops to THINK!
Esra’a, you mindless traitor, the blood of Iraqi and Syrian Arabs will be on your hands, and I pray you burn in hell for it.
I just learned that 2 of the links referred to in my Oct 17 msg are broken; however, you can still use the link in my Aug 12 msg above, or simply google: “Israelis train Kurdish forces” or “Israel intelligence agents in Kurdistan” or “Mossad trains Iraqi Kurds”, to learn about the unholy alliance between the Zionist entity and the Kurdistan movement. ( The great Salahhuddin would have snuffed out the lives of such traitors and swine as those who have disgraced and shamed the name “Kurdish”.)
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ASSra’a and BehnASS, I still don’t see any answer to my charges…if you guys have any retorts, I’m eager to hear (read) them. You keep blustering and avoiding the issues, but sooner or later, you will have to face them. And yourselves, in the mirror…and Allah! But that will be even harder. Why don’t you (both) just admit that you have no disproof of my charges, and I’ll be satisfied. Promise!
By the way, BehnASS and ASSra’a, it was very weak of you to cry ‘racism’ to seek sympathy! We’re not talking about race here, we’re talking about politics. Interesting that you should follow the same ploy that your “Israeli” allies use, screaming “antisemitism” (although they are not even Semites, but mostly descendants of European converts to Judaism, like the Khazars!). By following your line, the Arabs should just give Palestine (and the rest of the targeted Arab lands) to the Zionist Jews, lest we be acused of “racism”.
Are you guys totally incapable of making a straight, honest statement, bereft of menial rhetoric?
Is your race “Aryan”, as your cohort Ari implies above? Wow, your “Israeli” allies may have second thoughts about you after that exposure!
And as for my having a “lack of respect for other human beings”, you’re wrong, I do respect Human Beings of every nationality…what does this have to do with you two cretins, and your ilk? How could any upright Arab respect an utter traitor, one with the ethics and mores of snail slime? You are lower than whale poop, and that’s at the bottom of the ocean!
ANSWER THE CHARGES! I expect you to block me any day now, because you have no way to refute the charges. But the truth has already been exposed, and many readers will stop and think about it! Your treachery, inchallah, will not succeed!
Long Live Palestine! Long Live Free, United, Arab Iraq! Free Ahwaz! Defend Bahrain,Sudan, Syria!
One Arab Nation, with an Eternal Mission; Unity,Freedom,Socialism;
my work here is done. goodbye!
there is no such a thing as kurdish people, theyr a creation of western anti-arab sentiments
half of my family were killed in the halabja massacre this nutcase belives whatever cia bullshits about the cia only wants to grow hatred between the muslims, most arab countires are even ally’s with israel and the governemtns are puppets , and who gave saddem weapons the jewish lobby, saddem was a tool for the zionists once the tool wasnt working well they threw it away into the garbag, now in 1920 when the british came over and took over iraq who killed most of the british soldiers it was sheikh mahmoud a kurd from silemani after we helped use to get the british out at the end the brits deicded to give power to the iraqi monacrchy, and guess what the arabs they killed sheikh mahmoud they killed thousands of people ni viallages just in the name of nationalism, and the womens were raped and is this what use give back to us not just arabs only arrived in iraq during islamic period, arabs from awas were tribalistic people which they had fights with the other arabs so the king of persia leted the mto settle in awaz,i am not anti arab or anti this i support my own country bcz no one will ever treat u right when u cant be treated right u know what that means, and we are not anti arabs use are listening to too much propoganda, if u are truely right about this anti arabs where did u get ur information o ya of course aljazeera, thank u for ur hatred thank and salahadin was a krud tell me a krud benefited to ur land but what benefit did u ever bring to the land no there werent any, use are corruptors, if saddem ddint act like a pig ddint attack any kurds or taking most of the kids from vilages and burying them alive would kurds want to separate, my family were killed in the halabja so there is no denial, israel’s are anti palestinians makes genocide against the palestinians kills there people makes rocket launch forgoooot sake have u ever looked in the mirror that use being the second israel to us kurds we are like the palestinians and use are the zionists to us, the so called muslim brotherhood, the so called neighbouring coutnries, what have use learned from the qur’an what dignity did u have did u not get any advice from prophet mohammad pbuh on the hadith, or are u just deaf dumb and stupid,, u can deny everything but remember dont belive cia bullshit,
allah swt is a witness of everything