Comments on: The Manufacturing of Muslim Terrorists http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/12/01/the-manufacturing-of-muslim-terrorists/ Thinking Ahead Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:46:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ramzy http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/12/01/the-manufacturing-of-muslim-terrorists/#comment-24483 Ramzy Mon, 07 Dec 2009 00:46:34 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/?p=5962#comment-24483 Ploni Almoni .... The siege on one million and half people in Gaza and that has been going on since more than 3 years .. isnt that a daily atrocities..... The imprisonment of 11 thousand Palestinians in the Israeli jails and the agony and ill treetement they receive inside there .. isnt that a daily atrocity.... The separation wall in the west bank that is swallowing Palestinian-owned lands with every curve it makes and preventing the Palestinian farmers from reaching to their own lands that happened to be on the other side of the wall ... isnt that a daily atrocity..... do you want more? Atrocities doesnt always have to be a murder which the Israeli forces have pleasurably done to the Palestinians civilians in so many occasions and in large numbers.. the last war on Gaza bear witness to that !! maybe u didnt hear about that too ! I doubt u know the meaning of the word atrocity ... Here is the dictionary definition of the word .. I looked it up for you " An appalling or atrocious act, situation, or object, especially an act of unusual or illegal cruelty inflicted by an armed force on civilians or prisoners" is nt that very applicable to what the Israeli forces do to the Palestinian civilians ... I think you dont want to hear the whole truth ... and u favor to watch and see the truth that u like to see and watch whatever ur news sources are ... go on with that .. I am sure .. They please your racist and full of hate nature. I need not explain further to you ... .. some people like being blind ! Ploni Almoni …. The siege on one million and half people in Gaza and that has been going on since more than 3 years .. isnt that a daily atrocities….. The imprisonment of 11 thousand Palestinians in the Israeli jails and the agony and ill treetement they receive inside there .. isnt that a daily atrocity…. The separation wall in the west bank that is swallowing Palestinian-owned lands with every curve it makes and preventing the Palestinian farmers from reaching to their own lands that happened to be on the other side of the wall … isnt that a daily atrocity….. do you want more? Atrocities doesnt always have to be a murder which the Israeli forces have pleasurably done to the Palestinians civilians in so many occasions and in large numbers.. the last war on Gaza bear witness to that !! maybe u didnt hear about that too !

I doubt u know the meaning of the word atrocity … Here is the dictionary definition of the word .. I looked it up for you ” An appalling or atrocious act, situation, or object, especially an act of unusual or illegal cruelty inflicted by an armed force on civilians or prisoners” is nt that very applicable to what the Israeli forces do to the Palestinian civilians …

I think you dont want to hear the whole truth … and u favor to watch and see the truth that u like to see and watch whatever ur news sources are … go on with that .. I am sure .. They please your racist and full of hate nature.

I need not explain further to you … .. some people like being blind !

]]> By: Ploni Almoni http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/12/01/the-manufacturing-of-muslim-terrorists/#comment-24482 Ploni Almoni Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:01:40 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/?p=5962#comment-24482 Daily atrocities against Palestinians? Please provide detailed objective proof (e.g. non-Arab sources,and no Western sources based on Arab stringers) of 60 atrocities over the last 60 days, or failing that, even 10, or even 1 ... Daily atrocities against Palestinians?
Please provide detailed objective proof (e.g. non-Arab sources,and no Western sources based on Arab stringers) of 60 atrocities over the last 60 days, or failing that, even 10, or even 1 …

]]> By: Dietrich http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/12/01/the-manufacturing-of-muslim-terrorists/#comment-24481 Dietrich Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:01:59 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/?p=5962#comment-24481 Oh yeah, the good old america bashing again... But I totally agree with your last 5 points: 1. To enlighten the people about the Muslim extremists and their evil. - But, why isn't it done yet? No TV/Newspapers? What happens in schools,universities and mosques? 2. To improve the people’s living conditions so they don’t fall easy victims to the extreme groups. - Why is the Gaza-Strip and the Westbank not a mediterranean Singapore, despite all the billions of Euros the palestinians got over the years? We even fund your garbage trucks. 3. To extend bonds of friendship and fraternity among the peoples of the world to get to know each other and to stop fearing each other. - Why do palestinian school textbocks still sow hatred? 4. To establish peace and solve the conflicts in the disputed areas specially Palestine. - Why is there no compromise? Just maximum claims? 5. To democratize the Arab ruling regimes from within by finding clean-handed moderate qualified personages to replace the current corrupt ruling elites by means of disinterested and democratic elections - The Eastern Block did it, so you could study an example... Good Luck Oh yeah, the good old america bashing again…

But I totally agree with your last 5 points:

1. To enlighten the people about the Muslim extremists and their evil.
- But, why isn’t it done yet? No TV/Newspapers? What happens in schools,universities and mosques?

2. To improve the people’s living conditions so they don’t fall easy victims to the extreme groups.
- Why is the Gaza-Strip and the Westbank not a mediterranean Singapore, despite all the billions of Euros the palestinians got over the years?
We even fund your garbage trucks.

3. To extend bonds of friendship and fraternity among the peoples of the world to get to know each other and to stop fearing each other.
- Why do palestinian school textbocks still sow hatred?

4. To establish peace and solve the conflicts in the disputed areas specially Palestine.
- Why is there no compromise? Just maximum claims?

5. To democratize the Arab ruling regimes from within by finding clean-handed moderate qualified personages to replace the current corrupt ruling elites by means of disinterested and democratic elections
- The Eastern Block did it, so you could study an example…

Good Luck

]]> By: Jon http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/12/01/the-manufacturing-of-muslim-terrorists/#comment-24480 Jon Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:44:11 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/?p=5962#comment-24480 It's reasonable to assume that any high-skill intelligence agency like Mossad operates wherever their government says to do so. I didn't know about the Israeli training of Blackwater mercenaries but I believe it. Killing civilians is terrorism, and the U.S. has done plenty of that, but it is not behind every instance of terrorism in the mideast in my mind. It’s reasonable to assume that any high-skill intelligence agency like Mossad operates wherever their government says to do so. I didn’t know about the Israeli training of Blackwater mercenaries but I believe it.

Killing civilians is terrorism, and the U.S. has done plenty of that, but it is not behind every instance of terrorism in the mideast in my mind.

]]> By: Sami, the beduin. http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/12/01/the-manufacturing-of-muslim-terrorists/#comment-24479 Sami, the beduin. Fri, 04 Dec 2009 12:43:03 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/?p=5962#comment-24479 Jon, didnt you hear that the Mossad is roaming the whole of Iraq now? Havent you heard that the Israel military officer are training the mercenary of Blackwater in Afghanistan? Didnt you hear of the American strategy of "creative anarchy" ??? What is that other than devastating the region with bloodshed? What is that other than terrorism ??? Jon,

didnt you hear that the Mossad is roaming the whole of Iraq now? Havent you heard that the Israel military officer are training the mercenary of Blackwater in Afghanistan? Didnt you hear of the American strategy of “creative anarchy” ??? What is that other than devastating the region with bloodshed? What is that other than terrorism ???

]]> By: Jon http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/12/01/the-manufacturing-of-muslim-terrorists/#comment-24478 Jon Fri, 04 Dec 2009 07:57:16 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/?p=5962#comment-24478 This is a fascinating and well-researched article. Here in the U.S.A. it's hard to find such a cogent analysis. We have had to deal with the "They hate our freedoms" silliness from the right wing for far too long. Sami wrote: "1. The terrorists are not the Muslims, the Terrorists are those who who occupy our land and plunder our resources and all what the muslims do is retaliation for the zionist and American aggression. 2. The terrorist attacks done against the different muslim sects in the markets and the streets are done by the CIA an the Mussad agents to give a bad idea about the true muslim freedom-fighters who dont do such attacks at all but they fight the devil." I've agreed with much of what you've written before on this site, but this seems wrong to me. Most of the terror attacks going off in Iraq and Pakistan, where they seem to be most common are set off by different groups of terrorists against other Muslims. It is totally against U.S. interests to further destabilize Iraq and Pakistan, so why would the CIA try to do that? This is a fascinating and well-researched article. Here in the U.S.A. it’s hard to find such a cogent analysis. We have had to deal with the “They hate our freedoms” silliness from the right wing for far too long.

Sami wrote: “1. The terrorists are not the Muslims, the Terrorists are those who who occupy our land and plunder our resources and all what the muslims do is retaliation for the zionist and American aggression.

2. The terrorist attacks done against the different muslim sects in the markets and the streets are done by the CIA an the Mussad agents to give a bad idea about the true muslim freedom-fighters who dont do such attacks at all but they fight the devil.”

I’ve agreed with much of what you’ve written before on this site, but this seems wrong to me. Most of the terror attacks going off in Iraq and Pakistan, where they seem to be most common are set off by different groups of terrorists against other Muslims. It is totally against U.S. interests to further destabilize Iraq and Pakistan, so why would the CIA try to do that?

]]> By: HANI ERAIF http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/12/01/the-manufacturing-of-muslim-terrorists/#comment-24477 HANI ERAIF Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:06:39 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/?p=5962#comment-24477 Mr. Ramzi am intrested in ur article , i like it , have analysis in depth no body can understand case as palestinian live the current circumstances in palestinians territories no body can understand our detailed life obstecales we considered palestinians as " stateless " entire refugees and others outside countries does not have any civil rights espepcially in arab countries . keep following up ur study. greetings from Gaza Palestinian territories. Mr. Ramzi
am intrested in ur article , i like it , have analysis in depth
no body can understand case as palestinian live the current circumstances in palestinians territories
no body can understand our detailed life obstecales
we considered palestinians as ” stateless ” entire refugees and others outside countries does not have any civil rights espepcially in arab countries .
keep following up ur study.
greetings from Gaza Palestinian territories.

]]> By: Michael W. http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/12/01/the-manufacturing-of-muslim-terrorists/#comment-24476 Michael W. Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:12:12 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/?p=5962#comment-24476 Sami, The state of Israel has recognized the existence and put in jail many Jewish terrorists attempting to murder or have murdered Palestinians. But I don't see why you are blindingly defending Muslims that have hurt other Muslims. I saw a report on Al Jazeera English earlier this year about a group of Palestinians refugees kicked out of their homes in Iraq by Shiite militants and left stranded on the Syria-Iraq border. Instead of trying to help them by defending them from Iraqi secretarian violence, you are blaming the ol' CIA and Mossad. Why face issues plaguing those you wish to protect when you can just blame everything on the West? You are following the old path of nationalism, with a hint of fascism and anti-minority sentiments. Actually, I suggest you read about <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism" rel="nofollow">fascism </a>and compare it with your comment. Sami,

The state of Israel has recognized the existence and put in jail many Jewish terrorists attempting to murder or have murdered Palestinians. But I don’t see why you are blindingly defending Muslims that have hurt other Muslims.

I saw a report on Al Jazeera English earlier this year about a group of Palestinians refugees kicked out of their homes in Iraq by Shiite militants and left stranded on the Syria-Iraq border. Instead of trying to help them by defending them from Iraqi secretarian violence, you are blaming the ol’ CIA and Mossad. Why face issues plaguing those you wish to protect when you can just blame everything on the West?

You are following the old path of nationalism, with a hint of fascism and anti-minority sentiments. Actually, I suggest you read about fascism and compare it with your comment.

]]> By: mike http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/12/01/the-manufacturing-of-muslim-terrorists/#comment-24475 mike Wed, 02 Dec 2009 19:17:10 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/?p=5962#comment-24475 Ramzy, I enjoyed your article very much but you must not leave any room for ambiguity when you talk about Israeli occupation. I believe that you support a 2-state solution and do not, like Mr. Ahmedinajad, wish that Israel is "erased from history" but when he, bin laden or the PLO pre-1967 talk of liberation they mean the entire region of historic Palestine. Many people deliberately exploit this ambiguity in order to cloud and confuse the already very complex problem that exists in the region. That's why it's so important to choose your words carefully! Ramzy, I enjoyed your article very much but you must not leave any room for ambiguity when you talk about Israeli occupation. I believe that you support a 2-state solution and do not, like Mr. Ahmedinajad, wish that Israel is “erased from history” but when he, bin laden or the PLO pre-1967 talk of liberation they mean the entire region of historic Palestine. Many people deliberately exploit this ambiguity in order to cloud and confuse the already very complex problem that exists in the region. That’s why it’s so important to choose your words carefully!

]]> By: Sami, the beduin. http://www.mideastyouth.com/2009/12/01/the-manufacturing-of-muslim-terrorists/#comment-24474 Sami, the beduin. Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:54:56 +0000 http://www.mideastyouth.com/?p=5962#comment-24474 Excellent Analysis Mr. Baroud !!! 1. The terrorists are not the Muslims, the Terrorists are those who who occupy our land and plunder our resources and all what the muslims do is retaliation for the zionist and American aggression. 2. The terrorist attacks done against the different muslim sects in the markets and the streets are done by the CIA an the Mussad agents to give a bad idea about the true muslim freedom-fighters who dont do such attacks at all but they fight the devil. 3. You will never be able to democratize the arab regimes unless you first clean the area from the zionists and the Americans who support these puppets of collaborators. 4. No respect for the weak and the west will look you down as long as you are begging for peace... peace can never be given but only taken and by force, the weak cant make peace, anyway. Sami, the bedouin. Excellent Analysis Mr. Baroud !!!

1. The terrorists are not the Muslims, the Terrorists are those who who occupy our land and plunder our resources and all what the muslims do is retaliation for the zionist and American aggression.

2. The terrorist attacks done against the different muslim sects in the markets and the streets are done by the CIA an the Mussad agents to give a bad idea about the true muslim freedom-fighters who dont do such attacks at all but they fight the devil.

3. You will never be able to democratize the arab regimes unless you first clean the area from the zionists and the Americans who support these puppets of collaborators.

4. No respect for the weak and the west will look you down as long as you are begging for peace… peace can never be given but only taken and by force, the weak cant make peace, anyway.

Sami, the bedouin.

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