Comments on: Israel ‘had no choice,’ but Hamas was ‘brutal’: Always portraying Hamas as the bad guys http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/08/16/israel-%e2%80%98had-no-choice%e2%80%99-but-hamas-was-%e2%80%98brutal%e2%80%99-always-portraying-hamas-as-the-bad-guys/ Thinking Ahead Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:46:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: William Daroff http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/08/16/israel-%e2%80%98had-no-choice%e2%80%99-but-hamas-was-%e2%80%98brutal%e2%80%99-always-portraying-hamas-as-the-bad-guys/#comment-23569 William Daroff Wed, 19 Aug 2009 03:38:29 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/?p=4925#comment-23569 Dear Orly, Thank you for your message, your explanation, and your warmth. I look forward to meeting you in DC this fall as well! No need for an apology - but while we are extending them, I'm sorry if I misinterpreted your article & your intentions. Best, William Dear Orly,
Thank you for your message, your explanation, and your warmth. I look forward to meeting you in DC this fall as well! No need for an apology – but while we are extending them, I’m sorry if I misinterpreted your article & your intentions.
Best,
William

]]> By: Orly Halpern http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/08/16/israel-%e2%80%98had-no-choice%e2%80%99-but-hamas-was-%e2%80%98brutal%e2%80%99-always-portraying-hamas-as-the-bad-guys/#comment-23568 Orly Halpern Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:07:44 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/?p=4925#comment-23568 I'm thrilled that my analysis about Hamas and the Gaza government's weekend operation against the Warriors of G-d sparked a dialogue (after a very heated debate) between you both, William and Esra'a. And if I may add, at the risk of causing you to get angry William, it's that same willingness for dialogue that I hope you will find yourself open to when it comes to your enemies - such as people who support and are politically active in Hamas. The movement has done terrible terrible terrible things against Israelis, making it so hard to even consider dialogue. I know that. I live in Jerusalem and I used to take buses when they were blowing up. But such dialogue helps people get over the idea that the other has 'horns,' as you say. If you ever want to discuss this subject with me, and I understand how difficult that is, I'd be honored to share with you my knowledge from reporting here. And you can make your own judgments based on the information I share with you. I'll be in DC in late October. All the best -- Orly (P.S. And I apologize if I sounded as if I were attacking you in my piece. I didn't mean to.) I’m thrilled that my analysis about Hamas and the Gaza government’s weekend operation against the Warriors of G-d sparked a dialogue (after a very heated debate) between you both, William and Esra’a. And if I may add, at the risk of causing you to get angry William, it’s that same willingness for dialogue that I hope you will find yourself open to when it comes to your enemies – such as people who support and are politically active in Hamas.

The movement has done terrible terrible terrible things against Israelis, making it so hard to even consider dialogue. I know that. I live in Jerusalem and I used to take buses when they were blowing up. But such dialogue helps people get over the idea that the other has ‘horns,’ as you say.

If you ever want to discuss this subject with me, and I understand how difficult that is, I’d be honored to share with you my knowledge from reporting here. And you can make your own judgments based on the information I share with you. I’ll be in DC in late October. All the best — Orly

(P.S. And I apologize if I sounded as if I were attacking you in my piece. I didn’t mean to.)

]]> By: William Daroff http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/08/16/israel-%e2%80%98had-no-choice%e2%80%99-but-hamas-was-%e2%80%98brutal%e2%80%99-always-portraying-hamas-as-the-bad-guys/#comment-23567 William Daroff Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:50:52 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/?p=4925#comment-23567 I've met your Ambassador - she is a fine person. I hope you have a sense of humor in person, Esra'a. I'm available for lunch, at this point, on Monday, Nov 23 or Tuesday, Nov 24. Let me know which works best, and we'll hold the date. I’ve met your Ambassador – she is a fine person. I hope you have a sense of humor in person, Esra’a. I’m available for lunch, at this point, on Monday, Nov 23 or Tuesday, Nov 24. Let me know which works best, and we’ll hold the date.

]]> By: Esra'a (Bahrain) http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/08/16/israel-%e2%80%98had-no-choice%e2%80%99-but-hamas-was-%e2%80%98brutal%e2%80%99-always-portraying-hamas-as-the-bad-guys/#comment-23566 Esra'a (Bahrain) Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:44:39 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/?p=4925#comment-23566 I will arrive November 21st and I will be there until the 24th. I will count on meeting you but I hope you at least realize that we don't attack people here based on race or religion, in case you're preparing to lecture me on that. Americans and Jews are around us all the time (we even have a Jewish ambassador serving my country in case you weren't aware) and your claim that we feel they all have "horns" is uninformed and ridiculous. I will arrive November 21st and I will be there until the 24th. I will count on meeting you but I hope you at least realize that we don’t attack people here based on race or religion, in case you’re preparing to lecture me on that. Americans and Jews are around us all the time (we even have a Jewish ambassador serving my country in case you weren’t aware) and your claim that we feel they all have “horns” is uninformed and ridiculous.

]]> By: Esra'a (Bahrain) http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/08/16/israel-%e2%80%98had-no-choice%e2%80%99-but-hamas-was-%e2%80%98brutal%e2%80%99-always-portraying-hamas-as-the-bad-guys/#comment-23565 Esra'a (Bahrain) Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:40:30 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/?p=4925#comment-23565 <blockquote>You’ll see first hand that Jews (and Americans) don’t have horns.</blockquote> Your claim is baseless and irrelevant. I clearly don't have a problem with Jews or Americans. Just because I take issue with how you insult and mistreat others whenever your opinions are criticized, doesn't mean I put all Jews or Americans in the same category, the way you did with us. Stop claiming that everyone else around you is guilty of your own faults which were exposed here.

You’ll see first hand that Jews (and Americans) don’t have horns.

Your claim is baseless and irrelevant. I clearly don’t have a problem with Jews or Americans. Just because I take issue with how you insult and mistreat others whenever your opinions are criticized, doesn’t mean I put all Jews or Americans in the same category, the way you did with us. Stop claiming that everyone else around you is guilty of your own faults which were exposed here.

]]> By: William Daroff http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/08/16/israel-%e2%80%98had-no-choice%e2%80%99-but-hamas-was-%e2%80%98brutal%e2%80%99-always-portraying-hamas-as-the-bad-guys/#comment-23564 William Daroff Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:40:04 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/?p=4925#comment-23564 Esra'a - no games here - I hope you aren't as abrasive and dismissive in person. I'm tied up until Nov 11 - but mostly available thereafter. Send me an email as soon as you know your timing, and I'll buy you lunch along with that beverage. Esra’a – no games here – I hope you aren’t as abrasive and dismissive in person. I’m tied up until Nov 11 – but mostly available thereafter. Send me an email as soon as you know your timing, and I’ll buy you lunch along with that beverage.

]]> By: Esra'a (Bahrain) http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/08/16/israel-%e2%80%98had-no-choice%e2%80%99-but-hamas-was-%e2%80%98brutal%e2%80%99-always-portraying-hamas-as-the-bad-guys/#comment-23563 Esra'a (Bahrain) Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:30:29 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/?p=4925#comment-23563 Thanks very much Elizabeth for your support. Just so you know, William, I will be in Washington in November for an event and I will plan on meeting you to see if you are up to your game and if you are like this in person as well, or just when you're hiding behind a "feeble" Twitter handle. Thanks very much Elizabeth for your support.

Just so you know, William, I will be in Washington in November for an event and I will plan on meeting you to see if you are up to your game and if you are like this in person as well, or just when you’re hiding behind a “feeble” Twitter handle.

]]> By: William Daroff http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/08/16/israel-%e2%80%98had-no-choice%e2%80%99-but-hamas-was-%e2%80%98brutal%e2%80%99-always-portraying-hamas-as-the-bad-guys/#comment-23562 William Daroff Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:28:43 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/?p=4925#comment-23562 Esra'a - when you come to DC, I'll be happy to buy you a beverage too. You'll see first hand that Jews (and Americans) don't have horns. Esra’a – when you come to DC, I’ll be happy to buy you a beverage too. You’ll see first hand that Jews (and Americans) don’t have horns.

]]> By: Elizabeth (Israel) http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/08/16/israel-%e2%80%98had-no-choice%e2%80%99-but-hamas-was-%e2%80%98brutal%e2%80%99-always-portraying-hamas-as-the-bad-guys/#comment-23561 Elizabeth (Israel) Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:26:04 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/?p=4925#comment-23561 William Daroff, All the people working on this site are volunteers, no reason to attack them and say that they're not influential when they're just trying to make a positive impact. I suggest that you look at the press section to see that they were covered by CNN, BBC, WaPo, and more. As for twitter, despite the organization not even being Jewish, JTA included them in their list of influential twitterers. William Daroff,

All the people working on this site are volunteers, no reason to attack them and say that they’re not influential when they’re just trying to make a positive impact. I suggest that you look at the press section to see that they were covered by CNN, BBC, WaPo, and more. As for twitter, despite the organization not even being Jewish, JTA included them in their list of influential twitterers.

]]> By: Esra'a (Bahrain) http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/08/16/israel-%e2%80%98had-no-choice%e2%80%99-but-hamas-was-%e2%80%98brutal%e2%80%99-always-portraying-hamas-as-the-bad-guys/#comment-23560 Esra'a (Bahrain) Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:18:37 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/?p=4925#comment-23560 <blockquote>Look - feel free to demonize me.</blockquote> You did a great job doing that yourself, and your final comment was an excellent example of that.

Look – feel free to demonize me.

You did a great job doing that yourself, and your final comment was an excellent example of that.

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