Mohammad: Thank you for your comment and civil rebutal. I am however not convinced by the way you tend to totalise a satus of quo for the IRI or its “reformable” versuion. As you romantically desribed, a secular regime is needed to safeguard your and your parents’ belief before it turns into a more hateful ideology of repression.

Mr. Siegel, I do not beleive your rebutal that the recent rapes and crimes are simply “myth”. All valuable medias inside and outside alike reported these horrible crimes. A rudimentary analysis of Islam’s history reveals that crimes such as rape and torture were the signature tactics of the Muslim invaders. there are many Hadiths and sources in internet proving that. This trend has continued to this day by their (muslim invaders) offsprin in Iran. If you still want to close you eyes and ears then you do not seem neutral.

By the way, who told you that “reactionary Green Movement ” is more reactionary than hardliners?. Was it someone from Ahmadinejad’s Information Ministery or an allied comrade? I want the end of whole IRI, but let me tell you , in the terms of comparaisn, Ahmadinejad and company will undoubtly screw things up more in terms of economy, repression, and social justice. I wonder if you really love Iran and Iranian values rather than an anti-Iranian regime which is now occupying Iran.

Also, let me tell you that you are not alone in your “love” for Iran, but the “patriotical” apologists of this regime with different calibres, have the same buzz words in the mouths. These pseudo-intellectual supporters of this regime have formed IRI lobby groups and institutions in the West; needless to say that thanks to petro-dollars, activies of these apologists are on the increase.

As I told before, the IRI’s dying process is essentially based on a deterministic rule of history which has much in common with bio / social evolution. This is not a conspiracy of “imperialists, Zionists…”, but simply incorporated in the process of evolution because the IRI is imcompatible to democracy. This a simple law of Dialectic, if you happen to beleive in.

Our pseudo-intellectuals do not give a hoot for democravy and secularism while see any change under the IRI. They do not explain a relevance to IRI capacity of reformt. Some others, derived from a toudehist culture of complaisance, brag about the notion of socialism, but since three deacdes do not taste the “opiate” of people in Iran. These are the main two pseudo-intellectual categories, let alone Islamist residents, exported journalists, and turncoats alone.

Since the site accepts my French articles, I am going to put one of my French articles tackling these problems. I will put also a translation of it for Mohammad and other English readers.

Thank you both of you for reading and taking part in this discussion.

You fabricate falsifications about the nature of the Iranian opposition to the IRI…

You probably know my impression about the protests in Iran. Masses in today Iran are not pro IRI, true. They, however, are not against it. As Lord Kavi once said, they don’t know what they need or should want. The only thing they know is that there should be a change.

I can’t gather hard evidences to prove my impression. It’s just what I see around, and certainly not merely within a close circle of relatives and friends (who are mostly pro IRI). You, however, equally fail to bring smoking gun to maintain your position. The truth will reveal itself one day.

Your heroes were the gang of 2. Khordad…

Reformist movement was a good step forward. But some extremists who failed to understand complexity of a gradual socio-political change took over the movement and made it fail.

Iranians are not mature enough to embrace a democracy. Essential socio-cultural foundations of a democracy need be established before apparent regime change. As I remember, it was Shapour Bakhtiar, last premiere of Shah, who told revolutionaries: “you are trying to uproot dictatorship of Shah. But I’m telling you, dictatorship of clergies will be a hundred times bloodier.” To be honest, I’m afraid if another revolution would bring about just a similar regime (maybe a secular one, but certainly as dictatorial as the existing version) within a decade or so.

And I think there could be a road map to gradually achieve real change. As far as I know and understand, first of all, the economy should be revitalized, and it’s certainly possible…

Just a final word:

My father is a devout Muslim, so is my mother. They still hesitate to listen to music, for they find it corrupting the soul. And you know what this means.

You know my dreamland?

I dream of a time during which my parents can go to beach, spend sometime listening to the harmony played by waves, enjoy sunrise and sunset (you know how beautiful it is in Shomal, northern parts of Iran), offer their prayers on time, and be safe in their privacy there. And meanwhile, the young who want to dance or have a romantic session there can be free to do so in their own privacy, without intervention. I expect my father to stay away and let the young live their life. And also I expect those youngsters to let my parents have their own joy. You got what I mean?

Let’s me tell you my impression from the day one I saw your materials in this site. You fabricate falsifications about the nature of the Iranian opposition to the IRI. Your heroes were the gang of 2. Khordad and now you stick on (Green Mmovement) which is another pro-sharia and pro-Velayat-e- Faghih and merely against the hard liners. You attempt in vain to portray the IRI as a representative of Iranian people and your Green Movement jumps on your waggon as a sample of the opposition forces inside Iran. If this is the case then Iranian as a nation are stuck in desperate backwardness and true democracy could be generations away. But we saw quite different behaviour in the last popular protests.

People are not risking their lives so they can keep a better version of Islamic Regime promised by Mousavi. They want the freedom we all see in India, South Africa, and even Turkey, to believe, to choose, to wear, to talk in what they want. They want to have a say in who should set the law of their country. They want a state free of religion; no more persecuting Bahaiis, no more thuggish Morality Police, no more unelected Velayat-e-Faghih, and no more any sort of religious or ideological dictatorship. No one should be above the law, no one should be privileged for being a Sayed, a Mullah, a Muslim, and yes a man vs. woman. If you believe in a democratic and secular republic, join your people and the future of your children, otherwise remain as a “fake” Muslim to fanatics like Samimaneh, whereas as a “pro-IRI” to our people.

I don’t know your background. You sound articulated intelligent and have knowledge. I hope you find yourself the courage to separate your religion from your political ideals, no matter how wonderful you believe your Islam is. Have the courage to propagate this principle amongst those around you too, perhaps this will be a good exaple for lost souls like Samimaneh. The future of your nation depends on it. This a friendly advice from someone who has propbably worn off a few more “shirts” than you.

Let’s me tell you my impression from the day one I saw your materials in this site. You fabricate falsifications about the nature of the Iranian opposition to the IRI. Your heroes were the gang of 2. Khordad and now you stick on (Green Mmovement) which is another pro-sharia and pro-Velayat-e- Faghih and merely against the hard liners. You attempt in vain to portray the IRI as a representative of Iranian people and your Green Movement jumps on your waggon as a sample of the opposition forces inside Iran. If this is the case then Iranian as a nation are stuck in desperate backwardness and true democracy could be generations away. But we saw quite different behaviour in the last popular protests.

People are not risking their lives so they can keep a better version of Islamic Regime promised by Mousavi. They want the freedom we all see in India, South Africa, and even Turkey, to believe, to choose, to wear, to talk in what they want. They want to have a say in who should set the law of their country. They want a state free of religion; no more persecuting Bahaiis, no more thuggish Morality Police, no more unelected Velayat-e-Faghih, and no more any sort of religious or ideological dictatorship. No one should be above the law, no one should be privileged for being a Sayed, a Mullah, a Muslim, and yes a man vs. woman. If you believe in a democratic and secular republic, join your people and the future of your children, otherwise remain as a “fake” Muslim to fanatics like Samimaneh, whereas as a “pro-IRI” to our people.

I don’t know your background. You sound articulated intelligent and have knowledge. I hope you find yourself the courage to separate your religion from your political ideals, no matter how wonderful you believe your Islam is. Have the courage to propagate this principle amongst those around you too, perhaps this will be a good exaple for lost souls like Samimaneh. The future of your nation depends on it. This a friendly advice from someone who has propbably worn off a few more “shirts” than you.

Let’s me tell you my impression from the day one I saw your materials in this site. You fabricate falsifications about the nature of the Iranian opposition to the IRI. Your heroes were the gang of 2. Khordad and now you stick on (Green Mmovement) which is another pro-sharia and pro-Velayat-e- Faghih and merely against the hard liners. You attempt in vain to portray the IRI as a representative of Iranian people and your Green Movement jumps on your waggon as a sample of the opposition forces inside Iran. If this is the case then Iranian as a nation are stuck in desperate backwardness and true democracy could be generations away. But we saw quite different behaviour in the last popular protests.

People are not risking their lives so they can keep a better version of Islamic Regime promised by Mousavi. They want the freedom we all see in India, South Africa, and even Turkey, to believe, to choose, to wear, to talk in what they want. They want to have a say in who should set the law of their country. They want a state free of religion; no more persecuting Bahaiis, no more thuggish Morality Police, no more unelected Velayat-e-Faghih, and no more any sort of religious or ideological dictatorship. No one should be above the law, no one should be privileged for being a Sayed, a Mullah, a Muslim, and yes a man vs. woman. If you believe in a democratic and secular republic, join your people and the future of your children, otherwise remain as a “fake” Muslim to fanatics like Samimaneh, whereas as a “pro-IRI” to our people.

I don’t know your background. You sound articulated intelligent and have knowledge. I hope you find yourself the courage to separate your religion from your political ideals, no matter how wonderful you believe your Islam is. Have the courage to propagate this principle amongst those around you too, perhaps this will be a good exaple for lost souls like Samimaneh. The future of your nation depends on it. This a friendly advice from someone who has propbably worn off a few more “shirts” than you.