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		<title>By: Nissim Dahan</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/06/24/age-of-ahmadinejad/#comment-268888</link>
		<dc:creator>Nissim Dahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mohammad, the distinction you are drawing between the simple masses on the one hand, and the intellectual elite on the other, is a good one. Sometimes, the masses don&#039;t know what is good for them, and perhaps the elites know better. And sometimes it is the other way around. However, in either case, what you are describing is a war of ideas, a war for hearts and minds. Therefore, the question becomes: Who can make the best case for his position? It is not enough to be right. The harder challenge is to convince the man on the street of the wisdom of your position. And perhaps Ahmedinijad has done a better job of that, at least with some sectors of the population, hence the success of his populist approach.

If a poor and simple man looks at the table, and sees only an ideology of hate, and some charitable handouts, then that&#039;s what he&#039;s going to buy into, because that&#039;s all there is. But if he looks at the table and sees a job, and an ideology that makes more sense, then now there is a choice, and 90% will choose a life, and will fight those who would take that life away. In the final analysis, the ideological extremists will not be able to capture the public&#039;s imagination, once people begin to imagine a better life for themselves. It becomes incumbent, therefore, for the West, and for the intellectuals and experts in Iran, of which you speak, to make the case more forcefully, so as to convince the masses that there is indeed a better way. 

Waiting for things to work out, or for people to learn their lessons gradually, will not work, especially when the acquisition of nuclear capabilities can easily be used to ensure that the status quo remains unchanged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mohammad, the distinction you are drawing between the simple masses on the one hand, and the intellectual elite on the other, is a good one. Sometimes, the masses don&#8217;t know what is good for them, and perhaps the elites know better. And sometimes it is the other way around. However, in either case, what you are describing is a war of ideas, a war for hearts and minds. Therefore, the question becomes: Who can make the best case for his position? It is not enough to be right. The harder challenge is to convince the man on the street of the wisdom of your position. And perhaps Ahmedinijad has done a better job of that, at least with some sectors of the population, hence the success of his populist approach.</p>
<p>If a poor and simple man looks at the table, and sees only an ideology of hate, and some charitable handouts, then that&#8217;s what he&#8217;s going to buy into, because that&#8217;s all there is. But if he looks at the table and sees a job, and an ideology that makes more sense, then now there is a choice, and 90% will choose a life, and will fight those who would take that life away. In the final analysis, the ideological extremists will not be able to capture the public&#8217;s imagination, once people begin to imagine a better life for themselves. It becomes incumbent, therefore, for the West, and for the intellectuals and experts in Iran, of which you speak, to make the case more forcefully, so as to convince the masses that there is indeed a better way. </p>
<p>Waiting for things to work out, or for people to learn their lessons gradually, will not work, especially when the acquisition of nuclear capabilities can easily be used to ensure that the status quo remains unchanged.</p>
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		<title>By: Mohammad Memarian</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/06/24/age-of-ahmadinejad/#comment-268790</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohammad Memarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If a boy pees from a balcony up high on the people below, there surely is reason enough to make him stop peeing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
what if the majority ask him to continue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If a boy pees from a balcony up high on the people below, there surely is reason enough to make him stop peeing.</p></blockquote>
<p>what if the majority ask him to continue?</p>
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		<title>By: Just thinking</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/06/24/age-of-ahmadinejad/#comment-268783</link>
		<dc:creator>Just thinking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a boy pees from a balcony up high on the people below, there surely is reason enough to make him stop peeing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a boy pees from a balcony up high on the people below, there surely is reason enough to make him stop peeing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mohammad Memarian (Iran)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/06/24/age-of-ahmadinejad/#comment-268773</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohammad Memarian (Iran)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth,

in the above post, I consider the whole event from a social point of view. in today Iran, a populist figure can win for the masses don&#039;t address concerns of the intellectuals and the educated.

You are right that four more years (or even a longer period) of suffering can&#039;t  bring about a change in a totalitarian political system. however, our problem right now is that the masses support a populist figure who is the symbole of the regime. after this period, when the age of populism is over, people will no more support irrational decisions of the administration for they take expert bodies seriously. This can help deligitemize the regime or make it change its behavior.

all in all, as long as the irrational decisions of an administration happens to have the support of masses (like in today Iran), we can expect no real change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth,</p>
<p>in the above post, I consider the whole event from a social point of view. in today Iran, a populist figure can win for the masses don&#8217;t address concerns of the intellectuals and the educated.</p>
<p>You are right that four more years (or even a longer period) of suffering can&#8217;t  bring about a change in a totalitarian political system. however, our problem right now is that the masses support a populist figure who is the symbole of the regime. after this period, when the age of populism is over, people will no more support irrational decisions of the administration for they take expert bodies seriously. This can help deligitemize the regime or make it change its behavior.</p>
<p>all in all, as long as the irrational decisions of an administration happens to have the support of masses (like in today Iran), we can expect no real change.</p>
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		<title>By: Analysis: Iran and Information &#171; Scenarios of Political Regime Change in Iran</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/06/24/age-of-ahmadinejad/#comment-268772</link>
		<dc:creator>Analysis: Iran and Information &#171; Scenarios of Political Regime Change in Iran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] they are realistic. Others think the results can not be that far off, and that Ahmadinejad was the winner. In this view, his populist/clientalist policies, nationalistic rethoric and charisma have enabled [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] they are realistic. Others think the results can not be that far off, and that Ahmadinejad was the winner. In this view, his populist/clientalist policies, nationalistic rethoric and charisma have enabled [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth (Israel)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/06/24/age-of-ahmadinejad/#comment-268771</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth (Israel)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read in several articles of sophisticated Iranians this argument, that four more years of Ahmedinijad will really convince the people in Iran that there needs to be a fundamental change in the system. However, as we see, many people think that there needs to be change now, and this, at the end of the day, doesn&#039;t matter, because the regime has the power. Because of the overwhelming repressive power the regime has, with its ideologically-committed military and volunteer forces, which are based on the uneducated and rural masses, they can stifle any dissent.
Therefore, I don&#039;t think that four more years of populist and even fascist policies, will cause a significant change in those forces loyal to the regime, because many of them support the subsidies and defiant stand in foreign policy. I think that only the loss of legitimacy, similar to the one the regime is currently experiencing, but on a larger scale, can make those forces switch sides, or at least stay on the fence. Hence, I think that four more years of inflation, stagnation and international isolation, will only bring suffering on the people in Iran, but will do little to bring change in the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read in several articles of sophisticated Iranians this argument, that four more years of Ahmedinijad will really convince the people in Iran that there needs to be a fundamental change in the system. However, as we see, many people think that there needs to be change now, and this, at the end of the day, doesn&#8217;t matter, because the regime has the power. Because of the overwhelming repressive power the regime has, with its ideologically-committed military and volunteer forces, which are based on the uneducated and rural masses, they can stifle any dissent.<br />
Therefore, I don&#8217;t think that four more years of populist and even fascist policies, will cause a significant change in those forces loyal to the regime, because many of them support the subsidies and defiant stand in foreign policy. I think that only the loss of legitimacy, similar to the one the regime is currently experiencing, but on a larger scale, can make those forces switch sides, or at least stay on the fence. Hence, I think that four more years of inflation, stagnation and international isolation, will only bring suffering on the people in Iran, but will do little to bring change in the system.</p>
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		<title>By: Mohammad Memarian (Iran)</title>
		<link>http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/06/24/age-of-ahmadinejad/#comment-268720</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohammad Memarian (Iran)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Lord,

&lt;blockquote&gt;but there has been another fear. I felt another threat and thats the threat of fascism, you know. Its not very far from Ahmadinejad and thats why I voted and many others also did.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Possibility of facism exists as long as the society is not matured enough to embrace Democracy, full scale. In the above analysis, I mainly consider the process of democratization through which the society practices various models and gives a try to different practices until it comes to realize modern democracy.
From this point of view, experiencing populism (fully embodied in Ahmadinejad), however costly, is an inevitable part of the process.
Along the path toward a democratic system, we had to experience this as well. and this is our turn, or maybe our chance.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Also many tried to avoid populism; you know avoiding a threat (at any expense) is better than the “let it be” point of view, I believe.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
If there were any options to aviod it forever, I would be for it for sure. However, if this is set to happen, let it happen once and forever. Let the people suffer enough to come to understand the dangers of populism and put it aside for the rest of their lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Lord,</p>
<blockquote><p>but there has been another fear. I felt another threat and thats the threat of fascism, you know. Its not very far from Ahmadinejad and thats why I voted and many others also did.</p></blockquote>
<p>Possibility of facism exists as long as the society is not matured enough to embrace Democracy, full scale. In the above analysis, I mainly consider the process of democratization through which the society practices various models and gives a try to different practices until it comes to realize modern democracy.<br />
From this point of view, experiencing populism (fully embodied in Ahmadinejad), however costly, is an inevitable part of the process.<br />
Along the path toward a democratic system, we had to experience this as well. and this is our turn, or maybe our chance.</p>
<blockquote><p>Also many tried to avoid populism; you know avoiding a threat (at any expense) is better than the “let it be” point of view, I believe.</p></blockquote>
<p>If there were any options to aviod it forever, I would be for it for sure. However, if this is set to happen, let it happen once and forever. Let the people suffer enough to come to understand the dangers of populism and put it aside for the rest of their lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Lord Kavi (Iran)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lord Kavi (Iran)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“when your boy is peeing, don’t stop him. Let him complete his task.”
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Dear Mohammad,

Thats true, but there has been another fear. I felt another threat and thats the threat of fascism, you know. Its not very far from Ahmadinejad and thats why I voted and many others also did.

Also many tried to avoid populism; you know avoiding a threat (at any expense) is better than the &quot;let it be&quot; point of view, I believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“when your boy is peeing, don’t stop him. Let him complete his task.”
</p></blockquote>
<p>Dear Mohammad,</p>
<p>Thats true, but there has been another fear. I felt another threat and thats the threat of fascism, you know. Its not very far from Ahmadinejad and thats why I voted and many others also did.</p>
<p>Also many tried to avoid populism; you know avoiding a threat (at any expense) is better than the &#8220;let it be&#8221; point of view, I believe.</p>
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